US people getting fatter, fast ..

[Amused]

Originally posted by: forrestroche

Originally posted by: Amused
Um, I see a lot of insults, and poisoning of the wells...

I am not surpised... Here are just a FEW of the comments Mr. Amused has directed to me. See anything like that in my posts?

Next time you try pulling something out of your ass, make sure you wipe it off first.

You're just too fscking ignorant to understand that..

But please, feel free to post the entire thing and make a bigger fool of yourself..

You know, if you're going to target someone you don't like and try to "own" them on a message board debate, at least have some fscking ammo

I think people get your point about insults. You made it quite eloquently.

Still have the article if you want it.

Lots of whining, and no substance.

Why? Because you're full of sh!t.

Obesity is not an addiction and is not, in the vast majority of cases, related to eating disorders.

You can whine about it all you want, but you won't change that very simple fact.

And the funniest thing is, even after the article YOU posted proves you wrong, you continue to argue.

BTW, this all started with you calling me "fool," and ignorantly thinking you had trumped me on a previous thread about substance abuse. Or did you forget that?

 

[JungleMan1]

The end-of-the-thread debate aside... the problem is Americans. NOT the fast food joints.

I can walk into Wendy's and buy a grilled chicken sandwich and a fruit cup or even a relatively lean bowl of chili in place of fries, and a diet soft drink or water.

Anyone can.

The problem is that we DON'T because we are accustomed to ordering a burger and fries.

Appetite is not the issue...if you are willing to put the effort in you can eat good, you can eat good on the go. The problem is self-control. No matter how many healthy options are possible, in this age of burgers, fries, and doughnuts everywhere you turn, Americans CHOOSE to opt for foods that used to be once-a-week Sunday treats, every day, sometimes multiple times a day.

 

[forrestroche]

Originally posted by: Amused
...thinking you had trumped me on a previous thread about substance abuse. Or did you forget that?

No, just like then you beat me again. Damn.

 

[forrestroche]

Originally posted by: JungleMan1
The end-of-the-thread debate aside... the problem is Americans. NOT the fast food joints.

...Americans CHOOSE to opt for foods that used to be once-a-week Sunday treats, every day, sometimes multiple times a day.

Yes! A ray of sunshine - Americans - Choices - therein lies the truth.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: forrestroche

Originally posted by: JungleMan1
The end-of-the-thread debate aside... the problem is Americans. NOT the fast food joints.

...Americans CHOOSE to opt for foods that used to be once-a-week Sunday treats, every day, sometimes multiple times a day.

Yes! A ray of sunshine - Americans - Choices - therein lies the truth.

Yep, choices. Who ever said it wasn't a choice?

Our appetites and fat set-points may not be choices, but our activity levels and the types of foods we eat ARE choices.

The problem is, people make it simplistic and say "eat less." It is NOT that easy. It's a mix of activity levels, and eating habits. Not to mention genetics. What works for one person may, and very likely will not work for another because of genetics.

You know, if you actually took time to read the thread, and my posts, you might gain some knowledge instead of jerking your knee and trying to trump me with articles that prove my point.

 

[JungleMan1]

Originally posted by: Amused
Yep, choices. Who ever said it wasn't a choice?

Our appetites and fat set-points may not be choices, but our activity levels and the types of foods we eat ARE choices.

The problem is, people make it simplistic and say "eat less." It is NOT that easy. It's a mix of activity levels, and eating habits. Not to mention genetics. What works for one person may, and very likely will not work for another because of genetics.

You know, if you actually took time to read the thread, and my posts, you might gain some knowledge instead of jerking your knee and trying to trump me with articles that prove my point.

Yep. It's not eating less that's the problem. OK, if absolutely the only things we can eat are burgers, fries, and sugared sodas...then yes, I suppose our only choices would be small portions.

What we don't realize is that we do have more options...they're right in front of you. You can eat a filling meal and still not consume an absurd amount of calories. Learn to bake or grill fish or chicken. Often for lunch or dinner I make a fish filet or two with a side of seasoned rice. Delicious, filling, AND not absurdly calorie-filled.

I usually keep a few grilled chicken breasts already made in my refrigerator. In a matter of minutes I can heat it up in the microwave, throw some lettuce and tomato on top (notice I didn't say cheese), grab a sizable portion of Baked Lays and a Diet Dr. Pepper (it tastes almost exactly like regular). Delicious, filling, and not absurdly calorie-filled.

And I am far from being a chef, trust me...learning how to make simple meals yourself is very easy.

Instead of Krispy Kremes or a sausage/egg biscuit on the way to work, take 5-10 minutes and eat a bowl of cereal and a lowfat yogurt (you could even eat this in the car). Don't give me the excuse "I don't have time". You can surely wake up 10 minutes earlier.

If you're out? Fine. Go to Subway. Go to most any fast food joint and you can order grilled chicken (not fried!). Our local food store makes delicious 8-inch subs for $1.99 which are generally low-ish in fat if you lay off the mayo.

It's not about starving yourself to death...that will just cause you to binge and eat whatever you can find. Eating within your suggested DV and being satisfied is VERY EASY if you are 1) resourceful, and 2) have WILLPOWER.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: JungleMan1

Originally posted by: Amused
Yep, choices. Who ever said it wasn't a choice?

Our appetites and fat set-points may not be choices, but our activity levels and the types of foods we eat ARE choices.

The problem is, people make it simplistic and say "eat less." It is NOT that easy. It's a mix of activity levels, and eating habits. Not to mention genetics. What works for one person may, and very likely will not work for another because of genetics.

You know, if you actually took time to read the thread, and my posts, you might gain some knowledge instead of jerking your knee and trying to trump me with articles that prove my point.

Yep. It's not eating less that's the problem. OK, if absolutely the only things we can eat are burgers, fries, and sugared sodas...then yes, I suppose our only choices would be small portions.

What we don't realize is that we do have more options...they're right in front of you. You can eat a filling meal and still not consume an absurd amount of calories. Learn to bake or grill fish or chicken. Often for lunch or dinner I make a fish filet or two with a side of seasoned rice. Delicious, filling, AND not absurdly calorie-filled.

I usually keep a few grilled chicken breasts already made in my refrigerator. In a matter of minutes I can heat it up in the microwave, throw some lettuce and tomato on top (notice I didn't say cheese), grab a sizable portion of Baked Lays and a Diet Dr. Pepper (it tastes almost exactly like regular). Delicious, filling, and not absurdly calorie-filled.

And I am far from being a chef, trust me...learning how to make simple meals yourself is very easy.

Instead of Krispy Kremes or a sausage/egg biscuit on the way to work, take 5-10 minutes and eat a bowl of cereal and a lowfat yogurt (you could even eat this in the car). Don't give me the excuse "I don't have time". You can surely wake up 10 minutes earlier.

If you're out? Fine. Go to Subway. Go to most any fast food joint and you can order grilled chicken (not fried!). Our local food store makes delicious 8-inch subs for $1.99 which are generally low-ish in fat if you lay off the mayo.

It's not about starving yourself to death...that will just cause you to binge and eat whatever you can find. Eating within your suggested DV and being satisfied is VERY EASY if you are 1) resourceful, and 2) have WILLPOWER.

Getting over the first 2-3 weeks of adjustment is hard for people who overeat though because their stomach have to shrink a little, and there body has to become used to it. Once you do that it is a piece of cake. I feel sick just eating crappy fast food now, or anything that is like that. But most people make excuses because they are "fat" lazy bastards that need an excuse to keep killing themselves and hurting society.

 

[forrestroche]

Listen up everyone!

Originally posted by: DaShen
[...they are "fat" lazy bastards that need an excuse to keep killing themselves and hurting society.

 

[XNice]

Originally posted by: forrestroche

Originally posted by: JungleMan1
The end-of-the-thread debate aside... the problem is Americans. NOT the fast food joints.

...Americans CHOOSE to opt for foods that used to be once-a-week Sunday treats, every day, sometimes multiple times a day.

Yes! A ray of sunshine - Americans - Choices - therein lies the truth.

That is the problem right there.

I lived in philly for all of my undergad years and.... THERE IS ALOT OF FAT PEOPLE THERE. And not just wow u need to los 20 pounds fat, but wow your ankles must be living in hell fat. There is nothing positive about being fat, we are animals and according Darwinism the fat and stupid animals died at the back of the herd and allowed the leaner more capable to keep moving to the front and reproduce. Well not really but survival of the fittest is a better explanation. If you had a choice who would you want reproducing? overly fat or lean people?

ps: im not a fat hater, i like thick girls, i like thin girls, but we all know which we prefer...