Capt Caveman
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We are have ~15Mbps standard for cable and ~24Mbps for FiOS here in NYC suburbs. Optimum also has the 100Mbps service for $100, but I actually don't need that kind of speed.
Actually, most Americans aren't demanding that speed, and like everyone said, the rural areas of America make it hard to spread out high speed networks. We can do it, sure, but there seem to be higher priorities for spending for consumers and for government than bleeding edge speed right now. I think the pace at which broadband is being rolled out across the United States is acceptable, and if we want average speeds like Korea and Japan, we'd probably have to pay many times more.
Politics definitely comes into play, and the telephone companies and cable companies would rather not spend their money on upgrading their networks, but there is progress being made, albeit with less haste than countries composed primarily of densely populated cities.
Actually, most Americans aren't demanding that speed, and like everyone said, the rural areas of America make it hard to spread out high speed networks. We can do it, sure, but there seem to be higher priorities for spending for consumers and for government than bleeding edge speed right now. I think the pace at which broadband is being rolled out across the United States is acceptable, and if we want average speeds like Korea and Japan, we'd probably have to pay many times more.
Politics definitely comes into play, and the telephone companies and cable companies would rather not spend their money on upgrading their networks, but there is progress being made, albeit with less haste than countries composed primarily of densely populated cities.
sdifox
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Isn't the majority of Americans still on dial up?
I don't have too much of a problem with what the ISPs are doing, except for the killing of community efforts to setup their own ISP. That should be ground for RICO act. Oh fine, if not RICO at least antitrust. That bullshit should not be happening in "Free Market Economy" </snicker>.
I don't have too much of a problem with what the ISPs are doing, except for the killing of community efforts to setup their own ISP. That should be ground for RICO act. Oh fine, if not RICO at least antitrust. That bullshit should not be happening in "Free Market Economy" </snicker>.
polarmystery
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I remember there was a town somewhere that tried to build their own cable line and the cable company was furious or something. Anybody know where I can find that link, or do they have that link? I think it was in the Carolina's or something?
sdifox
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there has been a few cases, this is the one I could find
http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...-appeals-court-win.ars
humm timewarped gothgar...
Anubis
No Lifer
yes the US is big and has lots of rural areas, HOWEVER that does not change the fact that even in our most populated areas we still have shit for internet speed
Odd - thats what this part of the report implies:
It would actually appear to be related to population density. Granted I do think that we can do much better in terms of speed - but to expect us to be in, say the top 10 would be unrealistic
Originally posted by: rh71
First, I eyeballed it, and second... I said all of Korea.
Hmmm....I wonder what the average speed of internet is in North Korea
That's from 2003, the Atlanta Journal Constitution covered the story at the time.
You can get it from their archives.
Best example is the City of Lafayette Louisiana.
Bellsouth (now AT&T) would not bring in High Speed Internet so the city decised to build it's own Fiber network. Bellsouth sued to stop the project.
After many years delay in the courts Bellsouth lost.
Lafayette now has a kickass Fiber network no thanks to U.S. corporate greed.
sdifox
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http://smlxtralarge.com/2006/1...r-the-right-of-access/
quick google on lafayette internet battle
http://lafayetteprofiber.com/Blog/Blog.html
quick google on lafayette internet battle
http://lafayetteprofiber.com/Blog/Blog.html
Cogman
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Being somewhat familiar with how things work in the telecom industry, it really isn't surprising. The fact of the matter is, the backbone for a higher speed internet in the US simply isn't there. It is being replaced, but it takes a lot of time and money. For the past 10 years now, a company I know of has been burying fiber optics, and they still aren't anywhere near close to getting it completed. And no, they aren't just slacking, there is only so much you can do, and a few months you can do it in (You can't bury cable in the winter time).
Factor that with the fact that the US is one of the largest nations in the world with a fairly spread out population, and several telecoms that spread from coast to coast each giving varying levels of participation, I doubt we will see the us top the charts in internet speed.
Factor that with the fact that the US is one of the largest nations in the world with a fairly spread out population, and several telecoms that spread from coast to coast each giving varying levels of participation, I doubt we will see the us top the charts in internet speed.
MovingTarget
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Not surprising.
Our population density is much smaller so at least we have an excuse. In the end though, it shouldn't be a stumbling block. We need to keep up...
Our population density is much smaller so at least we have an excuse. In the end though, it shouldn't be a stumbling block. We need to keep up...
Comcast has been getting better about this lately with docsis 3, but it took a jolt from Fios to get them to do anything.
EKKC
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i cant wait for fios to come to my neighborhood
seems like thats the only thing verizon is doing right. they're not cheap by any means but gives cable companies some serious competition
cable monopoly has got to end. who cares about public health care, fix the government sanctioned oligopolies!
seems like thats the only thing verizon is doing right. they're not cheap by any means but gives cable companies some serious competition
cable monopoly has got to end. who cares about public health care, fix the government sanctioned oligopolies!
population density, distance, age of existing last mile, etc.
The farther you have to go the more expensive it is. The more distance between subscribers the more expensive it is.
The farther you have to go the more expensive it is. The more distance between subscribers the more expensive it is.
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