US Soldiers prevent a terrorist attack aboard a French train

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davmat787

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Also, I don't know about you guys, but it's not often I come across a modern centerfire cartridge that has a bum primer, especially 7.62x39mm. The luck involved in this story is just amazing. If that primer had worked, I'm pretty sure we'd be reading about a train massacre with at least 20-30 dead people involved. With that weapon, at those distances, yikes...it would have been ugly.

The attacker obviously never trained for clearing the different failure types on an AK-47. Or he's one of those "AK's NEVER jam!" assholes. Probably thought Allah would have that covered. You should be able to clear a misfire in a second or two with minimal practice.

Probably was using 35 year old ammunition that was recently found in an old cold war facility in Belarus.

The narrow confines of a train that is densely packed with people that have no escape makes for one hell of a slaughter house, fortunately he couldn't properly operate firearms and the servicemen stopped him.
 
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mrjminer

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Excellent work mitigating the damage and casualties. Hopefully this inspires others to not just sit around and get shot by nutjobs. Fighting back is the only option sometimes. Helps that they had an awesome response time to the threat. Kudos to these guys.

America, FTW
 

DCal430

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I am tired of hearing this story on the news. It is being blown up way too much.

I know they did a great thing, but it is too much now.
 
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davmat787

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I am tired of hearing this story on the news. It is being blown up way too much.

I know they did a great thing, but it is too much now.

Of all the things on TV you could bitch about you chose this one? Lol..
 
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Sulaco

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I am tired of hearing this story on the news. It is being blown up way too much.

I know they did a great thing, but it is too much now.

You realize had they NOT done anything, with an AK and handgun, this guy would have massacred easily DOZENS, of innocents on that train, making it one of the biggest terror attacks in Europe in years, right?
Meaning you'd still be hearing about it on the news right now, just with a much sadder ending.

So perhaps when you're finished fellating your boy Lil Kim you'll be aware that some news stories are worth hearing the details of.
 

FerrelGeek

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Blow it out your ass, Howard.

wtg, moron.

I am tired of hearing this story on the news. It is being blown up way too much.

I know they did a great thing, but it is too much now.

Oh, I'm so sorry for you. Just watch mainstream news where all they're talking about is the Ashley Madison stuff. That's more your speed anyway.

Congrats to those fine men who averted what would've been a real tragedy.
 

stlc8tr

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I was getting a little irked by all the surrender crap regarding the French. I've always felt the stereotype was unfair, and have French friends who were really into judo, boxing, and starting shit with Russians and gypsies. I had many terms for them, but "pussies" and "cowards" weren't on the list.

But then in that BBC article about Hollande's praise I saw:

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..."I'm really proud of my friend that he just reacted so quickly and so bravely," Anthony Sadler said.

"He was really the first one over there. Even after being injured himself, he went to go help the other man who was bleeding also. Without his help, he would have died.

"That man was bleeding from his neck profusely."

The 554 passengers included French actor Jean-Hugues Anglade, the star of Betty Blue and Nikita, who was lightly wounded breaking glass to sound the alarm.

In an interview with Paris Match magazine, Mr Anglade said train staff entered a private cabin and locked it when they heard gunshots, leaving the passengers alone.

"I thought it was the end, that we were going to die, that he was going to kill us all," he said.

"I really could see us all dying because we were all prisoners in that train, it would have been impossible to escape from that nightmare."

The American men and Mr Norman were awarded medals for bravery by authorities in Arras.
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WTF people? What happened to protecting your passengers - was there not a single able bodied man available to at least check on the situation? That's disgraceful.

From the same BBC article:

When a French passenger tried to enter a toilet on the train, he encountered the gunman, tried to overpower him and the gun was then fired, Mr Cazeneuve said.
A French-American passenger was injured by the bullet, and the American passengers intervened shortly afterward, he said.

Some French guy first ran into the gunman but wasn't able to take the gunman down. It's unclear from the article what happened to him after that. From other articles, it didn't seem like the French guy who tried to overpower the gunman was the one who got shot. Most of the articles concentrate on the Americans and the Brit so there's no much information on the French guy.
 

kage69

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From the same BBC article:



Some French guy first ran into the gunman but wasn't able to take the gunman down. It's unclear from the article what happened to him after that. From other articles, it didn't seem like the French guy who tried to overpower the gunman was the one who got shot. Most of the articles concentrate on the Americans and the Brit so there's no much information on the French guy.

Yeah I read that too, but honestly I'm referring to the crew here, hence my use of "What happened to protecting your passengers?"

The French person who attempted to use the bathroom and ran into the shooter first was a passenger, not a member of the crew.

Passengers to the lifeboats! Women and children first! - that's the kind of mentality you want from the operators of your vessel when the suck gets cranked to 11 - not "Good luck with that!" as they lock themselves away in safety and let the passengers fend for themselves.

That's some straight up Capt. Schettino chickenshit right there.