yep... That makes 2 TWO false filings to the FL S C by the Gore team. Will be tough to get the Fl S C to be very understanding.
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I like Judge Burton. Very reasonably discussed the standards used in PBC and the fact that the Democrats tied him up in court and with an argument about how to count the dimples caused enough delay to make them miss the deadline.
Michael
they're done for the day and will be back tomorrow. tick tock, tick tock
Michael
they're done for the day and will be back tomorrow. tick tock, tick tock
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2nd day.
The Republican witness on voting machines just testified that a manual recount is appropriate in very close elections and that undervotes have to be examined for hanging chad.
There also was good testimony that a mere dimple does not mean a vote was cast.
I really doubt that there will be no recount. I've doubted that from the very beginning.
Michael
The Republican witness on voting machines just testified that a manual recount is appropriate in very close elections and that undervotes have to be examined for hanging chad.
There also was good testimony that a mere dimple does not mean a vote was cast.
I really doubt that there will be no recount. I've doubted that from the very beginning.
Michael
<< The Republican witness on voting machines just testified that a manual recount is appropriate in very close elections and that undervotes have to be examined for hanging chad. >>
Yeah, I just heard that too.....I did't hear his earlier testimony, when the Republicans were questioning him......Amazing, the Republican witness came out and said that so clearly.
He said manual recounts are necessary in close elections. He also said the counting machines can change counts because of hanging chads getting pushed back and forth.
Michael,
>>>I really doubt that there will be no recount. I've doubted that from the very beginning.<<<
Please explain this statement at 33 1/3 rpm. I am having trouble understanding it at 78 rpm.
I'll go get some coffee
>>>I really doubt that there will be no recount. I've doubted that from the very beginning.<<<
Please explain this statement at 33 1/3 rpm. I am having trouble understanding it at 78 rpm.
I'll go get some coffee
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Tripleshot - Every court case that I've ever heard of went to a manual recount. Manual recounting has been the method used forever. Arguing that there should be no manual recounts is a losing argument. I can see no way of winning the argument that all the ballots should not be, at minimum, manually checked for hanging chad.
The important point is not whether or not a recount occurs, the important thing is the standard used for the recount. Use PBC's standard and recount Broward and Miami-Dade. Accept PBC's manual recount totals.
Gore will lose and all the bloody ballots will have been manually recounted.
It is also important to note that there is no right to a manual recount.
Michael
The important point is not whether or not a recount occurs, the important thing is the standard used for the recount. Use PBC's standard and recount Broward and Miami-Dade. Accept PBC's manual recount totals.
Gore will lose and all the bloody ballots will have been manually recounted.
It is also important to note that there is no right to a manual recount.
Michael
Red,
<< Politics sucked before but it has reached an all time low. >>
Is it? Or is it simply perception? Lying, cheating, stealing have been with us since Day One. Only difference now is we have a profit-maddened mainstream TV media that cares more for ratings than integrity. But again, this anomoly has been with us for centuries.
Anyway, assuming the Digust Level is bad now and getting worse, how in the hell will this country survive in 50 years? Just look at what the country put up with in Clinton simply due to the booming economy and apathy. I'm thinking corrupt socialism is inevitable. At some point the system will break and we'll need to start a new. I'd like to think our system is ever-lasting but I'm no fool -- just glance at history to see unending birth/growth/decay/destruction cycles.
Damn I sound like an old crotchy "doom and gloom" fart, don't I?
<< Politics sucked before but it has reached an all time low. >>
Is it? Or is it simply perception? Lying, cheating, stealing have been with us since Day One. Only difference now is we have a profit-maddened mainstream TV media that cares more for ratings than integrity. But again, this anomoly has been with us for centuries.
Anyway, assuming the Digust Level is bad now and getting worse, how in the hell will this country survive in 50 years? Just look at what the country put up with in Clinton simply due to the booming economy and apathy. I'm thinking corrupt socialism is inevitable. At some point the system will break and we'll need to start a new. I'd like to think our system is ever-lasting but I'm no fool -- just glance at history to see unending birth/growth/decay/destruction cycles.
Damn I sound like an old crotchy "doom and gloom" fart, don't I?
- Nov 19, 1999
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After having the court case on in that background or me watching it today (a house cleaning day getting ready for a couple of holiday parties), I would say that I think the Gore team had better arguments.
I am not experienced with how much of a threshhold they have to overcome. I will say that I saw a good case for a review of the ballots and a poor case why all the ballots had to be looked at.
The arguments to dismiss the case because Gore/Lieberman were not the correct parties to bring it is a wildcard that I have no clue how to evaluate.
I think Gore will lose as the Judge will use the PBC standard and there will not be enough votes in Miami-Dade. I also think he'll let Nassau County stand.
Michael
I am not experienced with how much of a threshhold they have to overcome. I will say that I saw a good case for a review of the ballots and a poor case why all the ballots had to be looked at.
The arguments to dismiss the case because Gore/Lieberman were not the correct parties to bring it is a wildcard that I have no clue how to evaluate.
I think Gore will lose as the Judge will use the PBC standard and there will not be enough votes in Miami-Dade. I also think he'll let Nassau County stand.
Michael
This is a Funny story! I just wanted to break the serious tone here for a bit. Ok back to your reagularly scheduled anandtech post.
The case in itself is about, should there be another recount. And if so, should there be only the 14,000(highly doubtful), the whole county or the whole state.
I have a feeling the Judge will not rule for a recount in PBC, or Nassau. Dade is a toss up.
And this is partisan politics at its best
<< Justice Breyer framed the debate by stating: Whether we win, whether your side wins. >>
Odd how the media didn't harp on a Gore's personal friend on the US Supreme Court when he made that statement, but you better believe that they would jump all over the republican members of the court if they said anything close to that. Obviously it won't be 9-0....
I have a feeling the Judge will not rule for a recount in PBC, or Nassau. Dade is a toss up.
And this is partisan politics at its best
<< Justice Breyer framed the debate by stating: Whether we win, whether your side wins. >>
Odd how the media didn't harp on a Gore's personal friend on the US Supreme Court when he made that statement, but you better believe that they would jump all over the republican members of the court if they said anything close to that. Obviously it won't be 9-0....
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