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US F16 Deepest Intrusion into Iran sofar

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I actually don't know what other possibly options there are besides war if things continue on their present course. We're certainly not talking/negotiating with Iran (never have directly), and we're not even participating with the Europeans who are at least trying to hammer out a deal.
 
I hope we dont go into Iran. We are already spread thin with Afghan and Iraq. You think people are talking about the draft now? However improbable the draft is, just think after we get into another war. This is also personal, goddamn Rumsfeld treating soldiers like his own personal bitches, and my bro has another 3.5 years in the USMC. 🙁
 
This is pathetic, seriously what has Iran done to the US, absolutly nothing, have they threatened anybody else, NO, so what if they are developing Nuclear weapons they are allowed to defend their country. America "land of the free" yeah right, you don't even practice what you preach.
All the US is interested in is the Oil and Gas fields this time..they got away with it in Iraq(although I will admit that saddam needed to go) and now want another country to steal from. the Bush administration is nothing but a lying bunch of thieves. I really hope that war can be avoided with Iran and I hope Australia avoids this one!
I really think it is the Bush government that needs to be removed not that of some arab nation or any other that haven't done sh*t lately.
WAKE UP AMERICA
 
Originally posted by: Stumps
This is pathetic, seriously what has Iran done to the US, absolutly nothing, have they threatened anybody else, NO, so what if they are developing Nuclear weapons they are allowed to defend their country. America "land of the free" yeah right, you don't even practice what you preach.
All the US is interested in is the Oil and Gas fields this time..they got away with it in Iraq(although I will admit that saddam needed to go) and now want another country to steal from. the Bush administration is nothing but a lying bunch of thieves. I really hope that war can be avoided with Iran and I hope Australia avoids this one!
I really think it is the Bush government that needs to be removed not that of some arab nation or any other that haven't done sh*t lately.
WAKE UP AMERICA
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You need to LEARN SOME FACTS AND STOP HATING AMERICA. Iran has declared an unofficial war on America a long time ago! It is conducting a secret war against America in Iraq since the invasion.

There is a reason it was part of the Axis of Evil list.

I hope war can be avoided, but we cannot let Iran attack us like this. Its been the main outside force in Iraq in supporting terrorism. Seriously, I don't support any attack on Iran, its just plain dumb.

And WAKE UP, Iran isn't Arab.

America is land of the free, but freedom needs to be protected. Thousands, if not millions have given their lives for America to be the best country in the world, a beacon of light, of freedom. Yeah oil in Iraq blah blah blah .... maybe it doesn't affect you, but ever check the prices at the gas pump lately?

Iran is the chief terrorist sponsor in the world, its a rogue nation trying to aquire nuclear weapons. This cannot be allowed to happen, if it does other nations, such as Egypt and other Arab nations will want nukes as well. It'll spark a nuclear arms race in the middle east! And these tyrannies have a lot of oil money to spend on nukes.

arab nation or any other that haven't done sh*t lately.
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Just because it doesn't make it to your local 10 o'clock news channel doesn't mean it doesn't happen! Your just naive. Seriously, what was it that Syria just did? You surely got that from your local news channel. THE ASSASSINATION OF HARIRI WAS A DIRECT MESSAGE AT AMERICA BY SYRIA.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
I think the Iranian people need a MLK or a Ghandi, not a GWB.
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Those guys can only exist in countries with a modicum of respect for human rights. Otherwise, they end up in jail.
 
Unknown Aircraft Fires Missile in Iran - State TV

STORY

DUBAI (Reuters) - An unknown aircraft fired a missile on Wednesday in a deserted area near the southern city of Dailam in the province of Bushehr where Iran has a nuclear power plant, Iranian state television said.

"A powerful explosion was heard this morning on the outskirts of Dailam in the Bushehr province. Witnesses said the missile was fired from an unknown plane 20 km (12 miles) from the city," Iran's Arabic language Al-Alam said.

There was no immediate reaction from Iranian officials over the blast, Al-Alam said. The report was not carried in Persian media in Iran.

Iran's Russian-built 1,000-megawatt nuclear reactor, its only nuclear power plant, is due to start operating in Bushehr province in late 2005. Dailam is about 100 miles from the nuclear power plant.

U.S. stock futures fell sharply following the news.

"This explosion basically sent chills down the spines of futures traders," said Phil Flynn, senior market analyst at Alaron Trading Corp in Chicago.

Crude oil prices also jumped on the Iran television report.

Tehran on Wednesday accused the United States of using satellites "and other tools" to spy on its nuclear sites, and U.S.-ally Israel said the Islamic republic was just six months away from having the knowledge to build an atomic bomb.

The Israeli warning followed Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites)'s call last week for Iran to abandon any pursuit of nuclear weapons and meet its international obligations if it was to be sure of avoiding conflict.

While Europe has pursued a policy of engagement with Iran, the United States and Israel have taken a more aggressive stance. Washington has said it favors diplomacy but does not rule out any option in stopping Tehran from acquiring nuclear weapons, and Israel has hinted at possible military action.

Senior Israeli security sources denied any Israeli military involvement.

An Israeli air strike on the Iraqi reactor Osiraq in 1981 dealt a severe blow to Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s nuclear program.
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OK, let's get this right.

Iran would fall quickly if they get stupid and brave. Nobody would lift a finger to help, though terrorists would dance in the streets. You always get the audience you deserve, and the crazies are always vigilant.

Pakistan would do nothing, and the Kurds (who hate Turkey, Iran and the rest of Iraq, would back the United states. 40 percent of Turkey are Kurdish, and many in Iran are as well. The younger generation of Iranians are favorable to the United States.

If Israel was attacked, they would destroy Iran from the air, and not need a ground war to blast them into submission (if Iran got that stupid). No country would interfere for fear of the United States spanking them.

Aimster,

The United States can and does monitor much of Iranian airspace, and can tell if they scramble anything of merit. You should either look up U.S. capabilities before commenting, or stay in your lane of knowledge. The F-15's would dominate the air if they so chose. They are undefeated in air-to-air combat. A record that would likely stand if the Iranians wanted to check it out.
 
Originally posted by: maluckey
OK, let's get this right.

Iran would fall quickly if they get stupid and brave. Nobody would lift a finger to help, though terrorists would dance in the streets. You always get the audience you deserve, and the crazies are always vigilant.

Pakistan would do nothing, and the Kurds (who hate Turkey, Iran and the rest of Iraq, would back the United states. 40 percent of Turkey are Kurdish, and many in Iran are as well. The younger generation of Iranians are favorable to the United States.

If Israel was attacked, they would destroy Iran from the air, and not need a ground war to blast them into submission (if Iran got that stupid). No country would interfere for fear of the United States spanking them.

Aimster,

The United States can and does monitor much of Iranian airspace, and can tell if they scramble anything of merit. You should either look up U.S. capabilities before commenting, or stay in your lane of knowledge. The F-15's would dominate the air if they so chose. They are undefeated in air-to-air combat. A record that would likely stand if the Iranians wanted to check it out.
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Thanks for verification of my sig. 😀

 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Stumps
This is pathetic, seriously what has Iran done to the US, absolutly nothing, have they threatened anybody else, NO, so what if they are developing Nuclear weapons they are allowed to defend their country. America "land of the free" yeah right, you don't even practice what you preach.
All the US is interested in is the Oil and Gas fields this time..they got away with it in Iraq(although I will admit that saddam needed to go) and now want another country to steal from. the Bush administration is nothing but a lying bunch of thieves. I really hope that war can be avoided with Iran and I hope Australia avoids this one!
I really think it is the Bush government that needs to be removed not that of some arab nation or any other that haven't done sh*t lately.
WAKE UP AMERICA
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You need to LEARN SOME FACTS AND STOP HATING AMERICA. Iran has declared an unofficial war on America a long time ago! It is conducting a secret war against America in Iraq since the invasion.

There is a reason it was part of the Axis of Evil list.

I hope war can be avoided, but we cannot let Iran attack us like this. Its been the main outside force in Iraq in supporting terrorism. Seriously, I don't support any attack on Iran, its just plain dumb.

And WAKE UP, Iran isn't Arab.

America is land of the free, but freedom needs to be protected. Thousands, if not millions have given their lives for America to be the best country in the world, a beacon of light, of freedom. Yeah oil in Iraq blah blah blah .... maybe it doesn't affect you, but ever check the prices at the gas pump lately?

Iran is the chief terrorist sponsor in the world, its a rogue nation trying to aquire nuclear weapons. This cannot be allowed to happen, if it does other nations, such as Egypt and other Arab nations will want nukes as well. It'll spark a nuclear arms race in the middle east! And these tyrannies have a lot of oil money to spend on nukes.

arab nation or any other that haven't done sh*t lately.
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Just because it doesn't make it to your local 10 o'clock news channel doesn't mean it doesn't happen! Your just naive. Seriously, what was it that Syria just did? You surely got that from your local news channel. THE ASSASSINATION OF HARIRI WAS A DIRECT MESSAGE AT AMERICA BY SYRIA.
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I bolded the only fact in your spewage.

 
The problem is you cannot bomb Iran from the air and not expect them to attack you back.

They have an unknown number of air defense systems from Russia. They also make their own versions of the Russian ground-air missiles. They also copied most of the U.S air-defense systems they had and mass produced them. They have Radar from China/Russia/India.

Iran is not trying to fight U.S jets from the air. If that was the case, they would have ordered better aircraft from Russia. They haven't requested any.

Israel cannot destroy Iran from the air. It is going to have a hard time reaching all parts of Iran and then going back to Israel. Iran is a large country.
On paper land looks small.

What's the difference if Israel bombs Iran or Iran sends a handful of Missiles at Israel every day? They already have troops stationed in Lebanon/Syria. They probably have a good 200-500 missiles capable of reaching Israel. Hezbollah also has 15,000 rockets/missiles able to hit anywhere in Israel.

So an air war is pointless without the ground war.
 
raildogg,

There is NO evidence Syria was behind the attacks. None. Zero.

This attack comes at a time when Israel doesn't want Syria to get Russian weapons.

It could be anyone.
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
um i bet we get bogged down with even more casualties than iraq. perhaps closer to 3,000 to 4,000 with the casualty numbers reaching upwards of 20,000. i would also honestly doubt we could take and hold all of iran within 4 months.
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Two words: Neutron Bombs.

Jason
 
I wish Iran would get with the show and blow a huge hole in the ass of that F16.

If I were Iran President, I sure as heck would not stand for intruders on my turf.
 
Its great that Iran and Syria are forging and alliance.

Let Bush's campaign of tyranny bond together the brothers of the middle east and blow a big hole up bush's rear if he intrudes.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
raildogg,

There is NO evidence Syria was behind the attacks. None. Zero.

This attack comes at a time when Israel doesn't want Syria to get Russian weapons.

It could be anyone.
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Hariri was anti-Syrian, he has been for a long time. He was stirring up hatred for Syria in Lebanon. Everything points to Syria, and so far Syria hasn't even denied it.

Just because you guys don't want it to be Syria, doesn't mean it didn't do it.

this is an interesting article, but doesn't directly blame Syria for Hariri's assassination

I always told you guys Iran and Syria are jointly fighting a secret war against the US, they're basically the same state in terms of foreign policy
 
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Its great that Iran and Syria are forging and alliance.

Let Bush's campaign of tyranny bond together the brothers of the middle east and blow a big hole up bush's rear if he intrudes.
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Yeah hope and pray that America fails. Hope and pray Bush loses. Hope and pray. Good job guys.

Aren't you people ever going to acknowledge Iran and Syria are the most active terrorist sponsors in the world? There is a reason why Iran was on the axis of evil, forget that?

Syria is run by Bathists, the same regime under Saddam which ran Iraq. It is the same bunch of thugs that controlled Iraq for all these years.
 
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: dahunan
I wonder who would side with Iran if we attacked them?

Syria
NORTH KOREA
PAKISTAN

Who else?
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Pakistan no chance in hell. Pakistan is going to sit and watch and not say a word.

Syria is not going to do anything. It seems the U.S is telling Syria to leave Lebanon. The only way Syria would get involved is if they stayed in Lebanon.

North Korean is nothing but "blah blah nuke blah blah nuke"

The rest of the world will just be like Bush = Hitler.
Nobody can mess with the U.S so the U.S does what the U.S wants.
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I hope we don't have to find out..

I wonder what the Muslim Extremists in Pakistan would do if Iran was attacked.. would they possibly overthrow their government and launch an attack on US Soldiers in Iraq?
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Nothing.

Pakistan and Iran are not close.
Pakistan and Afghanistan were like blood brothers. When Afghanistan was attacked the Pakistani people did nothing.
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Shows your grasp of the situation. Afghanis hate Pakistanis. If anything they have much better relationship with India, as does Iran.
 
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: dahunan
I wonder who would side with Iran if we attacked them?

Syria
NORTH KOREA
PAKISTAN

Who else?
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Pakistan no chance in hell. Pakistan is going to sit and watch and not say a word.

Syria is not going to do anything. It seems the U.S is telling Syria to leave Lebanon. The only way Syria would get involved is if they stayed in Lebanon.

North Korean is nothing but "blah blah nuke blah blah nuke"

The rest of the world will just be like Bush = Hitler.
Nobody can mess with the U.S so the U.S does what the U.S wants.
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I hope we don't have to find out..

I wonder what the Muslim Extremists in Pakistan would do if Iran was attacked.. would they possibly overthrow their government and launch an attack on US Soldiers in Iraq?
Click to expand...

Nothing.

Pakistan and Iran are not close.
Pakistan and Afghanistan were like blood brothers. When Afghanistan was attacked the Pakistani people did nothing.
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Shows your grasp of the situation. Afghanis hate Pakistanis. If anything they have much better relationship with India, as does Iran.
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Who are you? Where are you from?
Iran - India > Iran - Pakistan

Pakistan helped the Taliban. They gave them weapons. They gave them money. The Taliban the majority of them were either Pasthoons or people from Pakistan.

Iran attacked the Taliban using the Northern Alliance. Pakistan was for the Taliban.

Iran and India signed an agreement for India to share Iran's bases in the event a war broke out with Pakistan and India.

Shows how much I know ....
 
Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Its great that Iran and Syria are forging and alliance.

Let Bush's campaign of tyranny bond together the brothers of the middle east and blow a big hole up bush's rear if he intrudes.
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Oh man... let's bump this comment up.

 
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