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burnedout

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I been thinking of joining up, but haven't talked to a recruiter yet. Any one know what the physical requirements are for enlisting?
Physical requirements have changed since I joined. But, if I'm not mistaken, you must be able to run a mile and do 18 pushups within the first week of basic. Those who fail go to a rehab type of platoon for a couple weeks, if I heard right. When I joined in '80, essentially, all one had to be able to do was walk. Talk to someone who finished basic recently. I served 1980-2000.

The only person that can give you guarantees are the counselors at the military entrance processing station. They are the ones who make the contracts.
Yep, this is true. The MEPS counselors make the guarantees in writing. Field recruiters shouldn't attempt promises as this was considered an impropriety when I was behind the pressure plate.

I had a POS called VEAP that you had to pay $2700. into, so I have nothing.
So did I...... until I was "grandfathered" in to the newer GI Bill. Originally paid in $2700 and was to receive $5400 plus a $6000 kicker for a high ASVAB for a total of $14,100. One day in '97, this E-8, who was waiting around for retirement, was working for the unit E-9 or CSM. He went around to us oldtimers asking if we wanted to go up to the Ed Center and convert over. I said "hell yes" and jumped on it that day. Received my $2700 back and then had $100 per month taken out for a year. Have $21,600 in my account at the moment. Haven't used a penny of it yet and have taken nearly 60 hours since retirement on my dime as well as my employer's. Saving the GI Bill up for something else later. Still have 7 years and 10 months to use it.

When I talk about having more discipline, I say it from the standpoint that I was a typical, partying college student that cared more about where the next party was and was satisfied with making barely passing grades. The Army taught me to accept nothing but the best performance from myself and to continually keep pushing to exceed high standards.
Same here. I work at least 40 hours a week and take between 10-15 hours per semester. Wish I would have had the same discipline back in '79. Last semester, I completed 13 sh with a 3.76 GPA. Summer semester saw 9 sh and a 4.0 GPA. Currently enrolled in 15 sh.
 

wiredspider

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I should probably start another thread, but just wondering what scores people got on their ASVAB. I think the lowest to get into the military is 32 and when I got my scores back, I actually saw someone had gotten a 31(this was at a high school...). Says that much about my high school...
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: lowtech
Originally posted by: Emveach
I been thinking of joining up, but haven't talked to a recruiter yet. Any one know what the physical requirements are for enlisting?
Why would you want to become Bush henchmen & a murderer?

What are you going to accomplish in Iraq that you can?t do it at home to make yourself & family proud of you?

Doesn?t your parents, siblings, and friends want to spend time with you and loving your?

Why do you want to volunteer to be a murder when your friends & family aren?t in danger or threaten?

Hayabusarider said someting I that I saved in a "cool quotes" file I have. I think you should read it (I hope he doesn't mind that I post it). Take note that he was responding to another quote so some of the things are out of context because of it, but the basic message stands.

There is the saying "sharper than a serpent's tooth is an ungrateful child"
I do agree that vets can sometimes come down hard on those who never saw combat or even service. Let me see if I give you a perspective that every vet may not share, but I would not say is inappropriate.

Imagine yourself back in the days of Vietnam. In the beginning, it was honorable to go. You were serving your country, you did your duty. You had no idea what sh!t you were going to. What you got was something not found in novels describing the glory of war to say the least. By the time the war wound down, the American people were sick of getting body bags and no sense there was ever a purpose to the war. Soldiers returning, wanting not glory, but just to get on with their lives found that their own people hated them as much as the enemy. There was no rest from their misery. Still soldiers went over, knowing some of it, but you never really know. They had heard the horror stories of atrocities committed by soldiers, and were not going to get involved in that. Guess what? You still went where you were told, did what you did, because it isn?t a democracy in the military. One day you may go into a village, and here comes a child towards you. You smile towards it, then someone puts a bullet into her head. You scream and want to shoot the fckr who committed the outrage. That?s when you learned that someone sent this six year girl out with enough explosive charges on her body to blow you and your friends up; Someone killed a child that you and your friends could live. You vomit and vomit, and you justify it. Maybe you would have taken the chance, but what about the others who depended on you. Every night you see her for a while, but it happens less and less. You get less and less sensitive to it. You eat among the bodies and joke sitting in the company of the dead. Some never get used to it completely though. Nobody wants to dwell on it. Hardly does any good now does it?
Well the time comes and our soldier comes home. He knows the welcome he will get, but he has one consolation. He can think that he suffered so another did not, and that by god the next generation wont. The problem now is that the next generation or two has no idea what it was like, Few who served in the Gulf war knew it as bad, but every soldier knows what their duty is. The young today have no idea what a war is, except in theory. No experience with it, did not even live through the times when the body count was posted on the nightly news. No context at all. Everything is taken for granted. They are indeed thankless, or at least incapable of fully grasping what has been handed to them. What can set an old soldier off though is listening to people rant on about the service, never distinguishing between those who make policy and those who have to live with them. Regulations aren?t made by soldiers who serve in harms way. I think it is the carelessness of those criticizing that sets people off. Don?t like the policy? Yes go after it; but don?t say the damned military or some such thing, because the military is a whole lot of people, including those who were or might be shot at. I am not speaking for HappyPuppy, because everyone has different reasons and experiences, but I know it is true for some.

I bolded the important part.
 

Grminalac

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Its just like that movie stripes. Why before too long you'll be having a jolly old time causing a ruckus. Making ol' Sarge angry, but you know deep down hes laughing inside....

 

SlowSS

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Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Based on your posts so far, I really doubt you've been in the Navy, but I can't really comment on the Navy because I know little about it. If you want to argue about the Navy, do it with Dave Sohmer, not me

How the fsck did I get drug into this. :cool: The education benefits/programs have changed a lot over the years. I had a POS called VEAP that you had to pay $2700. into, so I have nothing.

Emveach - I think you would be smart to take the ASVAB and find out what each of the services has to offer. If you have any questions about the Navy, I'll try to answer them.

lowtech - Ssshhhh.

I don't want to sound like I'm gloating anything....My Vietnam era G.I. Bill got converted to Montgomery GI bill, so I didn't have to pay for anything.
I've been attending a college for last two years to get two more degrees to complement my Aeronautical degree, but I still haven't touched
My G.I. Bill. VA's VOC REHAP program has been paying for my tuitions and books and I still have 3 full years of G.I. Bill left.

Emveach...As for joining Army.....

Do some homework and find out specifics of each MOS, hopefully you'll find something that might interest you. Also, lot of technical field has signing bonuses and re-enlist bonueses.
I'm not saying sign up for money, but if you find a field that you want to get into and it offers bonuses, it's all good. Finally, when you decide to sign the papers, make sure you have
everything in writing, Verbal contract is no good, get it in writing. Good Luck to you.

 

Andrew111

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Originally posted by: SlowSS
Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
Based on your posts so far, I really doubt you've been in the Navy, but I can't really comment on the Navy because I know little about it. If you want to argue about the Navy, do it with Dave Sohmer, not me

How the fsck did I get drug into this. :cool: The education benefits/programs have changed a lot over the years. I had a POS called VEAP that you had to pay $2700. into, so I have nothing.

Emveach - I think you would be smart to take the ASVAB and find out what each of the services has to offer. If you have any questions about the Navy, I'll try to answer them.

lowtech - Ssshhhh.

I don't want to sound like I'm gloating anything....My Vietnam era G.I. Bill got converted to Montgomery GI bill, so I didn't have to pay for anything.
I've been attending a college for last two years to get two more degrees to complement my Aeronautical degree, but I still haven't touched
My G.I. Bill. VA's VOC REHAP program has been paying for my tuitions and books and I still have 3 full years of G.I. Bill left.

Emveach...As for joining Army.....

Do some homework and find out specifics of each MOS, hopefully you'll find something that might interest you. Also, lot of technical field has signing bonuses and re-enlist bonueses.
I'm not saying sign up for money, but if you find a field that you want to get into and it offers bonuses, it's all good. Finally, when you decide to sign the papers, make sure you have
everything in writing, Verbal contract is no good, get it in writing. Good Luck to you.
Bonuses are mainly offered for those jobs the Army is having a hard time filling, so I definitely wouldn't want to base an MOS choice on that. The highly sought jobs most likely will have no bonus offered.

PS: Which one of you hooligans posted on my websites forum asking if Pink is hot?:D
 

911paramedic

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I belong to an online gamers group that plays Americas Army. We are all vets or active duty, and it is a great group of guys (and a few women). Post a message on our forum and you will get more than enough information about what to expect and what to ask for.

http://1st-vets.net/, go to the forums to post, I am pretty sure you can do it without registering or anything. We have members from all branches and even NATO members there, you will learn a lot from them. Our members range from retired Captains in the Navy, active duty Army Master Sergeants, Marine personnel, Coast Guard, Air Force, all the way down to privates.. If you are looking for advice or information, I can't think about a better place to go.

(1VB)SARmedic on the forums there. (USN vet)

EDIT: We even have active duty recruiters that can give you pointers.