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US workers average 3.6% pay increase this year

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A nice solid level for most people. Would be nice to see how it breaks down per area of country and maybe by class. I know that my company didn't help as wages were frozen this year! 🙁 (...just so the execs. could continue their bonus (true!!!) :|

:beer: to those who received bigger raises and made up for cheap @ss companies like mine


NEW YORK - A rebounding economy and improving job market aren't translating into big pay raises for U.S. workers, who'll get an average 3.6 percent increase this year. Some workers, though, might find something extra in their paychecks if their bosses are really pleased with their work.

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Results of a survey released Tuesday by Mercer Human Resource Consulting show the size of the average raise this year is little changed from 2004, when pay hikes averaged 3.5 percent. But the increases are generally helping workers stay ahead of inflation, which has risen at annual rate of 3.1 percent so far this year.

A separate survey issued last month by the Conference Board was in line with Mercer's, finding that salaries are expected to rise an average 3.5 percent.

This is the third straight year that employers are granting raises under the 4 percent-plus level common in the 1990s, but many individual workers are actually doing better because the use of one-time compensation such as bonuses has increased, said Steven Gross, a senior consultant at Mercer who specializes in looking at employee compensation.

"This is not bad news, this is good news." Gross said. "In aggregate, employers are providing more compensation, it's just not directly in base pay."

With employers under pressure to hold down their fixed costs, many are reluctant to increase base pay and are more likely to use bonuses and other one-time rewards. Mercer said 86 percent of its survey respondents reported they used some kind of short-term incentive in 2005.

The survey included nearly 1,350 employers across the country and reflects pay practices for nearly 13 million workers.

Signing bonuses have become increasingly popular as companies try to compensate for lower raises and attract talented employees. Fifty-five percent of survey respondents said they gave out signing bonuses during 2005.

This trend is most apparent in the information technology companies, where 65 percent of the respondents said they offered signing bonuses this year. They were also common in accounting and finance companies, where 46 percent said they granted such bonuses, and in engineering, where 38 percent of respondents gave them.

Spot cash awards were also popular in 2005, with information technology companies again the most likely to use this form of compensation.

Looking ahead to 2006, Mercer found employers were likely to continue using spot rewards and bonuses while the average expected pay raise rate remains constant at 3.6 percent.

Among the five categories Mercer divides employees into, management employees and technical/professional employees on average received a 3.6 percent pay increase in 2005, and are expected to receive the same in 2006. Nonexempt clerical/technician employees, who hold positions such as secretaries and lab technicians, are receiving an average of 3.5 percent raises this year and can expect 3.6 percent next year.

Nonunion hourly employees are seeing average raises of 3.4 percent and are likely to see 3.5 percent increases next year. The pay raise rate for executive employees, on the other hand, is expected to decline from an average 3.9 percent in 2005 to 3.8 percent in 2006.

While the overall pay raise rate will remain constant, the good news for employees is that there appears to be a halt in salary freezes. Dramatically down from 16 percent in 2002, only 2 percent of employers reported salary freezes in 2005. In 2004, five percent of employers reported salary freezes.

Employers providing compensation through stock options declined to 31 percent this year, down from its peak of 37 percent in 2002. The decline is expected to continue with only 1.4 percent of survey respondents considering stock options as compensation for the first time.

Gross said the drop in stock options is the result of changing accounting methods that have made the once free commodity too expensive for companies to continue using.
 
I'm going to predict the lib response:

McDonalds and Wal-Mart are unfairly affecting this! I mean they only raised wages 2 cents! Since everyone's making minimum wage now, this means nothing!
 
Originally posted by: Krk3561
I'm going to predict the lib response:

McDonalds and Wal-Mart are unfairly affecting this! I mean they only raised wages 2 cents! Since everyone's making minimum wage now, this means nothing!

:cookie: for you. I'm considered a "lib" (very fiscially conservative though) and you just crapped all over a good news thread...that I posted! Thanks! :roll:

 
Great news, I'm starting to love all this great economic news. Makes me feel happy Bush's policies are finally starting to work well 🙂
 
Wow, great trickle down. Lets rob the tresury, hand out the cash to the rich via tax cuts, spend $200B+ in Iraq, drive up the deficit and in return for a bankrupt government we can hope for a 0.4% raise over inflation. Save that 0.4% folks, the good times won't last long.
 
So we have a thread about pay increases beating inflation this year and it's completely dominated by people bitching about people that make more than them. The great green eyed monster is always about.
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
Great news, I'm starting to love all this great economic news. Makes me feel happy Bush's policies are finally starting to work well 🙂


It's not great news, just mildly ho hum. You've got 3.1% inflation as well. Take a look at the real wage growth (and not just nominal) over this "recovery" over the last two years or so.
 
Originally posted by: LongTimePCUser
While the "average" pay grew with inflation, CEO compensation grew dramatically.CEO compensation.

In 2004, the average CEO received 240 times more than the compensation earned by the average worker. In 2002, the ratio was 145 to 1.

Compensation for oil and gas execs increased by 109 percent between 2003 and 2004

Does this seem right?
If the American people want to squash corporate execs then they should stop buying products and services from large corporations. Awww, but then you'd have to give up all your gadgets and fancy cars. Can't have that now can we? :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Krk3561
I'm going to predict the lib response:

McDonalds and Wal-Mart are unfairly affecting this! I mean they only raised wages 2 cents! Since everyone's making minimum wage now, this means nothing!
Didn't you get banned? :cookie:



We've been told to budget 3.5% for raises again next year.
 
Originally posted by: drewshin
Originally posted by: ntdz
Great news, I'm starting to love all this great economic news. Makes me feel happy Bush's policies are finally starting to work well 🙂


It's not great news, just mildly ho hum. You've got 3.1% inflation as well. Take a look at the real wage growth (and not just nominal) over this "recovery" over the last two years or so.

.6% real wage growth is bad? Excuse me? Anything positive is good...
 
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: LongTimePCUser
While the "average" pay grew with inflation, CEO compensation grew dramatically.CEO compensation.

In 2004, the average CEO received 240 times more than the compensation earned by the average worker. In 2002, the ratio was 145 to 1.

Compensation for oil and gas execs increased by 109 percent between 2003 and 2004

Does this seem right?
If the American people want to squash corporate execs then they should stop buying products and services from large corporations. Awww, but then you'd have to give up all your gadgets and fancy cars. Can't have that now can we? :roll:


yeah Americans are just so broke.. may have to settle for 42" Plasma for the master instead of 50":roll:
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: LongTimePCUser
While the "average" pay grew with inflation, CEO compensation grew dramatically.CEO compensation.

In 2004, the average CEO received 240 times more than the compensation earned by the average worker. In 2002, the ratio was 145 to 1.

Compensation for oil and gas execs increased by 109 percent between 2003 and 2004

Does this seem right?
If the American people want to squash corporate execs then they should stop buying products and services from large corporations. Awww, but then you'd have to give up all your gadgets and fancy cars. Can't have that now can we? :roll:


yeah Americans are just so broke.. may have to settle for 42" Plasma for the master instead of 50":roll:

Americans aren't broke, but as the commercial says...."I'm in debt up to my eyeballs". Rings true in many parts of America....sadly.

 
They only have themselves to blame... from the biggining to the end.. You know 400B in scholarships go unclaimed each year? Guess a trip to the universities "Financial Aid" Office is easier. No one says you need the maximum mortgage you can afford (although some FA advise it). No one says you need a new Acura as a daily driver..etc etc etc.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
They only have themselves to blame... from the biggining to the end.. You know 400B in scholarships go unclaimed each year? Guess a trip to the universities "Financial Aid" Office is easier. No one says you need the maximum mortgage you can afford (although some FA advise it). No one says you need a new Acura as a daily driver..etc etc etc.

I know! 🙂

:thumbsup:

My solution to the trade deficit...introduce credit cards to the 3rd world and developing countries around the world. They'll buy everything we make and more! :laugh:

 
Originally posted by: Engineer
I know! 🙂

:thumbsup:

My solution to the trade deficit...introduce credit cards to the 3rd world and developing countries around the world. They'll buy everything we make and more! :laugh:

One of the industries the US dominates is banking and all those jobs are white collar and the vast majority are stateside. We already market our CC's over there, all we need to do it get them jobs and they can be wage slaves like the rest of us with all the dollars coming back to the states.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
They only have themselves to blame... from the biggining to the end.. You know 400B in scholarships go unclaimed each year? Guess a trip to the universities "Financial Aid" Office is easier. No one says you need the maximum mortgage you can afford (although some FA advise it). No one says you need a new Acura as a daily driver..etc etc etc.

If you are going to throw out BS numbers at least try something close to believable. 400 billion is crap...

"For example the claim "$6.6 billion in scholarship aid went unclaimed last year" relies on a 1976-1977 study by the National Institute of Work and Learning. The study said that much of an estimated $7 billion available from employer tuition assistance programs goes unclaimed. But these are employer-sponsored programs that apply only to employees or employees' children who are enrolled in eligible programs. They are not general scholarships with wide eligibility."

https://www.campusdoor.com/budget_finance/scholarship_scams.jhtml

Dont bitch about students recieving finacial aid, most of which is in the form of LOANS in order to get an education and provide a better life for themselves and their future families.

Billy
 
Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: Engineer
I know! 🙂

:thumbsup:

My solution to the trade deficit...introduce credit cards to the 3rd world and developing countries around the world. They'll buy everything we make and more! :laugh:

One of the industries the US dominates is banking and all those jobs are white collar and the vast majority are stateside. We already market our CC's over there, all we need to do it get them jobs and they can be wage slaves like the rest of us with all the dollars coming back to the states.

wow thats actually a really good point, never thought of that.
 
Did I say Billion billy I meant Million.. obviously 400 billion would be poposterous.. that's like 1/6th the national budget.
 
million is probably much closer to the truth, albeit that most of those funds are unavailible to the general public and require assaciations with certain organizations to gain access.

I wonder if there are tax advantages for companies to provide scholarships. Do those advantages/incentives disapear because the money goes unclaimed? Or could they intentionally not advertise well inorder not to pay out? These are sincere questions, i am not insinuating anything, just thinking...

Billy
 
I was on a full ride dispite mediocre HS GPA..abeit state school. Yes employees plans.. Pepsi where my dad worked 30 yrs and university where my mom was professor. Reguadless you get the grades and all schools are free from Harvard to San Deigo State. Plus there is something called working. Helps build a resume early too one can parlay into summer internships and eventually full time employment. Some loans I can understand.. medical schools cost over 20-45K a year and obviously you can't work while going though such a rigorous curricula... but all too often I saw this debt and financial aid loans for people who where already into the huge debt mindset at an early age and did'nt need it. Roomates I had would have beer money every night while I worked at a hardware store in the evenings just to to pay the basics. They had no issue with 4-5000 loans every semester. That's some serious debt when you're all done just starting out in life.
 
zebo,

i agree that we are a debtor society and it happens all too often that these habits are passed early to children. I was fortunate enought to get a scholarship that paid for all four years and then some. I know alot of others that were not that lucky. And i do mean lucky. I was fortunate enough to be born with certain ablities that made school incredibly easy for me and getting my scholarship was not the result of hard work but simply being myself. I dont approve of spending Aid money on beer and certainly am not a fan of going into debt for stupid consumer products, those $80 jeans with bleach stains on them drive me crazy. I do think that the loan programs available have opened up doors for far too many people to think that they are bad programs. I just wish parents would teach their kids some financial retraint. Actually i wish high school required some kind of basic accounting and investing class that might help kids see the future more clearly.

Billy
 
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