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Deptacon

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Deptacon
I have no problem admiting there are mistakes, but I have a problem when peopl cant admit they dont have a better idea besudes cut tail and run.


'cut and run' is nothing more than a bullshit bumper slogan statement.
it means nothing, and nobody has proposed that at all.

Just a mindless statment ment to group and incite the weakminded.

What? its suggested in every thread o nthis forum, and if its not being suggested, WAHT IS? everyone says Iraq is bad, poor planning, poor orgainization, etc etc, but no good plausable solutions, to actually fixing the situation, BESIDES bringing the troops home...
Maybe if things were improvong over there instead of getting worse Americans wouldn't be so pessimistic. Continuing with a horrble plan in light of a better plan is no solution so withdrawing from Iraq seems to be the best idea. Maybe rearm the Sunni's and work covertly with them likw we did with Sadam. It might not be the best for the Iraqi's but having a strongman/dictator in power that is allied with the US likw we have in Pakistan would be best for us.


I dont thin kthe plan over there now is the same as it was 3 years ago, the missions and the day to day mission structure has changed. and I dont think its horrible, its very hard to implement though due to culture and social issues in the region, it would take years and years from democracy to really have a foot hold and be strong there.... I dont thing anything has failed though, its still a work in progress... yes, p[eople are dieing, thats gonna happen, especially in that region, hell, Bosnia STILL isnt stable after all these years.... those people stil lwant to kill each other

There is this impression that many people have that this hwole process should be easy going.... we are changing a govt, changing the way different people (sunni, shite), have the live toghter, thats not goning to go over well. AND ESPEICALLY IN THAT REGION. we are go9ing to and conintue to get a lot of resistence, plus, I think those in the insurgency KNOW about the pessimesitic thougts of many in the states and are playing on that....I think, they believe, that we have no resolve, and will buckle eventually....

Im sorry I wont be a prt of that crap....
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
There is this impression that many people have that this hwole process should be easy going.... we are changing a govt, changing the way different people (sunni, shite), have the live toghter, thats not goning to go over well. AND ESPEICALLY IN THAT REGION. we are go9ing to and conintue to get a lot of resistence, plus, I think those in the insurgency KNOW about the pessimesitic thougts of many in the states and are playing on that....I think, they believe, that we have no resolve, and will buckle eventually....

Im sorry I wont be a prt of that crap....
Where did we ever get that impression?? Oh yeah from this Administration when they assured us when arguing for the Invasion of Iraq that the people would be greeting us like Liberators instead of occupiers. Just another lie or deception among the many leading up to this debacle of a war from the Dub and his handlers.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Deptacon
I have no problem admiting there are mistakes, but I have a problem when peopl cant admit they dont have a better idea besudes cut tail and run.


'cut and run' is nothing more than a bullshit bumper slogan statement.
it means nothing, and nobody has proposed that at all.

Just a mindless statment ment to group and incite the weakminded.

What? its suggested in every thread o nthis forum, and if its not being suggested, WAHT IS? everyone says Iraq is bad, poor planning, poor orgainization, etc etc, but no good plausable solutions, to actually fixing the situation, BESIDES bringing the troops home...
Maybe if things were improvong over there instead of getting worse Americans wouldn't be so pessimistic. Continuing with a horrble plan in light of a better plan is no solution so withdrawing from Iraq seems to be the best idea. Maybe rearm the Sunni's and work covertly with them likw we did with Sadam. It might not be the best for the Iraqi's but having a strongman/dictator in power that is allied with the US likw we have in Pakistan would be best for us.


I dont thin kthe plan over there now is the same as it was 3 years ago, the missions and the day to day mission structure has changed. and I dont think its horrible, its very hard to implement though due to culture and social issues in the region, it would take years and years from democracy to really have a foot hold and be strong there.... I dont thing anything has failed though, its still a work in progress... yes, p[eople are dieing, thats gonna happen, especially in that region, hell, Bosnia STILL isnt stable after all these years.... those people stil lwant to kill each other

There is this impression that many people have that this hwole process should be easy going.... we are changing a govt, changing the way different people (sunni, shite), have the live toghter, thats not goning to go over well. AND ESPEICALLY IN THAT REGION. we are go9ing to and conintue to get a lot of resistence, plus, I think those in the insurgency KNOW about the pessimesitic thougts of many in the states and are playing on that....I think, they believe, that we have no resolve, and will buckle eventually....

Im sorry I wont be a prt of that crap....



So basicaly you are signing up to the continued failure of a policy that is inherently no different than the lost lessons of Vietnam.

Again - we didn't understand the culture there , and instead of taking the time to learn from mistakes and prevent
repeting those mistakes, Rumsfeld & company figured that on the cheap with a fixation of tecno-gadgets would make up for it,
in spite of being told by those who actually had a military background and experience what would happen if not properly scoped.
Eric Shinseki was the only one who's head was put on a pike as an example to all other honest and knowlagable
military leaders as a warning to 'shut up' - the Chicken Hawks and their Neocon agenda will make the decisions
even though they didn't really know diddly-squat about how the military operates, "we're your corporate bosses - do as you're told".
. . and as any good soldier . . . who doesn't want their carrer ruined by petty partisan politics, they did what they were told.
They had seen how respected the decisions by true military commanders were taken by the Bush Sycophants and their yes-boys.





 

Deptacon

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Nov 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Deptacon
I have no problem admiting there are mistakes, but I have a problem when peopl cant admit they dont have a better idea besudes cut tail and run.


'cut and run' is nothing more than a bullshit bumper slogan statement.
it means nothing, and nobody has proposed that at all.

Just a mindless statment ment to group and incite the weakminded.

What? its suggested in every thread o nthis forum, and if its not being suggested, WAHT IS? everyone says Iraq is bad, poor planning, poor orgainization, etc etc, but no good plausable solutions, to actually fixing the situation, BESIDES bringing the troops home...
Maybe if things were improvong over there instead of getting worse Americans wouldn't be so pessimistic. Continuing with a horrble plan in light of a better plan is no solution so withdrawing from Iraq seems to be the best idea. Maybe rearm the Sunni's and work covertly with them likw we did with Sadam. It might not be the best for the Iraqi's but having a strongman/dictator in power that is allied with the US likw we have in Pakistan would be best for us.


I dont thin kthe plan over there now is the same as it was 3 years ago, the missions and the day to day mission structure has changed. and I dont think its horrible, its very hard to implement though due to culture and social issues in the region, it would take years and years from democracy to really have a foot hold and be strong there.... I dont thing anything has failed though, its still a work in progress... yes, p[eople are dieing, thats gonna happen, especially in that region, hell, Bosnia STILL isnt stable after all these years.... those people stil lwant to kill each other

There is this impression that many people have that this hwole process should be easy going.... we are changing a govt, changing the way different people (sunni, shite), have the live toghter, thats not goning to go over well. AND ESPEICALLY IN THAT REGION. we are go9ing to and conintue to get a lot of resistence, plus, I think those in the insurgency KNOW about the pessimesitic thougts of many in the states and are playing on that....I think, they believe, that we have no resolve, and will buckle eventually....

Im sorry I wont be a prt of that crap....



So basicaly you are signing up to the continued failure of a policy that is inherently no different than the lost lessons of Vietnam.

Again - we didn't understand the culture there , and instead of taking the time to learn from mistakes and prevent
repeting those mistakes, Rumsfeld & company figured that on the cheap with a fixation of tecno-gadgets would make up for it,
in spite of being told by those who actually had a military background and experience what would happen if not properly scoped.
Eric Shinseki was the only one who's head was put on a pike as an example to all other honest and knowlagable
military leaders as a warning to 'shut up' - the Chicken Hawks and their Neocon agenda will make the decisions
even though they didn't really know diddly-squat about how the military operates, "we're your corporate bosses - do as you're told".
. . and as any good soldier . . . who doesn't want their carrer ruined by petty partisan politics, they did what they were told.
They had seen how respected the decisions by true military commanders were taken by the Bush Sycophants and their yes-boys.



you are 0-3 for uselss posts... post some legitimate commments and arguments like redawn, and stop just broadsiding everything, god, you sound like a borken record...

Blag dubby,

blah rumsfield..

blah..the lies...

blah... the deciption...

blah SHUT UP!

if you dont hav e an educated comment to make, dont speak.... your rehetoric and anti-necon comments are just spewing from every pore....calm down, and make some really arguments....cause right now, everyone is just ignoring you...
 

Deptacon

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Nov 22, 2004
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Deptacon
There is this impression that many people have that this hwole process should be easy going.... we are changing a govt, changing the way different people (sunni, shite), have the live toghter, thats not goning to go over well. AND ESPEICALLY IN THAT REGION. we are go9ing to and conintue to get a lot of resistence, plus, I think those in the insurgency KNOW about the pessimesitic thougts of many in the states and are playing on that....I think, they believe, that we have no resolve, and will buckle eventually....

Im sorry I wont be a prt of that crap....
Where did we ever get that impression?? Oh yeah from this Administration when they assured us when arguing for the Invasion of Iraq that the people would be greeting us like Liberators instead of occupiers. Just another lie or deception among the many leading up to this debacle of a war from the Dub and his handlers.


do you guys take every post or comment, that isnt anti-bush, and throw in the l"latest lie and deception..... debalce of the dubby war line??? it takes what starts out to be good educated political argument, ...to cheap , weak, political name calling.... get over it, grow up... you dont have to use cheesy liberal neocon-bashin lines to get your point across
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Deptacon
I have no problem admiting there are mistakes, but I have a problem when peopl cant admit they dont have a better idea besudes cut tail and run.


'cut and run' is nothing more than a bullshit bumper slogan statement.
it means nothing, and nobody has proposed that at all.

Just a mindless statment ment to group and incite the weakminded.

What? its suggested in every thread o nthis forum, and if its not being suggested, WAHT IS? everyone says Iraq is bad, poor planning, poor orgainization, etc etc, but no good plausable solutions, to actually fixing the situation, BESIDES bringing the troops home...
Maybe if things were improvong over there instead of getting worse Americans wouldn't be so pessimistic. Continuing with a horrble plan in light of a better plan is no solution so withdrawing from Iraq seems to be the best idea. Maybe rearm the Sunni's and work covertly with them likw we did with Sadam. It might not be the best for the Iraqi's but having a strongman/dictator in power that is allied with the US likw we have in Pakistan would be best for us.


I dont thin kthe plan over there now is the same as it was 3 years ago, the missions and the day to day mission structure has changed. and I dont think its horrible, its very hard to implement though due to culture and social issues in the region, it would take years and years from democracy to really have a foot hold and be strong there.... I dont thing anything has failed though, its still a work in progress... yes, p[eople are dieing, thats gonna happen, especially in that region, hell, Bosnia STILL isnt stable after all these years.... those people stil lwant to kill each other

There is this impression that many people have that this hwole process should be easy going.... we are changing a govt, changing the way different people (sunni, shite), have the live toghter, thats not goning to go over well. AND ESPEICALLY IN THAT REGION. we are go9ing to and conintue to get a lot of resistence, plus, I think those in the insurgency KNOW about the pessimesitic thougts of many in the states and are playing on that....I think, they believe, that we have no resolve, and will buckle eventually....

Im sorry I wont be a prt of that crap....



So basicaly you are signing up to the continued failure of a policy that is inherently no different than the lost lessons of Vietnam.

Again - we didn't understand the culture there , and instead of taking the time to learn from mistakes and prevent
repeting those mistakes, Rumsfeld & company figured that on the cheap with a fixation of tecno-gadgets would make up for it,
in spite of being told by those who actually had a military background and experience what would happen if not properly scoped.
Eric Shinseki was the only one who's head was put on a pike as an example to all other honest and knowlagable
military leaders as a warning to 'shut up' - the Chicken Hawks and their Neocon agenda will make the decisions
even though they didn't really know diddly-squat about how the military operates, "we're your corporate bosses - do as you're told".
. . and as any good soldier . . . who doesn't want their carrer ruined by petty partisan politics, they did what they were told.
They had seen how respected the decisions by true military commanders were taken by the Bush Sycophants and their yes-boys.



you are 0-3 for uselss posts... post some legitimate commments and arguments like redawn, and stop just broadsiding everything, god, you sound like a borken record...

Blag dubby,

blah rumsfield..

blah..the lies...

blah... the deciption...

blah SHUT UP!

if you dont hav e an educated comment to make, dont speak.... your rehetoric and anti-necon comments are just spewing from every pore....calm down, and make some really arguments....cause right now, everyone is just ignoring you...


I've got your 'shut up' right here.

I am considering that maybe it would be in the best interest of theis countey for the congress to launch an investigation
of why 'aledged military officers' are actively bloging on internet chatrooms to advance a propaganda agenda.
To me it reads of crimimal intent and subversion of military ethics.
After all - it's using military resources against US citizens, already banned under FISA laws.
Think you could stand up to that investigation? I don't think so.



 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Deptacon
There is this impression that many people have that this hwole process should be easy going.... we are changing a govt, changing the way different people (sunni, shite), have the live toghter, thats not goning to go over well. AND ESPEICALLY IN THAT REGION. we are go9ing to and conintue to get a lot of resistence, plus, I think those in the insurgency KNOW about the pessimesitic thougts of many in the states and are playing on that....I think, they believe, that we have no resolve, and will buckle eventually....

Im sorry I wont be a prt of that crap....
Where did we ever get that impression?? Oh yeah from this Administration when they assured us when arguing for the Invasion of Iraq that the people would be greeting us like Liberators instead of occupiers. Just another lie or deception among the many leading up to this debacle of a war from the Dub and his handlers.


do you guys take every post or comment, that isnt anti-bush, and throw in the l"latest lie and deception..... debalce of the dubby war line??? it takes what starts out to be good educated political argument, ...to cheap , weak, political name calling.... get over it, grow up... you dont have to use cheesy liberal neocon-bashin lines to get your point across
You make the point that Americans are pessimistic about Iraq and I comment on why Americans are pessimistic and you call it political bashing? Well if the truth is bashing so be it,.
 

tommywishbone

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Maybe those 300 troops could be used here:

Snipers kill 17 Iraq Shiite pilgrims By QAIS AL-BASHIR, Associated Press Writer 44 minutes ago, Sunday, Auhgust 19.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Snipers firing from rooftops and a cemetery killed at least 17 people and wounded dozens Sunday in a series of attacks on a Shiite religious procession that drew hundreds of thousands of pilgrims to Baghdad. The "terrorist assaults" took place when the pilgrims were walking through Sunni areas on their way to the shrine of Imam Moussa Kadhim, one of 12 Shiite saints, Health Ministry spokesman Qassim Allawi told The Associated Press.

In one neighborhood, security forces and Shiite militiamen in flak jackets were seen exchanging gunfire with unseen assailants who were firing from houses and buildings. Some of the attackers were firing from behind tombstones in a Sunni cemetery.

The violence defied a weekend driving ban to prevent car bombs amid a cycle of tit-for-tat attacks by Shiites and Sunnis in Iraq since the Feb. 22 bombing of a Shiite mosque in Samarra. The sectarian warfare, along with the deadly Sunni Arab insurgency, has become the biggest challenge for the U.S.-backed national unity government.

Thousands of extra U.S. troops also have been deployed in recent weeks as part of a security crackdown in the capital as many fear the bloodshed, which is claiming about 100 lives a day, could lead to an all-out civil war.

The ceremonies at the shrine in the northern Baghdad neighborhood of Kazimiyah continued despite the attacks, which Allawi said occurred in three or four neighborhoods at least a mile away.

Shiite pilgrims, wearing white shrouds to symbolize their willingness to die for Islam, chanted "God bless (Prophet) Muhammad and his descendants," as they converged on the area.

Shiites believe that Kadhim, who died in 799, was poisoned in prison by a Sunni caliph. He is buried inside the sprawling golden-domed shrine along with his grandson.

"We heed your call, Oh Imam!" the pilgrims sang before entering the compound, beating their chest and flagellating themselves with steel chains in a traditional Shiite expression of grief.

Last year, the government said about 1,000 people died during the Imam Kadhim commemoration when rumors of suicide bombers triggered a mass stampede on a bridge across the Tigris River. It was the biggest single day death toll since the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003.

Interior Ministry spokesman Col. Saddoun Abu al-Ula said 17 pilgrims were killed during Sunday's attacks. He also said 253 were injured, most in falls as they ran in panic. Police also said four militants, including two snipers, were killed.

"We are responsible to make this work, despite these challenges," Abu al-Ula said. Scores of militants were arrested, including some of those who fired on the pilgrims and others who were planning to, he added.

Reporters saw women in black "abayas," an Islamic female gown, helping each other as they ran for cover. Many took refuge under an overpass, ducking in fear at the sound of gunshots. A cleric in a dark gray robe and white turban, holding a gun, was seen being pushed away from the scene by a security personnel.

"I was walking and someone got shot in front of me. It wasn't random fire, it was a clear sniper attack," said Mohammed Jassim, 32.

He said he could hear the faint crack of the shots despite the noise from the procession. "People panicked and started yelling 'it came from here, no from there.'"

Fadhil al-Sharaa, an aide to Shiite Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki claimed some 1 million people attended the procession, but other officials were more conservative, putting the figure at between 200,000 and 300,000.

Shiites were prevented from mustering huge crowds at religious ceremonies during Saddam Hussein's Sunni-dominated regime. But since Saddam's ouster in 2003, Shiite politicians and religious leaders have encouraged huge turnouts as a demonstration of the majority sect's power.

The Kadhim ritual is taking place during a major U.S.-Iraqi security operation aimed at curbing the Sunni-Shiite violence. Nearly 12,000 U.S. and Iraqi troop reinforcements are coming in to take control of this city of 6 million people neighborhood by neighborhood.

___

 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Deptacon
I have no problem admiting there are mistakes, but I have a problem when peopl cant admit they dont have a better idea besudes cut tail and run.


'cut and run' is nothing more than a bullshit bumper slogan statement.
it means nothing, and nobody has proposed that at all.

Just a mindless statment ment to group and incite the weakminded.

What? its suggested in every thread o nthis forum, and if its not being suggested, WAHT IS? everyone says Iraq is bad, poor planning, poor orgainization, etc etc, but no good plausable solutions, to actually fixing the situation, BESIDES bringing the troops home...
Maybe if things were improvong over there instead of getting worse Americans wouldn't be so pessimistic. Continuing with a horrble plan in light of a better plan is no solution so withdrawing from Iraq seems to be the best idea. Maybe rearm the Sunni's and work covertly with them likw we did with Sadam. It might not be the best for the Iraqi's but having a strongman/dictator in power that is allied with the US likw we have in Pakistan would be best for us.


I dont thin kthe plan over there now is the same as it was 3 years ago, the missions and the day to day mission structure has changed. and I dont think its horrible, its very hard to implement though due to culture and social issues in the region, it would take years and years from democracy to really have a foot hold and be strong there.... I dont thing anything has failed though, its still a work in progress... yes, p[eople are dieing, thats gonna happen, especially in that region, hell, Bosnia STILL isnt stable after all these years.... those people stil lwant to kill each other

There is this impression that many people have that this hwole process should be easy going.... we are changing a govt, changing the way different people (sunni, shite), have the live toghter, thats not goning to go over well. AND ESPEICALLY IN THAT REGION. we are go9ing to and conintue to get a lot of resistence, plus, I think those in the insurgency KNOW about the pessimesitic thougts of many in the states and are playing on that....I think, they believe, that we have no resolve, and will buckle eventually....

Im sorry I wont be a prt of that crap....



So basicaly you are signing up to the continued failure of a policy that is inherently no different than the lost lessons of Vietnam.

Again - we didn't understand the culture there , and instead of taking the time to learn from mistakes and prevent
repeting those mistakes, Rumsfeld & company figured that on the cheap with a fixation of tecno-gadgets would make up for it,
in spite of being told by those who actually had a military background and experience what would happen if not properly scoped.
Eric Shinseki was the only one who's head was put on a pike as an example to all other honest and knowlagable
military leaders as a warning to 'shut up' - the Chicken Hawks and their Neocon agenda will make the decisions
even though they didn't really know diddly-squat about how the military operates, "we're your corporate bosses - do as you're told".
. . and as any good soldier . . . who doesn't want their carrer ruined by petty partisan politics, they did what they were told.
They had seen how respected the decisions by true military commanders were taken by the Bush Sycophants and their yes-boys.



you are 0-3 for uselss posts... post some legitimate commments and arguments like redawn, and stop just broadsiding everything, god, you sound like a borken record...

Blag dubby,

blah rumsfield..

blah..the lies...

blah... the deciption...

blah SHUT UP!

if you dont hav e an educated comment to make, dont speak.... your rehetoric and anti-necon comments are just spewing from every pore....calm down, and make some really arguments....cause right now, everyone is just ignoring you...


I've got your 'shut up' right here.

I am considering that maybe it would be in the best interest of theis countey for the congress to launch an investigation
of why 'aledged military officers' are actively bloging on internet chatrooms to advance a propaganda agenda.
To me it reads of crimimal intent and subversion of military ethics.
After all - it's using military resources against US citizens, already banned under FISA laws.
Think you could stand up to that investigation? I don't think so.



There are no rules or laws against members of the military blogging or posting on fourms... Why would you rather us be silent? is it easier for you spew your crap all over the web when the few people who have actually been there and have seen things first hand can comment on it..... yeah I bet you would love that, you would hate to see your beig fluffed of image of a big conspracy theory to come crashing down, or even better, for use to REALLY make a better place out of Iraq, that would just make you angry.... you just dont like it when someone who has first hand knowledge shoots down your conspriacy theories, and everything isant exactly just the wya you like it...

An investagtion of people using thier freedom of speech (that they first HANDEDly defend) yeah some true person you are.... you spew all this crap about privacy and lies, anbd being decieved, and her you are wanting to investagate people just for using thier freedom of speech. Let your true colors shine eh?

And whats this alleged stuff? do you not believe me or something? why would I make something like that up? i guess i could scan my commission to prove it, but i dont owe you a damn thing, and dont have to prove anything to you, so I will let you just sit there and countine to look like a fool...

Im not pushing any propaganda, I haven't pushed a single policy, just shot down your bashing and broad useless statements that are a dime a dozen on these boards....
 

tommywishbone

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Perhaps the new guys could be used to replace these soldiers & sailors. :(

Four US servicemen killed in Iraq 1 hour, 32 minutes ago, Monday, August 21, 2006.

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The U.S. military said on Monday four U.S. servicemen had been killed in action in Iraq in the past 24 hours.

Two Marines and a sailor were killed on Sunday in the western province of Anbar, where Sunni Arab insurgents are active, the military said in a statement.

U.S. Navy medics serve with the Marines in the desert province.

In another statement, the military said a U.S. serviceman was killed on Monday when the vehicle he was traveling in was hit by a roadside bomb north of Baghdad.

 

Scrooge2

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Man, I wouldn't want to go back to the hell. Just imagine getting back home, then having to go back into that nightmare again...sheesh
 

astrosfan90

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Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Rummy doesn't believe in a large military. You go to war with the army you have. Then use them and abuse them till they are worn out or broken. Remember, technology is more important than boots.

No you obviously have no concept of the new 21st century modular army..... do a little research and read about it. Its a system that works, with less people ,is less bloated (like most govt activities) is more effective, more responsive, faster deploying, and ....dare isay it...cheaper for the taxpayers.....

LARGE COLD WAR ARMIES ARE INEFFECTIVE WItH TODAYS TECHNOLOGY.....but hey what do i know, im not in the army or anything....


In studying the RMA that led to the smaller, more focused groups you're referring to, I don't recall ever reading about destroying troop morale in the manner that this article describes. Care to provide some evidence backing this up as an effective strategy?
 

Deptacon

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Originally posted by: astrosfan90
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Rummy doesn't believe in a large military. You go to war with the army you have. Then use them and abuse them till they are worn out or broken. Remember, technology is more important than boots.

No you obviously have no concept of the new 21st century modular army..... do a little research and read about it. Its a system that works, with less people ,is less bloated (like most govt activities) is more effective, more responsive, faster deploying, and ....dare isay it...cheaper for the taxpayers.....

LARGE COLD WAR ARMIES ARE INEFFECTIVE WItH TODAYS TECHNOLOGY.....but hey what do i know, im not in the army or anything....


In studying the RMA that led to the smaller, more focused groups you're referring to, I don't recall ever reading about destroying troop morale in the manner that this article describes. Care to provide some evidence backing this up as an effective strategy?

what are you refering to? I dont follow...