US Imperialism

[fwtong]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: hatim
America might not be imerialistic, but BUSH is...invading coutries for no reasons :| :| Besides if America tries to capture "stronger" coutries, it will never succeed. This is a nuclear age! ...Besides its only the weaker nations that america is picking on rongly. THE WAR ON "TERROR" IS THE FIRST STEPS TOWARDS IMPERIALISM. "terror" is only a name, in real, USA is trying to conquer the world. Beleive me itll never succeed....

imperialism

n 1: a policy of extending your rule over foreign countries 2: a political orientation that advocates imperial interests 3: any instance of aggressive extension of authority

Bush hasnt extended our rule of law over Iraq. not according to that definition anyway. just because a country invades another doesnt make the invading country an imperialistic nation. if we sought to have Iraq become a permanent part of the US, then that would make us an imperial nation.

Okay, what if we maintain troops there forever and control nearly every aspect of civil life?

That's not imperialism. Turning Iraq into the mideast base for the US Army is called giving Iraqis full soverignty.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: fwtong

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: Genesys

Originally posted by: hatim
America might not be imerialistic, but BUSH is...invading coutries for no reasons :| :| Besides if America tries to capture "stronger" coutries, it will never succeed. This is a nuclear age! ...Besides its only the weaker nations that america is picking on rongly. THE WAR ON "TERROR" IS THE FIRST STEPS TOWARDS IMPERIALISM. "terror" is only a name, in real, USA is trying to conquer the world. Beleive me itll never succeed....

imperialism

n 1: a policy of extending your rule over foreign countries 2: a political orientation that advocates imperial interests 3: any instance of aggressive extension of authority

Bush hasnt extended our rule of law over Iraq. not according to that definition anyway. just because a country invades another doesnt make the invading country an imperialistic nation. if we sought to have Iraq become a permanent part of the US, then that would make us an imperial nation.

Okay, what if we maintain troops there forever and control nearly every aspect of civil life?

That's not imperialism. Turning Iraq into the mideast base for the US Army is called giving Iraqis full soverignty.

:thumbsup:

 

[Doboji]

I whole heartedly concur... Democracy and Freedom are the only acceptable forms of governance... and all others should be crushed, or at least encouraged towards democracy and freedom. And anyone who thinks any other system of governance is truly better... are absolutely retarded. And dont say Socialism... Socialism is a fiscal system, and is not prohibitive of either freedom or democracy.

-Max

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Zephyr106

Originally posted by: djplayx714
After much thought about the state of the world and my ever rising gas totals I fully believe the US should become imperialistic nation (although some would argue it already is) and seize the resources of other nations. It worked well for the Roman and Japanese empires for some time. Granted that many atrocities did occur but in our newly technological age of warfare we only need to ask and threaten in order to take the globe. After all Iraq was taken in less than a week.

Flamesuit on!

Well then you are on the winning side, sir. Some of our nation's finest and most influential political agents are in favor of a New American Imperialism.

Zephyr

And some don't. Still others have been quieted by the rampant, opinion-destructive jingoism that pervades the country now. Being that the constitution says NOTHING which can be construed as "go forth and destroy Evil!(tm) all the while rebuilding countries in thine own image" the fed is acting UNLAWFULLY. Also, I don't see one of these "influential political agents who are in favor of a New American Imperialism" putting their fat asses OR their children on the line for this already failed "idea."

OBTW, it's all well and good to think that the US farts a lavender scent and can do whatever it wants. But as far as I'm concerned, when we fork people over by the millions in the name of "velvet" imperialism, we should be adult enough as a nation to understand that SOME of them are going to find ways to act-out their hatred against us. That means not whining like babies when they kill a few thousand of us, and bleating about saying "We didn't do ANYTHING to deserve this!!!" or "They hate us because we're FREE!!!"

 

[djplayx714]

The only bad thing about taking over the world is that our welfare system will be horrendous. The only time I would think the world would be united under one flag is when aliens attack from outer space like in Independence Day.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Helenihi
You sir, are an idiot.

Thank you Captain Obvious.

Welcome to the thread Master of Understatement.

Personally I think the US should return to our Isolationist (political, not economic) roots and make strong moves towards renewable resources so we can stop giving money to people that hate us.

"so we can stop giving money to people that hate us"

Unfortunately, that is not totally true. They LOVE our money, that's why they own Washington and this is all a pre-planned scam, every bit of it and the Brainwashed Sheep fall for it hook line and sinker.