US guards 'filmed beatings' at terror camp

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Klixxer
The point is, if the US were attacked i would fight for your country and you would run. That is what makes me a soldier and you just another scared individual, hope it never happens though, i doubt mexico would accept you, considering that you do not view human beings as all being equal.

I agree, except when I was a soldier in combat, I was a scared individual too. Whoever says they were in combat and was not scared is lying (not directed at you, just a bad choice of words).


CanO Worms
Sure, doctors save lives, but I wonder when the last time was that a doctor risked his life to save yours? You think an army isn't doing anything for society? If there were no army, there would be no goddamn society.
Yes, alot of people on the street can be soldiers. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Therefore, the one's WHO ARE get my utmost respect, and they deserve yours too. They are protecting this country and they are protecting that doctors right to practice as a free man.

I don't think they do nothing for society. I said everyone contributes. Without the scientist or engineer, those soldiers would be fighting with sticks and rocks.

I think a doctor, scientist, engineer, etc. has more importance to this country than the average soldier. They advance our society in peacetime and in war, and have a more impact on our society. I realize it's probably not a popular view, but like I said, I don't hold some romantic vision like others do.

How is someone fighting in Iraq fighting for me and my society?

I'm just saying it goes both ways and that I don't put them on a special pedestal.

Yet we put our lives on the line for the likes of you. No need to thank anyone for that though, eh? If not for us and people like us you would not be able to argue with me.

People do not enjoy their freedom until it is taken from them.

I guess without people like me, you would be living in the stone age then fighting with rocks and sticks.

I'm not saying they're disgusting or horrible or anything. I'm just saying that I don't worship them or put them up on a high pedestal nor does it give them a shield to hide behind. I think there are people that contribute much more to society and the world. If that means I'm degrading soldiers, then that's that. I don't think I said that, but if you want to believe that, it's ok.

As the Presence said, maybe you should put them on pedestals. Without people like him and me, you would not be able to type your response.

I appreciate your pacifism and your will to stick with that but until the world is less violent, soldiers will be needed.

I'm not even pacifistic. I just think others are more important. I think the weapons developed are more important than another soldier.

You can pat yourself on the back all you want.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
It's a cycle. Without the scientists and engineers, there would be no soldiers then.

Sure there would. They might fight with sticks and stones, but so would the other side. Because on the other side there is another guy arguing just like you.

I just think the average scientist or doctor is more important to this country than the average soldier. Without the economic and scientific advantage this country enjoys, this country would be nothing.

Really? The way I see it, it would be a place to live in freedom. Sure, maybe I'd be growing corn and riding a horse, but I bet I'd be just as happy - or happier. That freedom is ensured by soldiers in an army.

Note, I'm not saying that soldiers are crap.

Glad to hear it.

Well, from the beginning, I've been saying that it's everyone in society. I'm not saying soldiers aren't required. I just believe others are more important to our society, especially in today's age.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Klixxer
The point is, if the US were attacked i would fight for your country and you would run. That is what makes me a soldier and you just another scared individual, hope it never happens though, i doubt mexico would accept you, considering that you do not view human beings as all being equal.

I agree, except when I was a soldier in combat, I was a scared individual too. Whoever says they were in combat and was not scared is lying (not directed at you, just a bad choice of words).


CanO Worms
Sure, doctors save lives, but I wonder when the last time was that a doctor risked his life to save yours? You think an army isn't doing anything for society? If there were no army, there would be no goddamn society.
Yes, alot of people on the street can be soldiers. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Therefore, the one's WHO ARE get my utmost respect, and they deserve yours too. They are protecting this country and they are protecting that doctors right to practice as a free man.

Of course you are correct, i was scared sh!tless when i was in combat. That was not my point though, my point was that he would have fled to wherever he could go and i would have fought for his freedom.

Other than that, nice post, all that you said is true.

I doubt you would fight for my freedom because I'm of an incorrect ethnicity to you.

Anyways, if you think the only way society and the world can be better is through violence, then I pity you.

I belong to the NATO, and yes, i have fought for an attack on your country, didn't see you around though, perhaps you were to busy trying to tell people how they are not equal to you?

Unfortunanly we all live in a society that faces evil and violence, turning your back on it does not make it go away, open your eyes.

That's nice.

I think the greatest strength of the US is its scientific edge.

Can we agree that both is needed in the world the way it is today?

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Klixxer
The point is, if the US were attacked i would fight for your country and you would run. That is what makes me a soldier and you just another scared individual, hope it never happens though, i doubt mexico would accept you, considering that you do not view human beings as all being equal.

I agree, except when I was a soldier in combat, I was a scared individual too. Whoever says they were in combat and was not scared is lying (not directed at you, just a bad choice of words).


CanO Worms
Sure, doctors save lives, but I wonder when the last time was that a doctor risked his life to save yours? You think an army isn't doing anything for society? If there were no army, there would be no goddamn society.
Yes, alot of people on the street can be soldiers. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Therefore, the one's WHO ARE get my utmost respect, and they deserve yours too. They are protecting this country and they are protecting that doctors right to practice as a free man.

Of course you are correct, i was scared sh!tless when i was in combat. That was not my point though, my point was that he would have fled to wherever he could go and i would have fought for his freedom.

Other than that, nice post, all that you said is true.

I doubt you would fight for my freedom because I'm of an incorrect ethnicity to you.

Anyways, if you think the only way society and the world can be better is through violence, then I pity you.

I belong to the NATO, and yes, i have fought for an attack on your country, didn't see you around though, perhaps you were to busy trying to tell people how they are not equal to you?

Unfortunanly we all live in a society that faces evil and violence, turning your back on it does not make it go away, open your eyes.

That's nice.

I think the greatest strength of the US is its scientific edge.

Can we agree that both is needed in the world the way it is today?

I've been saying that everyone is needed in today's society from the very beginning.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Klixxer
The point is, if the US were attacked i would fight for your country and you would run. That is what makes me a soldier and you just another scared individual, hope it never happens though, i doubt mexico would accept you, considering that you do not view human beings as all being equal.

I agree, except when I was a soldier in combat, I was a scared individual too. Whoever says they were in combat and was not scared is lying (not directed at you, just a bad choice of words).


CanO Worms
Sure, doctors save lives, but I wonder when the last time was that a doctor risked his life to save yours? You think an army isn't doing anything for society? If there were no army, there would be no goddamn society.
Yes, alot of people on the street can be soldiers. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Therefore, the one's WHO ARE get my utmost respect, and they deserve yours too. They are protecting this country and they are protecting that doctors right to practice as a free man.

I don't think they do nothing for society. I said everyone contributes. Without the scientist or engineer, those soldiers would be fighting with sticks and rocks.

I think a doctor, scientist, engineer, etc. has more importance to this country than the average soldier. They advance our society in peacetime and in war, and have a more impact on our society. I realize it's probably not a popular view, but like I said, I don't hold some romantic vision like others do.

How is someone fighting in Iraq fighting for me and my society?

I'm just saying it goes both ways and that I don't put them on a special pedestal.

Yet we put our lives on the line for the likes of you. No need to thank anyone for that though, eh? If not for us and people like us you would not be able to argue with me.

People do not enjoy their freedom until it is taken from them.

I guess without people like me, you would be living in the stone age then fighting with rocks and sticks.

I'm not saying they're disgusting or horrible or anything. I'm just saying that I don't worship them or put them up on a high pedestal nor does it give them a shield to hide behind. I think there are people that contribute much more to society and the world. If that means I'm degrading soldiers, then that's that. I don't think I said that, but if you want to believe that, it's ok.

As the Presence said, maybe you should put them on pedestals. Without people like him and me, you would not be able to type your response.

I appreciate your pacifism and your will to stick with that but until the world is less violent, soldiers will be needed.

I'm not even pacifistic. I just think others are more important. I think the weapons developed are more important than another soldier.

You can pat yourself on the back all you want.

You still don't get the point, dead scientists don't do anything, without a country to live in you would not belong to that country, without freedom there would be no argument.

I don't pat myself on my back and i don't expect you to either, what i DO expect is that you appreciate the efforts made by those who have fought for your freedom and remember that others have given their lives or put their lifes on the line so that you can enjoy that freedom.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Klixxer
The point is, if the US were attacked i would fight for your country and you would run. That is what makes me a soldier and you just another scared individual, hope it never happens though, i doubt mexico would accept you, considering that you do not view human beings as all being equal.

I agree, except when I was a soldier in combat, I was a scared individual too. Whoever says they were in combat and was not scared is lying (not directed at you, just a bad choice of words).


CanO Worms
Sure, doctors save lives, but I wonder when the last time was that a doctor risked his life to save yours? You think an army isn't doing anything for society? If there were no army, there would be no goddamn society.
Yes, alot of people on the street can be soldiers. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Therefore, the one's WHO ARE get my utmost respect, and they deserve yours too. They are protecting this country and they are protecting that doctors right to practice as a free man.

I don't think they do nothing for society. I said everyone contributes. Without the scientist or engineer, those soldiers would be fighting with sticks and rocks.

I think a doctor, scientist, engineer, etc. has more importance to this country than the average soldier. They advance our society in peacetime and in war, and have a more impact on our society. I realize it's probably not a popular view, but like I said, I don't hold some romantic vision like others do.

How is someone fighting in Iraq fighting for me and my society?

I'm just saying it goes both ways and that I don't put them on a special pedestal.

Yet we put our lives on the line for the likes of you. No need to thank anyone for that though, eh? If not for us and people like us you would not be able to argue with me.

People do not enjoy their freedom until it is taken from them.

I guess without people like me, you would be living in the stone age then fighting with rocks and sticks.

I'm not saying they're disgusting or horrible or anything. I'm just saying that I don't worship them or put them up on a high pedestal nor does it give them a shield to hide behind. I think there are people that contribute much more to society and the world. If that means I'm degrading soldiers, then that's that. I don't think I said that, but if you want to believe that, it's ok.

As the Presence said, maybe you should put them on pedestals. Without people like him and me, you would not be able to type your response.

I appreciate your pacifism and your will to stick with that but until the world is less violent, soldiers will be needed.

I'm not even pacifistic. I just think others are more important. I think the weapons developed are more important than another soldier.

You can pat yourself on the back all you want.

You still don't get the point, dead scientists don't do anything, without a country to live in you would not belong to that country, without freedom there would be no argument.

I don't pat myself on my back and i don't expect you to either, what i DO expect is that you appreciate the efforts made by those who have fought for your freedom and remember that others have given their lives or put their lifes on the line so that you can enjoy that freedom.

I think in today's age, the scientists are more important than the soldier. The weapons, vehicles, tanks, planes, satellites, etc. are extremely important nowadays. Soldiers don't develop those. Soldiers are much easier to replace than a scientist, engineer, doctor, etc. I know it sounds bad to say it, but I believe it's the truth.

Some argue that the power of the scientist/engineer & technology is pretty well represented in the Cold War. The average soldier didn't do much compared to those involved in obtaining technological advancement over their adversary. That impacted everyone's life.

Just because I say another occupation is more important doesn't mean I don't appreciate people.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Klixxer
The point is, if the US were attacked i would fight for your country and you would run. That is what makes me a soldier and you just another scared individual, hope it never happens though, i doubt mexico would accept you, considering that you do not view human beings as all being equal.

I agree, except when I was a soldier in combat, I was a scared individual too. Whoever says they were in combat and was not scared is lying (not directed at you, just a bad choice of words).


CanO Worms
Sure, doctors save lives, but I wonder when the last time was that a doctor risked his life to save yours? You think an army isn't doing anything for society? If there were no army, there would be no goddamn society.
Yes, alot of people on the street can be soldiers. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Therefore, the one's WHO ARE get my utmost respect, and they deserve yours too. They are protecting this country and they are protecting that doctors right to practice as a free man.

I don't think they do nothing for society. I said everyone contributes. Without the scientist or engineer, those soldiers would be fighting with sticks and rocks.

I think a doctor, scientist, engineer, etc. has more importance to this country than the average soldier. They advance our society in peacetime and in war, and have a more impact on our society. I realize it's probably not a popular view, but like I said, I don't hold some romantic vision like others do.

How is someone fighting in Iraq fighting for me and my society?

I'm just saying it goes both ways and that I don't put them on a special pedestal.

Yet we put our lives on the line for the likes of you. No need to thank anyone for that though, eh? If not for us and people like us you would not be able to argue with me.

People do not enjoy their freedom until it is taken from them.

I guess without people like me, you would be living in the stone age then fighting with rocks and sticks.

I'm not saying they're disgusting or horrible or anything. I'm just saying that I don't worship them or put them up on a high pedestal nor does it give them a shield to hide behind. I think there are people that contribute much more to society and the world. If that means I'm degrading soldiers, then that's that. I don't think I said that, but if you want to believe that, it's ok.

As the Presence said, maybe you should put them on pedestals. Without people like him and me, you would not be able to type your response.

I appreciate your pacifism and your will to stick with that but until the world is less violent, soldiers will be needed.

I'm not even pacifistic. I just think others are more important. I think the weapons developed are more important than another soldier.

You can pat yourself on the back all you want.

You still don't get the point, dead scientists don't do anything, without a country to live in you would not belong to that country, without freedom there would be no argument.

I don't pat myself on my back and i don't expect you to either, what i DO expect is that you appreciate the efforts made by those who have fought for your freedom and remember that others have given their lives or put their lifes on the line so that you can enjoy that freedom.

I think in today's age, the scientists are more important than the soldier. The weapons, vehicles, tanks, planes, satellites, etc. are extremely important nowadays. Soldiers don't develop those. Soldiers are much easier to replace than a scientist, engineer, doctor, etc. I know it sounds bad to say it, but I believe it's the truth.

Some argue that the power of the scientist/engineer & technology is pretty well represented in the Cold War. The average soldier didn't do much compared to those involved in obtaining technological advancement over their adversary. That impacted everyone's life.

Just because I say another occupation is more important doesn't mean I don't appreciate people.

So basically you are saying that technology is more important that lifes, does that include your life or only the lives of those who fight for you?

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Klixxer
The point is, if the US were attacked i would fight for your country and you would run. That is what makes me a soldier and you just another scared individual, hope it never happens though, i doubt mexico would accept you, considering that you do not view human beings as all being equal.

I agree, except when I was a soldier in combat, I was a scared individual too. Whoever says they were in combat and was not scared is lying (not directed at you, just a bad choice of words).


CanO Worms
Sure, doctors save lives, but I wonder when the last time was that a doctor risked his life to save yours? You think an army isn't doing anything for society? If there were no army, there would be no goddamn society.
Yes, alot of people on the street can be soldiers. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Therefore, the one's WHO ARE get my utmost respect, and they deserve yours too. They are protecting this country and they are protecting that doctors right to practice as a free man.

I don't think they do nothing for society. I said everyone contributes. Without the scientist or engineer, those soldiers would be fighting with sticks and rocks.

I think a doctor, scientist, engineer, etc. has more importance to this country than the average soldier. They advance our society in peacetime and in war, and have a more impact on our society. I realize it's probably not a popular view, but like I said, I don't hold some romantic vision like others do.

How is someone fighting in Iraq fighting for me and my society?

I'm just saying it goes both ways and that I don't put them on a special pedestal.

Yet we put our lives on the line for the likes of you. No need to thank anyone for that though, eh? If not for us and people like us you would not be able to argue with me.

People do not enjoy their freedom until it is taken from them.

I guess without people like me, you would be living in the stone age then fighting with rocks and sticks.

I'm not saying they're disgusting or horrible or anything. I'm just saying that I don't worship them or put them up on a high pedestal nor does it give them a shield to hide behind. I think there are people that contribute much more to society and the world. If that means I'm degrading soldiers, then that's that. I don't think I said that, but if you want to believe that, it's ok.

As the Presence said, maybe you should put them on pedestals. Without people like him and me, you would not be able to type your response.

I appreciate your pacifism and your will to stick with that but until the world is less violent, soldiers will be needed.

I'm not even pacifistic. I just think others are more important. I think the weapons developed are more important than another soldier.

You can pat yourself on the back all you want.

You still don't get the point, dead scientists don't do anything, without a country to live in you would not belong to that country, without freedom there would be no argument.

I don't pat myself on my back and i don't expect you to either, what i DO expect is that you appreciate the efforts made by those who have fought for your freedom and remember that others have given their lives or put their lifes on the line so that you can enjoy that freedom.

I think in today's age, the scientists are more important than the soldier. The weapons, vehicles, tanks, planes, satellites, etc. are extremely important nowadays. Soldiers don't develop those. Soldiers are much easier to replace than a scientist, engineer, doctor, etc. I know it sounds bad to say it, but I believe it's the truth.

Some argue that the power of the scientist/engineer & technology is pretty well represented in the Cold War. The average soldier didn't do much compared to those involved in obtaining technological advancement over their adversary. That impacted everyone's life.

Just because I say another occupation is more important doesn't mean I don't appreciate people.

So basically you are saying that technology is more important that lifes, does that include your life or only the lives of those who fight for you?

How did you get such an absurd idea from that post? I'm saying one group's contribution to a country's success seems to be more important nowadays and more difficult to replace.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Klixxer
The point is, if the US were attacked i would fight for your country and you would run. That is what makes me a soldier and you just another scared individual, hope it never happens though, i doubt mexico would accept you, considering that you do not view human beings as all being equal.

I agree, except when I was a soldier in combat, I was a scared individual too. Whoever says they were in combat and was not scared is lying (not directed at you, just a bad choice of words).


CanO Worms
Sure, doctors save lives, but I wonder when the last time was that a doctor risked his life to save yours? You think an army isn't doing anything for society? If there were no army, there would be no goddamn society.
Yes, alot of people on the street can be soldiers. BUT THEY ARE NOT. Therefore, the one's WHO ARE get my utmost respect, and they deserve yours too. They are protecting this country and they are protecting that doctors right to practice as a free man.

I don't think they do nothing for society. I said everyone contributes. Without the scientist or engineer, those soldiers would be fighting with sticks and rocks.

I think a doctor, scientist, engineer, etc. has more importance to this country than the average soldier. They advance our society in peacetime and in war, and have a more impact on our society. I realize it's probably not a popular view, but like I said, I don't hold some romantic vision like others do.

How is someone fighting in Iraq fighting for me and my society?

I'm just saying it goes both ways and that I don't put them on a special pedestal.

Yet we put our lives on the line for the likes of you. No need to thank anyone for that though, eh? If not for us and people like us you would not be able to argue with me.

People do not enjoy their freedom until it is taken from them.

I guess without people like me, you would be living in the stone age then fighting with rocks and sticks.

I'm not saying they're disgusting or horrible or anything. I'm just saying that I don't worship them or put them up on a high pedestal nor does it give them a shield to hide behind. I think there are people that contribute much more to society and the world. If that means I'm degrading soldiers, then that's that. I don't think I said that, but if you want to believe that, it's ok.

As the Presence said, maybe you should put them on pedestals. Without people like him and me, you would not be able to type your response.

I appreciate your pacifism and your will to stick with that but until the world is less violent, soldiers will be needed.

I'm not even pacifistic. I just think others are more important. I think the weapons developed are more important than another soldier.

You can pat yourself on the back all you want.

You still don't get the point, dead scientists don't do anything, without a country to live in you would not belong to that country, without freedom there would be no argument.

I don't pat myself on my back and i don't expect you to either, what i DO expect is that you appreciate the efforts made by those who have fought for your freedom and remember that others have given their lives or put their lifes on the line so that you can enjoy that freedom.

I think in today's age, the scientists are more important than the soldier. The weapons, vehicles, tanks, planes, satellites, etc. are extremely important nowadays. Soldiers don't develop those. Soldiers are much easier to replace than a scientist, engineer, doctor, etc. I know it sounds bad to say it, but I believe it's the truth.

Some argue that the power of the scientist/engineer & technology is pretty well represented in the Cold War. The average soldier didn't do much compared to those involved in obtaining technological advancement over their adversary. That impacted everyone's life.

Just because I say another occupation is more important doesn't mean I don't appreciate people.

So basically you are saying that technology is more important that lifes, does that include your life or only the lives of those who fight for you?

How did you get such an absurd idea from that post? I'm saying one group's contribution to a country's success seems to be more important nowadays and more difficult to replace.

Simple, some contribute with their lives, some contribute with their knowledge. Read your own post, the gist of it is that those who make the weapons are more important than those who use the weapons, meaning that those who sacrifice their lifes for you are less important than the scientist who runs away.

You need to understand that there would be no scientist in your country, there would be no "your country" at all if some people hadn't spilled their blood fighting for it, these are the people who gave their lifes so that you and others could enjoy your freedom.

Without them there would be no need for military scientists because you would not even exist as a country.

Get it?

 

[CanOWorms]

I'm just saying that the contribution of the average scientist is much more so than the contribution of the average soldier. I don't live in a fairy tale world. A soldier is easy to replace & almost anyone can be one. Not so with a doctor. I agree, it doesn't sound nice.

But the advantage our country has now lies solely with our scientific edge, not the amount of soldiers. Who knows, without our scientific advancement, we may not even have a country, too. The entire country doesn't lie in one group's hands.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I'm just saying that the contribution of the average scientist is much more so than the contribution of the average soldier. I don't live in a fairy tale world. A soldier is easy to replace & almost anyone can be one. Not so with a doctor. I agree, it doesn't sound nice.

But the advantage our country has now lies solely with our scientific edge, not the amount of soldiers. Who knows, without our scientific advancement, we may not even have a country, too. The entire country doesn't lie in one group's hands.

And i am saying that without anyone willing to put their life on the line, there would be no use for the weapons.

A working society takes all kinds of people, all equally important because remove the farmers and you will not eat, remove the soldiers and you will not live, remove the doctors and you might die from some disease, remove the techs and eh, well, then stuff that we are used to won't work flawlessly (as if it ever will).

I am saying that there is NO bigger contribution than putting your life on the line for someone, if you disagree with that, well, then i don't have anything else to say.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I'm just saying that the contribution of the average scientist is much more so than the contribution of the average soldier. I don't live in a fairy tale world. A soldier is easy to replace & almost anyone can be one. Not so with a doctor. I agree, it doesn't sound nice.

But the advantage our country has now lies solely with our scientific edge, not the amount of soldiers. Who knows, without our scientific advancement, we may not even have a country, too. The entire country doesn't lie in one group's hands.

And i am saying that without anyone willing to put their life on the line, there would be no use for the weapons.

A working society takes all kinds of people, all equally important because remove the farmers and you will not eat, remove the soldiers and you will not live, remove the doctors and you might die from some disease, remove the techs and eh, well, then stuff that we are used to won't work flawlessly (as if it ever will).

I am saying that there is NO bigger contribution than putting your life on the line for someone, if you disagree with that, well, then i don't have anything else to say.

Personally, that's a big contribution. But I believe in the overall scheme, when you only think of numbers and without feelings in the real world, others have a bigger contribution nowadays.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I'm just saying that the contribution of the average scientist is much more so than the contribution of the average soldier. I don't live in a fairy tale world. A soldier is easy to replace & almost anyone can be one. Not so with a doctor. I agree, it doesn't sound nice.

But the advantage our country has now lies solely with our scientific edge, not the amount of soldiers. Who knows, without our scientific advancement, we may not even have a country, too. The entire country doesn't lie in one group's hands.

And i am saying that without anyone willing to put their life on the line, there would be no use for the weapons.

A working society takes all kinds of people, all equally important because remove the farmers and you will not eat, remove the soldiers and you will not live, remove the doctors and you might die from some disease, remove the techs and eh, well, then stuff that we are used to won't work flawlessly (as if it ever will).

I am saying that there is NO bigger contribution than putting your life on the line for someone, if you disagree with that, well, then i don't have anything else to say.

Personally, that's a big contribution. But I believe in the overall scheme, when you only think of numbers and without feelings in the real world, others have a bigger contribution nowadays.

That is the biggest contribution you can make, to be willing to sacrifice your life for someone elses.

I know you see that too but will never admit it, because if others had not died for you, there would be no need for techs, doctors, scientists or whatever, you would not even exist.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I'm just saying that the contribution of the average scientist is much more so than the contribution of the average soldier. I don't live in a fairy tale world. A soldier is easy to replace & almost anyone can be one. Not so with a doctor. I agree, it doesn't sound nice.

But the advantage our country has now lies solely with our scientific edge, not the amount of soldiers. Who knows, without our scientific advancement, we may not even have a country, too. The entire country doesn't lie in one group's hands.

And i am saying that without anyone willing to put their life on the line, there would be no use for the weapons.

A working society takes all kinds of people, all equally important because remove the farmers and you will not eat, remove the soldiers and you will not live, remove the doctors and you might die from some disease, remove the techs and eh, well, then stuff that we are used to won't work flawlessly (as if it ever will).

I am saying that there is NO bigger contribution than putting your life on the line for someone, if you disagree with that, well, then i don't have anything else to say.

Personally, that's a big contribution. But I believe in the overall scheme, when you only think of numbers and without feelings in the real world, others have a bigger contribution nowadays.

That is the biggest contribution you can make, to be willing to sacrifice your life for someone elses.

I know you see that too but will never admit it, because if others had not died for you, there would be no need for techs, doctors, scientists or whatever, you would not even exist.

Well like I said, personally, that's a big contribution. But to the country & society, thinking only in numbers, others contribute more. I've admitted it several times.

Soldiers are "easier" to replace. If pure soldiers were all that mattered, then China would be the world superpower, but they're not. There's another group that contributes much more there.

We just have different beliefs.