Usama bin Laden interview

Sultan

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Interview on Friday, 28 September 2001 with Urdu magazine Ummat, Bin Laden said: "I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle..."

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Rainsford

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Jeez, what's the world coming to when even terrorist leaders are fluent in political non-statements? Read what he said again. He "tries his best" to avoid lying. That does not mean he doesn't lie, he could be lying in that very sentence and "I try my best to avoid telling a lie" would still be true. As for attacks on innocent people, it is a common theme for terrorists to consider civilians in their target groups anything but innocent. I doubt Osama thinks of innocent people the same way we do, in his mind, everyone who died on 9/11 was the enemy.

Now none of that means that Osama WAS involved in 9/11, but his double-speak statement suggesting his wasn't isn't exactly what I'd call a good starting point for a counterargument.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
Jeez, what's the world coming to when even terrorist leaders are fluent in political non-statements? Read what he said again. He "tries his best" to avoid lying. That does not mean he doesn't lie, he could be lying in that very sentence and "I try my best to avoid telling a lie" would still be true. As for attacks on innocent people, it is a common theme for terrorists to consider civilians in their target groups anything but innocent. I doubt Osama thinks of innocent people the same way we do, in his mind, everyone who died on 9/11 was the enemy.

Now none of that means that Osama WAS involved in 9/11, but his double-speak statement suggesting his wasn't isn't exactly what I'd call a good starting point for a counterargument.

wow, either he's really brilliant to be double-speaking or too stupid to realize he is. Which is it?

 

realsup

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Interview on Friday, 28 September 2001 with Urdu magazine Ummat, Bin Laden said: "I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle..."

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Another lie and deception by Sultan.

Muslims always do this doublespeak.

Here is the truth about how muslims get away with in there mind of killing women and children.

On that basis, and in compliance with Allah's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah."


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Sultan

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Originally posted by: realsup
Originally posted by: Sultan
Interview on Friday, 28 September 2001 with Urdu magazine Ummat, Bin Laden said: "I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle..."

google for more info

Another lie and deception by Sultan.

Muslims always do this doublespeak.

Here is the truth about how muslims get away with in there mind of killing women and children.

On that basis, and in compliance with Allah's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah."


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Atleast when posting that, you should include the whole document, rather than pieces of it.

The whole document is:

23 February 1998

Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin
Ayman al-Zawahiri, amir of the Jihad Group in Egypt
Abu-Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, Egyptian Islamic Group
Shaykh Mir Hamzah, secretary of the Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan
Fazlur Rahman, amir of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh


Praise be to Allah, who revealed the Book, controls the clouds, defeats factionalism, and says in His Book: "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)"; and peace be upon our Prophet, Muhammad Bin-'Abdallah, who said: I have been sent with the sword between my hands to ensure that no one but Allah is worshipped, Allah who put my livelihood under the shadow of my spear and who inflicts humiliation and scorn on those who disobey my orders.

The Arabian Peninsula has never -- since Allah made it flat, created its desert, and encircled it with seas -- been stormed by any forces like the crusader armies spreading in it like locusts, eating its riches and wiping out its plantations. All this is happening at a time in which nations are attacking Muslims like people fighting over a plate of food. In the light of the grave situation and the lack of support, we and you are obliged to discuss current events, and we should all agree on how to settle the matter.

No one argues today about three facts that are known to everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:

First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.

If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless.

Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.

So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.

Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.

All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on Allah, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al-Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said: "As for the fighting to repulse [an enemy], it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed [by the ulema]. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life."


On that basis, and in compliance with Allah's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:

The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah."

This is in addition to the words of Almighty Allah: "And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? -- women and children, whose cry is: 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'"

We -- with Allah's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in Allah and wishes to be rewarded to comply with Allah's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson.

Almighty Allah said: "O ye who believe, give your response to Allah and His Apostle, when He calleth you to that which will give you life. And know that Allah cometh between a man and his heart, and that it is He to whom ye shall all be gathered."

Almighty Allah also says: "O ye who believe, what is the matter with you, that when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling so heavily to the earth! Do ye prefer the life of this world to the hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things."

Almighty Allah also says: "So lose no heart, nor fall into despair. For ye must gain mastery if ye are true in faith."
 

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Here is my Fatwa I will make it so Muslims can accpet it.

Oh mulsims came ot the sacred land of America. Until they leave oh by a fake man in the sky the muslims civilian and military will be killed.

There now all deaths of muslims by Americans are ok.
 

alchemize

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106. Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.




Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

The Prophet said, "War is deceit."



Chapter 25 : FORBIDDANCE OF TELLING A LIE AND THE CASES IN WHICH TELLING OF LIE IS PERMISSIBLE
Book 32, Number 6303:

Humaid b. 'Abd al-Rahman b. 'Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of 'Uqba b. Abu Mu'ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good. Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them).
 

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Interview on Friday, 28 September 2001 with Urdu magazine Ummat, Bin Laden said: "I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle..."

google for more info

Oh cut the crap. he did it. Get over it. He and many other Muslims have proved time and again women and children are fair game. And not just infidels either. He's killed plenty of Muslims.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Sultan
Interview on Friday, 28 September 2001 with Urdu magazine Ummat, Bin Laden said: "I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle..."

google for more info

Oh cut the crap. he did it. Get over it. He and many other Muslims have proved time and again women and children are fair game. And not just infidels either. He's killed plenty of Muslims.

uh... no. thats just made up bull crap. And the point is, he denied it. Up to the invasion of Afghanistan, and no PROOF was given that he did it.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: alchemize
106. Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.




Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

The Prophet said, "War is deceit."



Chapter 25 : FORBIDDANCE OF TELLING A LIE AND THE CASES IN WHICH TELLING OF LIE IS PERMISSIBLE
Book 32, Number 6303:

Humaid b. 'Abd al-Rahman b. 'Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of 'Uqba b. Abu Mu'ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good. Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them).

I would think you being a good muslim and all, would recognize your own scripture and address it.

Either that, or threaten to chop my head off.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: alchemize
106. Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.




Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

The Prophet said, "War is deceit."



Chapter 25 : FORBIDDANCE OF TELLING A LIE AND THE CASES IN WHICH TELLING OF LIE IS PERMISSIBLE
Book 32, Number 6303:

Humaid b. 'Abd al-Rahman b. 'Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of 'Uqba b. Abu Mu'ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good. Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them).

I would think you being a good muslim and all, would recognize your own scripture and address it.

Either that, or threaten to chop my head off.

1. Thats not the scripture. The Scripture is the Quran. The above is not from the Quran. Two cheers for your lack of knowledge or the lack of finding the right references.

2. You are unaware of the context. The context is similar to the one regarding a husband and a wife, one can lie in a battle to bring out reconciliation to the parties involved.
 

raildogg

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Was this the same loveable, huggable, adorable Osama that in 1998 called upon the Islamic world to rise up against the Infidels? Wasn't he the same charismatic, almost Saladin like figure that praised Atta for his role?

I am lost, help lead the way for me, Sultan. You and Osama are the only ones that can guide me.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Was this the same loveable, huggable, adorable Osama that in 1998 called upon the Islamic world to rise up against the Infidels? Wasn't he the same charismatic, almost Saladin like figure that praised Atta for his role?

I am lost, help lead the way for me, Sultan. You and Osama are the only ones that can guide me.

Ok I will help you. No problem at all bub.
But first you have to refer to the above posts for what he said in 1998 and need to point me to the reference source where he praised Atta for his role so that I can know what you are talking about.
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: alchemize
106. Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.




Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

The Prophet said, "War is deceit."



Chapter 25 : FORBIDDANCE OF TELLING A LIE AND THE CASES IN WHICH TELLING OF LIE IS PERMISSIBLE
Book 32, Number 6303:

Humaid b. 'Abd al-Rahman b. 'Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of 'Uqba b. Abu Mu'ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good. Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them).

I would think you being a good muslim and all, would recognize your own scripture and address it.

Either that, or threaten to chop my head off.

1. Thats not the scripture. The Scripture is the Quran. The above is not from the Quran. Two cheers for your lack of knowledge or the lack of finding the right references.

2. You are unaware of the context. The context is similar to the one regarding a husband and a wife, one can lie in a battle to bring out reconciliation to the parties involved.

Sahih Bukhari is a hadith collection written by Muhammad al-Bukhari. It is the most important hadith collection for Sunnis.


Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the Law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper. (Yusuf Ali translation)

They take this and other Qur'anic verses to require Muslims to follow authentic hadith. However, a small number of "Quran-only" Muslims disagree with this view and interpret these verses differently; they argue that the hadith are of human creation and have no authority.

Looked clear and in context to me. Of course you'd have no problem lying about it anyhow - because you're under compulsion to defend your faith, and you are in battle with infidels.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: alchemize
106. Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.




Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

The Prophet said, "War is deceit."



Chapter 25 : FORBIDDANCE OF TELLING A LIE AND THE CASES IN WHICH TELLING OF LIE IS PERMISSIBLE
Book 32, Number 6303:

Humaid b. 'Abd al-Rahman b. 'Auf reported that his mother Umm Kulthum daughter of 'Uqba b. Abu Mu'ait, and she was one amongst the first emigrants who pledged allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him), as saying that she heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: A liar is not one who tries to bring reconciliation amongst people and speaks good (in order to avert dispute), or he conveys good. Ibn Shihab said he did not hear that exemption was granted in anything what the people speak as lie but in three cases: in battle, for bringing reconciliation amongst persons and the narration of the words of the husband to his wife, and the narration of the words of a wife to her husband (in a twisted form in order to bring reconciliation between them).

I would think you being a good muslim and all, would recognize your own scripture and address it.

Either that, or threaten to chop my head off.

1. Thats not the scripture. The Scripture is the Quran. The above is not from the Quran. Two cheers for your lack of knowledge or the lack of finding the right references.

2. You are unaware of the context. The context is similar to the one regarding a husband and a wife, one can lie in a battle to bring out reconciliation to the parties involved.

Sahih Bukhari is a hadith collection written by Muhammad al-Bukhari. It is the most important hadith collection for Sunnis.


Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the Law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper. (Yusuf Ali translation)

They take this and other Qur'anic verses to require Muslims to follow authentic hadith. However, a small number of "Quran-only" Muslims disagree with this view and interpret these verses differently; they argue that the hadith are of human creation and have no authority.

Looked clear and in context to me. Of course you'd have no problem lying about it anyhow - because you're under compulsion to defend your faith, and you are in battle with infidels.

HAHAHA

A SCRIPTURE is a religious book. The Quran is the scripture for the Muslims. Hadiths are reference source to understand the Quran. As I stated, your original post is NOT from the QURAN.

I hope the EDUCATED person in you realizes the difference. Furthermore, I explained the CONTEXT of the hadith.
 

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Interview on Friday, 28 September 2001 with Urdu magazine Ummat, Bin Laden said: "I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle..."

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Explain this!

 

arsbanned

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Sultan
Interview on Friday, 28 September 2001 with Urdu magazine Ummat, Bin Laden said: "I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle..."

google for more info

Oh cut the crap. he did it. Get over it. He and many other Muslims have proved time and again women and children are fair game. And not just infidels either. He's killed plenty of Muslims.

uh... no. thats just made up bull crap. And the point is, he denied it. Up to the invasion of Afghanistan, and no PROOF was given that he did it.

So this is just all made up bull crap...yeah...whatever.

 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Sultan
Interview on Friday, 28 September 2001 with Urdu magazine Ummat, Bin Laden said: "I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle..."

google for more info

Oh cut the crap. he did it. Get over it. He and many other Muslims have proved time and again women and children are fair game. And not just infidels either. He's killed plenty of Muslims.

uh... no. thats just made up bull crap. And the point is, he denied it. Up to the invasion of Afghanistan, and no PROOF was given that he did it.

So this is just all made up bull crap...yeah...whatever.

For the hard to comprehend simple english, please reread the bolded portion...

Moreover, please again note, that the FBI's Most Wanted List does not include WTC bombings under his credit

"Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world."
 

beyoku

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Sultan
Interview on Friday, 28 September 2001 with Urdu magazine Ummat, Bin Laden said: "I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle..."

google for more info

Oh cut the crap. he did it. Get over it. He and many other Muslims have proved time and again women and children are fair game. And not just infidels either. He's killed plenty of Muslims.

uh... no. thats just made up bull crap. And the point is, he denied it. Up to the invasion of Afghanistan, and no PROOF was given that he did it.

So this is just all made up bull crap...yeah...whatever.


that looks like it could be the real deal but its still doenst look like the real osama. OTOH the FIRST confession video was really really really........fake.
see here
or here

Qatar: ?[The tape is] unlikely to clarify the truth, but rather increase the fog.? ?Al-Sharq newspaper, one of the few newspapers in the region to carry an editorial on the video.
-so true.