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US military deaths in Iraq lowest in 14 months
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Arkaign
Lifer
You seem to ignore that Bush's (primarily due to the dismal support of the mess in Iraq) numbers are at less than 1/3 positive nationwide. This would indicate not that 2/3+ of the country is liberal, but that 2/3 of the country are dissatisfied with what's going on.
You simply can't take the 2/3+ of P&N posters that think that Iraq is an unforgivable disaster, and say that they're all 'liberal', just because they don't agree with you. Many of us are conservative types who want our party back (fat chance, I know). Believe it or not, PNAC and the Neocons are a new, and hopefully temporary blip on the history of the Republican party. Both sides have had their stinkers (LBJ, Nixon, Bush I & II, Clinton), and their winners (Ike, Kennedy).
It seems that your blind adherence to the hard-right party line may be distorting the reality of P&N here. Yes, most people are partisan idiots, but it's a pretty even mix. Just look at any topic OTHER than the Iraq stupidity to see a pretty even exchange, on economics, welfare, health care, and so on. We don't all get along well, of course, but it's a pretty wide net.
nick1985
Lifer
Not agreeing with the Iraq war isnt my basis for determining if people are liberals or not. Hell, even I agree that the war was mismanaged from the start and I do not agree with how Bush is handling it.
If you really think, however, that most posters here arnt liberal then I dont know which site you have been reading
If you really think, however, that most posters here arnt liberal then I dont know which site you have been reading
bamacre
Lifer
Oh yes, let's all dance and drink to the fantastic news that another 70 US Soldiers lost their lives in Iraq in September.
:roll:
:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
If we had our way, that number would be zero. Not 70. That is 70 more families, and 70 more groups of friends that will grieve the loss of a loved-one.
tomywishbone
Golden Member
"US military deaths in Iraq lowest in 14 months"
Isn't that kind of like saying, "Sure I got my ass kicked, I got it kicked real bad, just not as bad as the last time I got my ass kicked. Oh, and by the way, I started the fight."
Isn't that kind of like saying, "Sure I got my ass kicked, I got it kicked real bad, just not as bad as the last time I got my ass kicked. Oh, and by the way, I started the fight."
No you said good news in Iraq doesn't mesh with the liberal philosophy of retreat and that's just plain wrong.
I would just love it if the Iraqis rose up tommorrow and kicked some ass for themselves. It's not our soldiers job to provide them with a democracy. We're supposed to give them the oppotunity to create one and as far as I'm concerned we've done that.
No wrong, PJ is using this by spinning it as evidence the surge is working. We all know the surge is just prolonging the inevitable and is completely ignoring things like Al-sadr halting attacks. Oh no, it's all because Petraeus is a bad ass and the surge rules, :brokenheart:
Doom and gloom isn't a philosophy it's the reality, our mission has failed despite the weekly attempts to redefine its goal and focus. But myself and many others are done with the shifting benchmarks and bs statistics. It's all propaganda to give Bush cover to keep all the troops in until he leaves office and can then retire like the coward pussy he is to his fucking ranch and absolve himself of all responsibility.
Enough of this contrived liberals hate the troops, liberals hate America, liberals want bad news from Iraq.
Anything more than zero deaths per month and zero dollars per month is unacceptable for an unwinnable proposition.
It's always amusing when righties are unintentionally correct while attempting sarcasm.
Just this morning I posted to (Jaskalas or Pabster, I can't tell them apart) about how the right prevents debate with all the 'you hate our troops' and 'you hate America' diversionary lies.
And here we see it again.
They don't realize that it just shows how little they have to say.
Show us the links. Show us even one link of someone admitting he is happier than pigs in shit when they hear bad news from Iraq. I can just as easily accuse you of happily throwing away soldiers lives for your Halliburton stock. It is the same bullshit. You are brainwashed. You see the world through red glasses. Put down the Koolaid and the right wing talking points. Try to see where we are coming from even if you do not agree. ProJo has been lying for Dub since he started here. That is why we rated him down.
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