US strike kills Iranian Quds Force commander

[Jhhnn]

You call calling ahead to Iraq and telling them where they the missiles would land so they dont kill any Americans because they know Trump will hit them in 52 strategic targets calling a bet? It seems they were saving face ,I ,I would have done the same if I was Iran ,this is not the Obama chump administration ,this is the do what we say administration.
That's why no Americans were killed.

Where in the world did you get that? Inquiring minds want to know... Even Trump said it was our early warning system-

According to Trump, this had nothing to do with luck or bad aim. Instead, he attributed it to “an early warning system that worked very well.” The US has a vast network of radars and satellites dedicated to tracking missile launches around the globe, which allowed troops stationed at the Iraqi bases to take cover before the missiles struck their targets.

How the US Knew Iranian Missiles Were Coming Before They Hit

The US has operated an extensive network of missile warning systems for over half a century, but next-generation missiles will put it to the test.

www.wired.com

 

[happy medium]

Where in the world did you get that? Inquiring minds want to know... Even Trump said it was our early warning system-

How the US Knew Iranian Missiles Were Coming Before They Hit

The US has operated an extensive network of missile warning systems for over half a century, but next-generation missiles will put it to the test.

www.wired.com

BBC news.

Ever wonder why they didn't just shoot rockets at our embassy??
They certainly could have.
If your firing 15 ballistic missiles at say 2 targets,hownthe hell can you not hit one person?
If you believe that Iran actually tried to kill any American's, I have some swamp land to sell you in Florida.

 

[Jhhnn]

BBC news.

Linky-linky.

 

[happy medium]

Linky-linky.

It was on my television. I didnt read it.
Hey but I really shouldn't trust ANY news source now a days.
I get your point.

 

[Zorba]

President Truman left office in 1953.

So what you are saying is that in the last 67 years it is almost exclusively Republicans getting our youth killed in wars?

https://www.battlefields.org/sites/default/files/styles/scale_width_1120/public/thumbnails/image/casualties-by-war_1.jpg?itok=2jP-o8I1

Republicans clearly take the cake, with Lincoln leading the way.

 

[ivwshane]

It says a lot that the rational actor in all this was Iran.

Iran comes out as the winner in this one. They got Iraq to kick the US out, they get their citizens to rally around the government, and the put the focus back on an impeached president who more than likely violated US laws, all while retaining the ability to have indirect responses by factions they support.

The only people who see this as a trump win are his sycophants and his cult followers. The same people who would praise the dear leader even if he’s boarding a plane with toilet paper on his shoe.

 

[Jhhnn]

It was on my television. I didnt read it.
Hey but I really shouldn't trust ANY news source now a days.
I get your point.

I thin you misunderstood-

Iran missile attack: Did Tehran intentionally avoid US casualties?

Satellite images show destroyed structures at an air base - but other missiles landed far away.

www.bbc.com

 

[amenx]

"The Iraqi Prime Minister's office said it was given verbal notification from Tehran just before the attack happened. It's hard to see how the US would not learn of that somehow."

Iran's strikes seem intended to avoid US deaths. Here's why that might be the case | CNN

Iran's missile strikes against bases in Iraq housing American troops early Wednesday were not an act designed to kill the most Americans possible. There are a number of reasons why that might be the case.

edition.cnn.com

 

[amenx]

Tbh, I think Trumps deescalation after the Iran 'strike' was simply fear of the unknown, that things could unfold in a way that further disadvantages the US strategically (and economically) which could hurt him in the election. I think Trump was taken aback by the huge world-wide shock at Suleimanis killing and seeing that he may have gotten himself deeper into something he may regret. So the deescalation.

 

[happy medium]

"The Iraqi Prime Minister's office said it was given verbal notification from Tehran just before the attack happened. It's hard to see how the US would not learn of that somehow."

Iran's strikes seem intended to avoid US deaths. Here's why that might be the case | CNN

Iran's missile strikes against bases in Iraq housing American troops early Wednesday were not an act designed to kill the most Americans possible. There are a number of reasons why that might be the case.

edition.cnn.com

I guess the BBC has some creditability.
Thanks for the link.

 

[happy medium]

Tbh, I think Trumps deescalation after the Iran 'strike' was simply fear of the unknown, that things could unfold in a way that further disadvantages the US strategically (and economically) which could hurt him in the election. I think Trump was taken aback by the huge world-wide shock at Suleimanis killing and seeing that he may have gotten himself deeper into something he may regret. So the deescalation.

I dont see deescalation.
I see Iran just wasted 15 missiles to lie their people and say they killed 80, when truth is they did nothing.
We know it, Trump knows.
All is well,no red lines crossed.
If American's were killed ,we would be talking about Trump being a war monger,and Iran would be on fire.

 

[Muse]

BBC news.

Ever wonder why they didn't just shoot rockets at our embassy??
They certainly could have.
If your firing 15 ballistic missiles at say 2 targets,hownthe hell can you not hit one person?
If you believe that Iran actually tried to kill any American's, I have some swamp land to sell you in Florida.

Presumably (we're told) the troops had time and were given orders to bunker. That's the US's explanation why there were no casualties. Whether or not you believe this stuff is up to you. Myself, I'm skeptical. Not saying one way or another, from where I am I see a propaganda war, a drone strike, missile strikes, photos.

 

[Jhhnn]

"The Iraqi Prime Minister's office said it was given verbal notification from Tehran just before the attack happened. It's hard to see how the US would not learn of that somehow."

Iran's strikes seem intended to avoid US deaths. Here's why that might be the case | CNN

Iran's missile strikes against bases in Iraq housing American troops early Wednesday were not an act designed to kill the most Americans possible. There are a number of reasons why that might be the case.

edition.cnn.com

So what? When you shoot missiles at a target the possibility of people being killed is just part of the equation.

 

[happy medium]

So what? When you shoot missiles at a target the possibility of people being killed is just part of the equation.

As long as no American's were killed, it means nothing,at least in our eyes.

 

[Muse]

I dont see deescalation.
I see Iran just wasted 15 missiles to lie their people and say they killed 80, when truth is they did nothing.
We know it, Trump knows.
All is well,no red lines crossed.
If American's were killed ,we would be talking about Trump being a war monger.

Whatever... if Americans were killed we'd be in a tough situation what with Trump saying we're going to retaliate Hollywood style if there were. That's what makes me think they're claiming no casualties, true or false. Trump doesn't much care if something is true or false. He only cares about people's reactions to what he says, particularly his base.

 

[happy medium]

Whatever... if Americans were killed we'd be in a tough situation what with Trump saying we're going to retaliate Hollywood style if there were. That's what makes me think they're claiming no casualties, true or false. Trump doesn't much care if something is true or false. He only cares about people's reactions to what he says, particularly his base.

Well from what I understand, Trump said ,if any Americans are killed, Iran saved face ,called Iraq and said missiles are coming to said location, knew the Americans would be told,and lied to their people and said they killed 80.
I dont know what kind of news they have in Iran ,but if it's any worse than our news ,most Iranians would never know the truth.
And that's, that.
End of story,until one of the terrorist cells in Iraq kill American's and we find evidence that Iran was behind it and we attack them.
That's the way I see this playing out.

 

[Muse]

BBC news.

Ever wonder why they didn't just shoot rockets at our embassy??
They certainly could have.

Firing rockets at our embassy would be really really bad acting on the world stage. Countries AFAIK never do things like that. Embassies are supposed to be off limits to military activities. It's a long standing tradition in international relations.

 

[Jhhnn]

As long as no American's were killed, it means nothing,at least in our eyes.

So lame. Trump-

Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have.........targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD," he said. "The USA wants no more threats!

Iran attacks, destroys American assets. Trump gives them a pass because nobody was killed, which was merely a function of luck. He had his excuse for war, the crossing of the line he drew in the sand, and backed away from it. Pompeo & his merry band of Neocon war mongers probably wept.

 

[Jhhnn]

Firing rockets at our embassy would be really really bad acting on the world stage. Countries AFAIK never do things like that. Embassies are supposed to be off limits to military activities. It's a long standing tradition in international relations.

So are diplomats like Soleimani.

 

[happy medium]

So lame. Trump-



Iran attacks, destroys American assets. Trump gives them a pass because nobody was killed, which was merely a function of luck. He had his excuse for war, the crossing of the line he drew in the sand, and backed away from it. Pompeo & his merry band of Neocon war mongers probably wept.

What American assets?
Planes? Barracks?
Ships?
Drones?
An old typewriter?

 

[Jhhnn]

What American assets?
Planes? Barracks?
Ships?
Drones?
An old typewriter?

The fucking airbase Trump says he wants the Iraqis to pay for if they force us to pull out.

Satellite Photos Reveal Extent Of Damage From Iranian Strike On Air Base In Iraq

At least five structures were damaged in the attack on the base in Anbar province, which apparently was precise enough to hit individual buildings. There have been no reports of casualties.

www.npr.org

Wimping out on his own stupid threats was the only thing Trump did right in all of this. The consequences of war with Iran would be huge & utterly incalculable, other than crashing the world economy when the oil stops flowing out of the Persian Gulf.

 

[happy medium]

The fucking airbase Trump says he wants the Iraqis to pay for if they force us to pull out.

Satellite Photos Reveal Extent Of Damage From Iranian Strike On Air Base In Iraq

At least five structures were damaged in the attack on the base in Anbar province, which apparently was precise enough to hit individual buildings. There have been no reports of casualties.

www.npr.org

Wimping out on his own stupid threats was the only thing Trump did right in all of this. The consequences of war with Iran would be huge & utterly incalculable, other than crashing the world economy when the oil stops flowing out of the Persian Gulf.

You mean an Iraqi air base?? Or did we build it there?
Either way, big freaking deal.

Again ,he didnt wimp out on anything, he killed who needed to be killed and in return no Amercans were hurt..
Game, set ,match.

 

[woolfe9998]

It says a lot that the rational actor in all this was Iran.

Iran comes out as the winner in this one. They got Iraq to kick the US out, they get their citizens to rally around the government, and the put the focus back on an impeached president who more than likely violated US laws, all while retaining the ability to have indirect responses by factions they support.

I can't agree with this assessment, at least not yet. If Iran's singular response to our assassination of one of their top officials was a symbolic warning shot, then they aren't the winner here. Not only does that send a signal that you can get away with assassinating Iran's leaders, but the bigger problem is with the hardliners. They'll never stand for it.

I don't think we've seen a final outcome here to know enough to declare a winner. I'm also quite certain we haven't heard the last from Iran on this.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You call calling ahead to Iraq and telling them where they the missiles would land so they dont kill any Americans because they know Trump will hit them in 52 strategic targets calling a bet? It seems they were saving face ,I ,I would have done the same if I was Iran ,this is not the Obama chump administration ,this is the do what we say administration.
That's why no Americans were killed.

Bullshit.

 

[happy medium]

Bullshit.

Someone has a link in this thread to back up the claim.
So BS not.