US wants "limited strike" on North Korea

[Thebobo]

Oh sure its worth the death of hundreds of thousands of South koreans to appease the limp dicked warhawks. How about we just slither out of SK, we're good at that.

 

[Puffnstuff]

If Republicans think starting a war will save them in November, they are in for a rough surprise.

The sad truth is that in recent history it works each and every time.

 

[theeedude]

The sad truth is that in recent history it works each and every time.

It won't work this time, society is too politically divided. Trump starting a war will divide it further, not unite it.

 

[pauldun170]

Oh sure its worth the death of hundreds of thousands of South koreans for to appease the limp dicked warhawks. How about we just slither out of SK, we're good at that.

Look at the brightside
If conflict escalates and we end up fighting in Korea again, they might push out revised camo.
We've been stuck with the same camo patterns for tactical table clothes, tactical baseball caps, tactical bikinis and tactical bluetooth headsets for a few years now. Tired of looking at all the sand colored crap and the universal camo pattern does't look nice on our tactical bathroom tiles.

I have inlaws who are Korean, therefore I am an expert on Korea because I have token Koreans around for the holidays.
South Koreans would gladly sacrifice themselves for us to have more shopping choices as we spend our away our new tax savings.

 

[realibrad]

Fallout via irradiated dirt (most of the severe stuff) moves with the wind, we'd have more to explain to Hawaii/CA than to China. I'd expect any potential military action timing to take place with the Pacific taking the brunt of that fallout rather than it going north/south/west.

Are you sure about that. From what I see, it goes to Japan, or goes up to China.

https://www.windfinder.com/#5/37.0000/127.5000

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[brandonbull]

I bet the US has wanted a limited strike on N.K. since the 1950's and has had plans in place since then.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Are you sure about that.

Not at all, I'm an IT guy/armchair general (apparently).

Nukes are basically a bad time for everyone involved, but so are millions of pounds of conventional warheads.

 

[realibrad]

Not at all, I'm an IT guy/armchair general (apparently).

Nukes are basically a bad time for everyone involved, but so are millions of pounds of conventional warheads.

Its a lose lose for sure. No matter how it gets done, 10's of millions die. The world is not mentally able or willing to accept those losses, which is how we got to where we are. Staying on the same path, the body count only rises. China is willing to let things get to the point where the West will act and then use that as an excuse to do things in response.

 

[Puffnstuff]

It won't work this time, society is too politically divided. Trump starting a war will divide it further, not unite it.

I hope you're right about this. Personally I believe that military action has to occur to put an end to this cycle of madness but I also know that the cost will be high and I'd support it even if one my own kids has to fight it.

 

[interchange]

I think that a non-military approach to NK that is more than stalling involves breaking the cultural bubble that NK people are living in. There is a black market for western TV, etc., and as technology improves it's harder and harder for the government to keep its people in the dark. If that can be facilitated, resistance can come from within. If nothing else, civil unrest makes it easier to for outside actors to cooperate in regime change. If military action is taken, I would hope it is done in concert with China, SK, and Japan.

 

[Puffnstuff]

There is a black market for western TV, etc., and as technology improves it's harder and harder for the government to keep its people in the dark. If that can be facilitated, resistance can come from within.

That should be the most desirable outcome if it can be accomplished before the regime can place a functional bomb on top of one of their missiles.

 

[yllus]

What I've read tends to say in the event of any attack that resembles one that attempts to "decapitate" the North Korean regime, North Korea will launch its ~15,000 pieces of conventional artillery on Seoul. They'll also launch chemical and biological weapons at key points along their border to slow down any conventional invasion force, plus launch chem and bio at key points and bases in Japan and South Korea to again slow down any armed response.

Maybe one million South Korean civilians and one million SK and US military dead. Who knows how many dead in North Korea; millions more isn't an unbelievable number.

North Korea has 25 million impoverished people in it. Just pay the stupid ransom every year and keep them minimally quiet. There has never been another option.