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Well we could just quit buying foreign junk, or buy from the countries where we would be more mutually benefitted from. Seems like we should only do business with non-EU countries since EU countries are so Anti-American. So why should we help their economies?

I have been saying that the USA does too much business with China and we need to do more trade with other countries just to protect our interests.

I guess that is what the USA gets for running to protect Europe every time they need our help. Just let Europeans kill each other next time. Remember that we helped them with the Kosavo problem. Yet we have nothing to show for that. Europe should have repaid us for all the money we spent on that.
 
Originally posted by: piasabird
Well we could just quit buying foreign junk, or buy from the countries where we would be more mutually benefitted from. Seems like we should only do business with non-EU countries since EU countries are so Anti-American. So why should we help their economies?

I have been saying that the USA does too much business with China and we need to do more trade with other countries just to protect our interests.

I guess that is what the USA gets for running to protect Europe every time they need our help. Just let Europeans kill each other next time. Remember that we helped them with the Kosavo problem. Yet we have nothing to show for that. Europe should have repaid us for all the money we spent on that.

Europe is not a country like the U.S. The Kosovo problems was handled within NATO, and NATO has also helped the U.S., especially in Aghanistan. Don't forget that its foreign (to the U.S.) countries that finance much of what the U.S. is doing now, if they stopped accepting (newly printed) dollars for oil for example, what would happen? The U.S, has only itself to blame for how the dollar is doing. Get your budget in balance, and stop waging wars on borrowed money.

 
Nato is a bag of hot air. It is the US Troops that are the real backbone of Nato and you know that. Without the USA there is no NATO. Our troops are protecting and stationed in a lot of these Nato Alliance Countries. The EU is an alliance of Mainly European countries. Their politics are attempting to influence world trade policy against the Trade Policy of the USA. So they should be dealt with as you would any predator. How they are able to do more trade is by accepting our military protection and not spending much on their own military. We are enabling them with the ability to spend more on the economy. So we should pull out our troops from Europe and let them defend themselves. We are spending Billions in Europe for military purposes. So this places us on an uneven playing field. If we could be spending that money on our trade and investing in the USA we could improve our economy.

Can you not see the danger of the USA investing in a country by buying almost all of our foreign goods from China? Tomorrow China could become hardline and close their doors, and stop taking our debt. Cuba did that a few years ago and a lot of American Investors lost lots of money. China is not just buying up our debt, we are also paying them interest. Not only do we pay them a return on our investment, but we are investing in their country by trading with them. It is not the one sided story you make it out to be so get real. There is a real danger to invest too much of our money in any one country. Any ecomomist will tell you not to invest too much money in any one stock or company. It is just too much risk. So I am merely saying we need to diversify a little and start up some relationships with a few other countries. Anytime you put all your eggs in one basket you are asking for trouble.

China is a somewhat corrupt country in many ways if a banking scandal can occur in Japan and cause major problems, the same thing could also happen in China.
 
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
I'm loving buying stuff from thinkgeek.com and amazon.com . Even after shipping items 15,000km it's cheaper to buy t-shirts and books from USA than from home. Keep it up, American "conservatives"!

Sweet. So it looks like our trade deficit will fix itself 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Sweet Lord, it's a gnat's hair under $1.07 US to buy a single Canadian dollar now. At $1.06 it had not been this week in fully 50 years. 1957, oh God.

In the words of the Persian emisary to King Leonidas "This is madness!"

This is HeliBEN!!!

I used to love going to crappy third world countries because the dollar could buy you a crap load of stuff. Looks like that is what the US is aiming for.

 
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Sweet Lord, it's a gnat's hair under $1.07 US to buy a single Canadian dollar now. At $1.06 it had not been this week in fully 50 years. 1957, oh God.

In the words of the Persian emisary to King Leonidas "This is madness!"

This is HeliBEN!!!

I used to love going to crappy third world countries because the dollar could buy you a crap load of stuff. Looks like that is what the US is aiming for.
Since my post, the dollar has slipped further. It was 1.068x and now is 1.069x US required to buy a Canadian buck now.

 
I'm really surprised to see so many Americans completly indifferent to their dollar imploding. Sure, US exports are rising due to this change, but the US is a net importing country, China has the yuan pegged to the US dollar making any weak dollar benefits null, and it would be madness to invest in US assets right now. I learned the hard way 2 years ago, when I bought into US stocks only to see my money go down 15% solely on the fact that I was holding them in US dollars. All Canadian and Euro now, and any savvy investors knows to put their money in foreign funds.

At this point, the US dollar isn't even being accepted in many places in Canada anymore. Add to this the current credit crunch fiasco with the feds trying to bail the banks with interest cuts, and you have a recipe for total economic disaster. All it takes is China making a bold move such as stopping to trade in US dollars, and buying US debt.
 
Originally posted by: Firebot
I'm really surprised to see so many Americans completly indifferent to their dollar imploding. Sure, US exports are rising due to this change, but the US is a net importing country, China has the yuan pegged to the US dollar making any weak dollar benefits null, and it would be madness to invest in US assets right now. I learned the hard way 2 years ago, when I bought into US stocks only to see my money go down 15% solely on the fact that I was holding them in US dollars. All Canadian and Euro now, and any savvy investors knows to put their money in foreign funds.

At this point, the US dollar isn't even being accepted in many places in Canada anymore. Add to this the current credit crunch fiasco with the feds trying to bail the banks with interest cuts, and you have a recipe for total economic disaster. All it takes is China making a bold move such as stopping to trade in US dollars, and buying US debt.
Me, too. Nobody I know gives the faintest damn about it, and that's the truth.

I still don't even know what it means. I'd love a wikipedia-esque site that details the pros and cons without being too alarmist or pro/anti US dollar or whatever but I don't even know where to search or begin. I'd like to know:

1) Why it's falling
2) What the implication is
3) What the future likely holds for it and how it ties into the economy

 
Originally posted by: piasabird
Nato is a bag of hot air. It is the US Troops that are the real backbone of Nato and you know that. Without the USA there is no NATO. Our troops are protecting and stationed in a lot of these Nato Alliance Countries. The EU is an alliance of Mainly European countries. Their politics are attempting to influence world trade policy against the Trade Policy of the USA. So they should be dealt with as you would any predator. How they are able to do more trade is by accepting our military protection and not spending much on their own military. We are enabling them with the ability to spend more on the economy. So we should pull out our troops from Europe and let them defend themselves. We are spending Billions in Europe for military purposes. So this places us on an uneven playing field. If we could be spending that money on our trade and investing in the USA we could improve our economy.

Yes, we both know that the U.S. is the largest milltary spender by a large margin on the planet earth. In fact you do almost half of alle the worlds spending on military. I doubt very much that this is because others sees it as necessary. Its 100% voluntarly, and i don't think anyone outside the U.S. would object (exept the arms dealers) if you cut it to a fraction of what it is now. Please pull your troops out of Europe, its long overdue.


Originally posted by: piasabird
"Can you not see the danger of the USA investing in a country by buying almost all of our foreign goods from China? Tomorrow China could become hardline and close their doors, and stop taking our debt. Cuba did that a few years ago and a lot of American Investors lost lots of money. China is not just buying up our debt, we are also paying them interest. Not only do we pay them a return on our investment, but we are investing in their country by trading with them. It is not the one sided story you make it out to be so get real. There is a real danger to invest too much of our money in any one country. Any ecomomist will tell you not to invest too much money in any one stock or company. It is just too much risk. So I am merely saying we need to diversify a little and start up some relationships with a few other countries. Anytime you put all your eggs in one basket you are asking for trouble.

China is a somewhat corrupt country in many ways if a banking scandal can occur in Japan and cause major problems, the same thing could also happen in China.


Your biggeste problem is not the investment in China, but that a large part of it is made with "credit card" that ultimately has to be paid back some day. Your spending, and sending the bill to your children. The only thing that will solve this problem is less spending, and the military budget would seem a natural place to start.

 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I still don't even know what it means. I'd love a wikipedia-esque site that details the pros and cons without being too alarmist or pro/anti US dollar or whatever but I don't even know where to search or begin. I'd like to know:

1) Why it's falling
2) What the implication is
3) What the future likely holds for it and how it ties into the economy

Google is your friend

http://www.google.com/search?h...ing&btnG=Google+Search
 
Originally posted by: CyberDuck
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I still don't even know what it means. I'd love a wikipedia-esque site that details the pros and cons without being too alarmist or pro/anti US dollar or whatever but I don't even know where to search or begin. I'd like to know:

1) Why it's falling
2) What the implication is
3) What the future likely holds for it and how it ties into the economy

Google is your friend

http://www.google.com/search?h...ing&btnG=Google+Search
Google :heart:

Anyway, it now takes 1.0702 US dollars to buy a Canadian! Holy smokes!

 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: CyberDuck
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I still don't even know what it means. I'd love a wikipedia-esque site that details the pros and cons without being too alarmist or pro/anti US dollar or whatever but I don't even know where to search or begin. I'd like to know:

1) Why it's falling
2) What the implication is
3) What the future likely holds for it and how it ties into the economy

Google is your friend

http://www.google.com/search?h...ing&btnG=Google+Search
Google :heart:

Anyway, it now takes 1.0702 US dollars to buy a Canadian! Holy smokes!

IMO, chalk a big share of this to the Iraq war. We don't fully count the costs of it in our accounting, but the rest of the world doesn't have to fall for smoke and mirrors. People are looking at the US as being a poor investment, and there are other viable currencies and economies.

My 401K doesn't let me invest in metals, so I've done the next best thing and switched over to foreign funds.
 
Our dollar is dropping, so let's increase foreign aid....

We have this from the the head of the World Bank:

" Robert Zoellick, president of the World Bank, said that the bank's help for the poorest countries should be coupled with expanded aid to China and other "middle income" nations coping with problems resulting from their fast-growing economies."
Link


So we have a communist country that sits on huge U.S. dollar reserves, until it dumps them real soon, or buys our assets ( I know I would), and this dude wants U.S. tax dollars to help them out.

This should be a chapter Orwell's book 1984.

At least we are not the only dumbasses, Canada does it too. I love what Aileen Carroll says below. She can't be that naive. Kickbacks anyone?

Canada aid to China

A Conservative MP says it's time to "turn off the tap" of Canadian foreign aid to China.
Canada has given China over $1 billion in aid over a decade and will contribute $50 million this year, Tory MP Helena Guergis said in media release on Thursday.

"Every dollar that Canada gives to China, no matter how well intended, is a dollar that the Chinese government can spend on its military, space program and propping up other corrupt and abusive regimes like North Korea or Zimbabwe," she said.

Guergis asked why the Liberal government is giving money to a country that:

Has the biggest army in the world.
Abuses human rights.
Has the second-largest economy in the world.
Has a space program.
Has a nuclear-weapons program.
China doesn't need Canadian aid, and has even been trying to buy up Canadian companies, she said.


FROM SEPT. 24, 2004: China Minmetals in exclusive talks to buy Noranda

Earlier this year, Minister of International Cooperation Aileen Carroll refused to end aid to China. "No, I will not," she said in response to a question in the House of Commons.

"China influences hugely and will continue to influence the international scene. As such, it is very much incumbent on Canada to continue to work with the groups to build freedom in that country, to develop human rights and to develop a rules-based society ...

"We are helping China grow and influence it in the right way."

On its website, the Canadian International Development Agency says aid to China is necessary because, despite its progress, it still contains 20 per cent of the world's poor and "some of the earth's most severe environmental problems."

Inequality between rural and urban areas, particularly in western China where women and ethnic minorities are "disproportionately affected," means "targeted measures are needed to address these imbalances."

The last shipment of UN food aid to China, wheat donated by Canada, reached the country in April.

China is now being encouraged to become a food donor.

"We need China's help and resources to apply the crucial lessons learned here to other countries still struggling with hunger," James Morris, executive director of the UN's World Food Program, said in a release announcing the final shipment to China."



The answer to 1984 is 1776

 
Those are good points, China doesn't need the money. It is the third largest economy, though, not second (Japan is second)!
 
Originally posted by: Legend
I'm diversified over Europe, Asia, and emerging markets. I don't have much domestic stock. My large cap domestic is mostly vanguard wellington, which will ride the inflation wave with it's bonds. So personally I'm not too concerned about my assets, but this isn't great for me indirectly.

PRLAX, NTDOY, VEURX, KMTUY, BHP, and MR are the foreign exposure for my mom's portfolio.
I think I'm somewhere in between 65-70% International(includes Emerging Markets) for her from the last re-balancing I did on July 4th.

I'm still looking for a South Korean company to buy for currency hedging, but haven't found any yet.
Naturally PKX would be the stock of choice, but I think I'm already over diversified in metals and commodities as it is.
 
Last week I went shopping and received some Change. When I got home and emptied the Change from my wallet, I felt ripped off when a US Nickel dropped out. Just a few months ago a Canadian Store wouldn't even consider giving US change out, but now that things have turned around they'll likely get rid of it as fast as they can.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Those are good points, China doesn't need the money. It is the third largest economy, though, not second (Japan is second)!


At PPP is already the second:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...tries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29

And I find quite odd how so many people here blame the EU about the falling dollar. It is not the Euro rising, it's the US dollar falling! The Euro/Swiss Frank has been quite stable, as it has been the Euro/Pound.

The US dollar is falling basically against everything else (especially against emerging markets' currencies) due to American monetary and economic policies.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Those are good points, China doesn't need the money. It is the third largest economy, though, not second (Japan is second)!

I wasn't aware that China has already overtaken Germany in GDP value.
I know they drove past the UK this summer though.
 
Originally posted by: Tango
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Those are good points, China doesn't need the money. It is the third largest economy, though, not second (Japan is second)!


At PPP is already the second:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...tries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29

And I find quite odd how so many people here blame the EU about the falling dollar. It is not the Euro rising, it's the US dollar falling! The Euro/Swiss Frank has been quite stable, as it has been the Euro/Pound.

The US dollar is falling basically against everything else (especially against emerging markets' currencies) due to American monetary and economic policies.

The only person blaming Europe for the US dollar woes is piasabird, who seems to have the intellect of Dave regarding economics.

Your last paragraph pretty much hit the nail on the head.
 
It's the rise of the Red Empire. With PetroChina expected to overtake Exxon-Mobil market-value wise this week, China will now have 5 of the 10 largest corporations in the world.
 
I dunno, they're saying that the $CDN has overshot, but then people are saying that it will be worth $1.10US pretty soon...

IMO the US dollar is just in a temporary funk right now. Give it a year and things will get ironed out. When is the US election again? It might be fun to buy some US currency. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Those are good points, China doesn't need the money. It is the third largest economy, though, not second (Japan is second)!

I wasn't aware that China has already overtaken Germany in GDP value.
I know they drove past the UK this summer though.
1-2 weeks ago I read it was about to or was poised to.

PPP aside, by this measure of GDP in 2006 it was just behind Germany, but by the same measure soon (or now...) is third behind Japan!

I dunno, they're saying that the $CDN has overshot, but then people are saying that it will be worth $1.10US pretty soon...

People don't know anything until it happens; predictions are hard! Today, right now, $1.0778 US to buy a CAN dollar, HA! That sucks! I have $1500 on a Canadian credit card that I just cannot see paying $1650 for. I will do minimum unitl the US dollar either dies and I move back to Canada or it strengthens up again 🙂
 
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I dunno, they're saying that the $CDN has overshot, but then people are saying that it will be worth $1.10US pretty soon...

IMO the US dollar is just in a temporary funk right now. Give it a year and things will get ironed out. When is the US election again? It might be fun to buy some US currency. 🙂

What on earth do you base that thinking on? The next bubble for the dollar will be hyperinflation ie further weakening.
 
Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I dunno, they're saying that the $CDN has overshot, but then people are saying that it will be worth $1.10US pretty soon...

IMO the US dollar is just in a temporary funk right now. Give it a year and things will get ironed out. When is the US election again? It might be fun to buy some US currency. 🙂

What on earth do you base that thinking on? The next bubble for the dollar will be hyperinflation ie further weakening.

I think what he's saying is...this too shall pass. It always does. It's like stock market corrections. Most intelligence in the finance world predict a 10-15% drop, I think 15-20%. Its not the end of the world.
 
Need to shove more money into my China fund. Effing thing is up 50% this year and I dont think it is going to stop.
 
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