US troops exposed to contaminated water in Iraq Halliburton documents say

BBond

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It's nice to see that the Bush administration and Cheney's cronies at Halliburton, who get no-bid contract after no-bid contract, hold our troops in such high esteem that they'd go through all the trouble of hiding facts and lying to them just to make sure they get their daily dose of Coliform bacteria.

It's hard to imagine that these people can go any lower. But judging from past experience with them, I'm absolutely certain that they can -- and indeed will.

AP Enterprise: U.S. troops exposed to contaminated water in Iraq, Halliburton documents say

LAST UPDATE: 1/22/2006 2:03:49 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) - Troops and civilians at a U.S. military base in Iraq were exposed to contaminated water last year and employees for the responsible contractor, Halliburton, couldn't get their company to inform camp residents, according to interviews and internal company documents.

Halliburton, the company formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney, disputes the allegations about water problems at Camp Junction City, in Ramadi, even though they were made by its own employees and documented in company e-mails.

"We exposed a base camp population (military and civilian) to a water source that was not treated," said a July 15, 2005, memo written by William Granger, the official for Halliburton's KBR subsidiary who was in charge of water quality in Iraq and Kuwait.

"The level of contamination was roughly 2x the normal contamination of untreated water from the Euphrates River," Granger wrote in one of several documents. The Associated Press obtained the documents from Senate Democrats who are holding a public inquiry into the allegations Monday.

Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., who will chair the session, held a number of similar inquiries last year on contracting abuses in Iraq. He said Democrats were acting on their own because they had not been able to persuade Republican committee chairmen to investigate.

The company's former water treatment expert at Camp Junction City said that he discovered the problem last March, a statement confirmed by his e-mail the day after he tested the water.

While bottled water was available for drinking, the contaminated water was used for virtually everything else, including handwashing, laundry, bathing and making coffee, said water expert Ben Carter of Cedar City, Utah.

Another former Halliburton employee who worked at the base, Ken May of Louisville, said there were numerous instances of diarrhea and stomach cramps - problems he also suffered.

A spokeswoman for Halliburton said its own inspection found neither contaminated water nor medical evidence to substantiate reports of illnesses at the base. The company now operates its own water treatment plant there, spokeswoman Melissa Norcross said.

A military medical unit that visited Camp Ramadi in mid-April found nothing out of the ordinary in terms of water quality, said Marine Corps Maj. Tim Keefe, a military spokesman. Water-quality testing records from May 23 show the water within normal parameters, he said.

"The allegations appear not to have merit," Keefe said.

Halliburton has contracts to provide a number of services to U.S. forces in Iraq and was responsible for the water quality at the base in Ramadi.

Granger's July 15 memo said the exposure had gone on for "possibly a year" and added, "I am not sure if any attempt to notify the exposed population was ever made."

The first memo on the problem - written by Carter to Halliburton officials on March 24, 2005 - was an "incident report" from tests Carter performed the previous day.

"It is my opinion that the water source is without question contaminated with numerous micro-organisms, including Coliform bacteria," Carter wrote. "There is little doubt that raw sewage is routinely dumped upstream of intake much less than the required 2 mile distance.

"Therefore, it is my conclusion that chlorination of our water tanks while certainly beneficial is not sufficient protection from parasitic exposure."

Carter said he resigned in early April after Halliburton officials did not take any action to inform the camp population.

The water expert said he told company officials at the base that they would have to notify the military. "They told me it was none of my concern and to keep my mouth shut," he said.

On at least one occasion, Carter said, he spoke to the chief military surgeon at the base, asking him whether he was aware of stomach problems afflicting people. He said the surgeon told him he would look into it.

"They brushed it under the carpet," Carter said. "I told everyone, 'Don't take showers, use bottled water."

A July 14, 2005, memo showed that Halliburton's public relations department knew of the problem.

"I don't want to turn it into a big issue right now," staff member Jennifer Dellinger wrote in the memo, "but if we end up getting some media calls I want to make sure we have all the facts so we are ready to respond."

Halliburton's performance in Iraq has been criticized in a number of military audits, and congressional Democrats have contended that the Bush administration has favored the company with noncompetitive contracts.
 

feralkid

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As any true American patriot knows, we went to the desert to fight terrists, not drink a bunch of water!


:brokenheart:
 

trenchfoot

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so much for "hell-a-burst'in" taking good care of our troops. if i was a troop over there and i found out how hali- er... "somebody" screwed with the water i was using....well, i'm sure if some of the troops found out what was going on, they discretely did what they could at their level to make things right and even the way good troops would.
 

AndrewR

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The KBR chow halls are pretty good overall, at least here at Victory. Of course, if you've never been here, you'd have no idea, but don't let facts get in the way of your diatribes.

I don't drink any water not in a bottle, and neither does anyone else. If they used bad water for washing clothes, big deal. They also regularly test the water. I don't know the exact schedule, but I would be surprised if bad water was allowed through. It's definitely an isolated incident. I doubt that matters to the bashers though.
 

trenchfoot

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The KBR chow halls are pretty good overall, at least here at Victory. Of course, if you've never been here, you'd have no idea, but don't let facts get in the way of your diatribes.

yeah, i must say when i was in saudi and kuwait the food was pretty good. us air force guys didn't have it too bad. just the occasional scud alert every now and then. we mostly got desalinated water for showering and stuff. river water? can't say as i ever used it over there.

i must say though, now that i've retired out, my attitude about the stuff that the troops get put through has changed somewhat. it used to be that i felt much the same way you do, but looking back at that sandbox from the outside in, i get kind'a defensive about what you guys gotta deal with on a daily basis. you guys deserve the best, and nothing less. things were bad enough getting it from the baddies, let alone getting screwed from the pc's.

thanks for letting us know how things are with you.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: AndrewR
The KBR chow halls are pretty good overall, at least here at Victory. Of course, if you've never been here, you'd have no idea, but don't let facts get in the way of your diatribes.

Now, we aren't going to let pesky little things like facts get in the way of our daily bashing!
 

jrenz

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: AndrewR
The KBR chow halls are pretty good overall, at least here at Victory. Of course, if you've never been here, you'd have no idea, but don't let facts get in the way of your diatribes.

Now, we aren't going to let pesky little things like facts get in the way of our daily bashing!

But the American people demand the truth!
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: AndrewR
The KBR chow halls are pretty good overall, at least here at Victory. Of course, if you've never been here, you'd have no idea, but don't let facts get in the way of your diatribes.

Now, we aren't going to let pesky little things like facts get in the way of our daily bashing!
That's not a fact, it's a personal anecdote. You might want to learn the difference.

The plural of "anecdote" is not "data". That AndrewR wasn't affected by this is completely irrelvant. You can bet most of the troops exposed to this tainted water didn't know it either ... except for the ones who got sick, of course.

I hope you guys realize you will have absolutely zero credibility as long as you automatically and unfailingly attack every single story that might possibly be construed as critical of the Bush administration or the war on Iraq. Any normal person who is sincerely concerned about the welfare of our troops would be concerned about this story. They (we) know we're giving Halliburton a lot of our tax dollars, and we expect them to deliver the services we're paying them for. Unfortunately, the partisan tools and Bush sycophants care far less for the well-being of our troops than they do about scoring political points. In their world Bush is perfect, Halliburton is the best company ever, and everything is Iraq is rosy, tra la la la la ... la la la la la la la la ...
 

jrenz

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the partisan tools and Bush sycophants care far less for the well-being of our troops than they do about scoring political points.

Not to attack you personally, but IMO, this is even more true for the anti-Bush crowd.
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Any normal person who is sincerely concerned about the welfare of our troops would be concerned about this story.

Interesting.

A military medical unit that visited Camp Ramadi in mid-April found nothing out of the ordinary in terms of water quality, said Marine Corps Maj. Tim Keefe, a military spokesman. Water-quality testing records from May 23 show the water within normal parameters, he said.

"The allegations appear not to have merit," Keefe said.
 

jrenz

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Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Any normal person who is sincerely concerned about the welfare of our troops would be concerned about this story.

Interesting.

A military medical unit that visited Camp Ramadi in mid-April found nothing out of the ordinary in terms of water quality, said Marine Corps Maj. Tim Keefe, a military spokesman. Water-quality testing records from May 23 show the water within normal parameters, he said.

"The allegations appear not to have merit," Keefe said.

You need to stop with your right-wing talking points.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: jrenz
the partisan tools and Bush sycophants care far less for the well-being of our troops than they do about scoring political points.
Not to attack you personally, but IMO, this is even more true for the anti-Bush crowd.
I'm sure it is for some, and it may be an appropriate point to raise when such examples occur. In this case, however, it is clearly the Bush faithful who are ignoring the well-being of the troops for partisan reasons. Let's see if we can keep this thread on-topic.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: jrenz
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Any normal person who is sincerely concerned about the welfare of our troops would be concerned about this story.

Interesting.

A military medical unit that visited Camp Ramadi in mid-April found nothing out of the ordinary in terms of water quality, said Marine Corps Maj. Tim Keefe, a military spokesman. Water-quality testing records from May 23 show the water within normal parameters, he said.

"The allegations appear not to have merit," Keefe said.
You need to stop with your right-wing talking points.
Yet we also have this:
  • "We exposed a base camp population (military and civilian) to a water source that was not treated," said a July 15, 2005, memo written by William Granger, the official for Halliburton's KBR subsidiary who was in charge of water quality in Iraq and Kuwait.

    "The level of contamination was roughly 2x the normal contamination of untreated water from the Euphrates River," Granger wrote in one of several documents. The Associated Press obtained the documents from Senate Democrats who are holding a public inquiry into the allegations Monday.
    [ ... ]
    The company's former water treatment expert at Camp Junction City said that he discovered the problem last March, a statement confirmed by his e-mail the day after he tested the water.

    While bottled water was available for drinking, the contaminated water was used for virtually everything else, including handwashing, laundry, bathing and making coffee, said water expert Ben Carter of Cedar City, Utah.

    Another former Halliburton employee who worked at the base, Ken May of Louisville, said there were numerous instances of diarrhea and stomach cramps - problems he also suffered.
If you two would read the OP, you'll note the dirty water reports were prior to the May 23 test. Is it really that hard to understand that things change with time?
 

conjur

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I would hope they got it fixed within two months. But, leave it to the Bush-God fanbois to ignore the company's own documentation stating there was a problem.


Ignore the truth that is in plain sight.
 

FuzzyBee

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: jrenz
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Any normal person who is sincerely concerned about the welfare of our troops would be concerned about this story.

Interesting.

A military medical unit that visited Camp Ramadi in mid-April found nothing out of the ordinary in terms of water quality, said Marine Corps Maj. Tim Keefe, a military spokesman. Water-quality testing records from May 23 show the water within normal parameters, he said.

"The allegations appear not to have merit," Keefe said.
You need to stop with your right-wing talking points.
Yet we also have this:
  • "We exposed a base camp population (military and civilian) to a water source that was not treated," said a July 15, 2005, memo written by William Granger, the official for Halliburton's KBR subsidiary who was in charge of water quality in Iraq and Kuwait.

    "The level of contamination was roughly 2x the normal contamination of untreated water from the Euphrates River," Granger wrote in one of several documents. The Associated Press obtained the documents from Senate Democrats who are holding a public inquiry into the allegations Monday.
    [ ... ]
    The company's former water treatment expert at Camp Junction City said that he discovered the problem last March, a statement confirmed by his e-mail the day after he tested the water.

    While bottled water was available for drinking, the contaminated water was used for virtually everything else, including handwashing, laundry, bathing and making coffee, said water expert Ben Carter of Cedar City, Utah.

    Another former Halliburton employee who worked at the base, Ken May of Louisville, said there were numerous instances of diarrhea and stomach cramps - problems he also suffered.
If you two would read the OP, you'll note the dirty water reports were prior to the May 23 test. Is it really that hard to understand that things change with time?

So nobody fixed it? For all we know it was fixed the next day, right?
 

imported_Condor

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The worst water I have ever consumed was in NYC, Chicago, DC, SF and LA. Why do you think libs drink only bottled water? Dims gonna investigate those too?
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: jrenz
Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Any normal person who is sincerely concerned about the welfare of our troops would be concerned about this story.
Interesting.

A military medical unit that visited Camp Ramadi in mid-April found nothing out of the ordinary in terms of water quality, said Marine Corps Maj. Tim Keefe, a military spokesman. Water-quality testing records from May 23 show the water within normal parameters, he said.

"The allegations appear not to have merit," Keefe said.
You need to stop with your right-wing talking points.
Yet we also have this:
  • "We exposed a base camp population (military and civilian) to a water source that was not treated," said a July 15, 2005, memo written by William Granger, the official for Halliburton's KBR subsidiary who was in charge of water quality in Iraq and Kuwait.

    "The level of contamination was roughly 2x the normal contamination of untreated water from the Euphrates River," Granger wrote in one of several documents. The Associated Press obtained the documents from Senate Democrats who are holding a public inquiry into the allegations Monday.
    [ ... ]
    The company's former water treatment expert at Camp Junction City said that he discovered the problem last March, a statement confirmed by his e-mail the day after he tested the water.

    While bottled water was available for drinking, the contaminated water was used for virtually everything else, including handwashing, laundry, bathing and making coffee, said water expert Ben Carter of Cedar City, Utah.

    Another former Halliburton employee who worked at the base, Ken May of Louisville, said there were numerous instances of diarrhea and stomach cramps - problems he also suffered.
If you two would read the OP, you'll note the dirty water reports were prior to the May 23 test. Is it really that hard to understand that things change with time?
So nobody fixed it? For all we know it was fixed the next day, right?
I hope so. What's your point? I should hope Halliburton eventually fixed it. How does that excuse their failure to notify the base of the contamination?
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Condor
The worst water I have ever consumed was in NYC, Chicago, DC, SF and LA. Why do you think libs drink only bottled water? Dims gonna investigate those too?




It wasn't the water, so much as the Kool-Aid you mixed into it.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Condor
The worst water I have ever consumed was in NYC, Chicago, DC, SF and LA. Why do you think libs drink only bottled water? Dims gonna investigate those too?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: Condor
The worst water I have ever consumed was in NYC, Chicago, DC, SF and LA. Why do you think libs drink only bottled water? Dims gonna investigate those too?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Nice way to support our troops. While HELLiburton is making record profits off of their former CEO's war, our troops are drinking contaminated water RAW FROM THE EUPHRATES RIVER -- and you two are cracking jokes about it.

You people really have no shame. None whatsoever.

Despicable. Just simply despicable.

 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: Condor
The worst water I have ever consumed was in NYC, Chicago, DC, SF and LA. Why do you think libs drink only bottled water? Dims gonna investigate those too?




It wasn't the water, so much as the Kool-Aid you mixed into it.

The only time I have had to mix koolaid with (excusing the fact that libs mostly have no knowledge of where the koolaid comments originated) water was in Biloxi after Camille. We had no access to purified water and had to mix Clorox bleach with the water in small amounts to kill bacteria. That small amount of Clorine made the water taste so bad that we covered the taste with koolaid. The troops were digging bodies out of rubble and didn't need anything else awful in their day.