Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Maybe if things were improvong over there instead of getting worse Americans wouldn't be so pessimistic. Continuing with a horrble plan in light of a better plan is no solution so withdrawing from Iraq seems to be the best idea. Maybe rearm the Sunni's and work covertly with them likw we did with Sadam. It might not be the best for the Iraqi's but having a strongman/dictator in power that is allied with the US likw we have in Pakistan would be best for us.Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: Deptacon
I have no problem admiting there are mistakes, but I have a problem when peopl cant admit they dont have a better idea besudes cut tail and run.
'cut and run' is nothing more than a bullshit bumper slogan statement.
it means nothing, and nobody has proposed that at all.
Just a mindless statment ment to group and incite the weakminded.
What? its suggested in every thread o nthis forum, and if its not being suggested, WAHT IS? everyone says Iraq is bad, poor planning, poor orgainization, etc etc, but no good plausable solutions, to actually fixing the situation, BESIDES bringing the troops home...
I dont thin kthe plan over there now is the same as it was 3 years ago, the missions and the day to day mission structure has changed. and I dont think its horrible, its very hard to implement though due to culture and social issues in the region, it would take years and years from democracy to really have a foot hold and be strong there.... I dont thing anything has failed though, its still a work in progress... yes, p[eople are dieing, thats gonna happen, especially in that region, hell, Bosnia STILL isnt stable after all these years.... those people stil lwant to kill each other
There is this impression that many people have that this hwole process should be easy going.... we are changing a govt, changing the way different people (sunni, shite), have the live toghter, thats not goning to go over well. AND ESPEICALLY IN THAT REGION. we are go9ing to and conintue to get a lot of resistence, plus, I think those in the insurgency KNOW about the pessimesitic thougts of many in the states and are playing on that....I think, they believe, that we have no resolve, and will buckle eventually....
Im sorry I wont be a prt of that crap....
