• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

US Army recruiter tells kid to fake HS diploma

D

dardin211

Senior member
Full story: http://news4colorado.com/localnews/local_story_118125046.html

McSwane contacted his local army recruiting office in Golden with a scenario he created. He told a recruiter that he was a dropout and didn't have a high school diploma.

"No problem," the recruiter explained. He suggested that McSwane create a fake diploma from a non-existent school.

McSwane recorded the recruiter saying that on the phone.

"It can be like Faith Hill Baptist School or something -- whatever you choose," the recruiter said.

As instructed, McSwane went on the computer to a Web site and for $200 arranged to have a phony diploma created that certified him as a graduate of Faith Hill Baptist High School, the very name the recruiter suggested. It came complete with a fake grade transcript.
Click to expand...

I know recruiters bend the truth about the military itself when recruiting, make it out to be all wonderful and fun, but now they are helping kids lie and cheat just to get in?

This sure does not set a good example for the young kids they are recruiting, basically teaching them it's ok to lie and cheat in the military to meet your goals. This is pretty sad. One smart kid though, he tested the system and then exposed it.
 
Originally posted by: dardin211
Full story: http://news4colorado.com/localnews/local_story_118125046.html

McSwane contacted his local army recruiting office in Golden with a scenario he created. He told a recruiter that he was a dropout and didn't have a high school diploma.

"No problem," the recruiter explained. He suggested that McSwane create a fake diploma from a non-existent school.

McSwane recorded the recruiter saying that on the phone.

"It can be like Faith Hill Baptist School or something -- whatever you choose," the recruiter said.

As instructed, McSwane went on the computer to a Web site and for $200 arranged to have a phony diploma created that certified him as a graduate of Faith Hill Baptist High School, the very name the recruiter suggested. It came complete with a fake grade transcript.
Click to expand...

I know recruiters bend the truth about the military itself when recruiting, make it out to be all wonderful and fun, but now they are helping kids lie and cheat just to get in?

This sure does not set a good example for the young kids they are recruiting, basically teaching them it's ok to lie and cheat in the military to meet your goals. This is pretty sad. One smart kid though, he tested the system and then exposed it.
Click to expand...

dont let one bad apple spoil the basket

 
That kid will fit right in with the rest of the heroes fighting in Iraq. :roll:
 
There is nothing new here.

I've heard many stories of people doing the same thing during WWII, Korea and Viet Nam.
 
since when do you need a diploma to join the army?

last i checked (here at least) all you need is grade 10. - or maybe that's just for reserves.. I forget.
 
Originally posted by: dardin211
Full story: http://news4colorado.com/localnews/local_story_118125046.html

McSwane contacted his local army recruiting office in Golden with a scenario he created. He told a recruiter that he was a dropout and didn't have a high school diploma.

"No problem," the recruiter explained. He suggested that McSwane create a fake diploma from a non-existent school.

McSwane recorded the recruiter saying that on the phone.

"It can be like Faith Hill Baptist School or something -- whatever you choose," the recruiter said.

As instructed, McSwane went on the computer to a Web site and for $200 arranged to have a phony diploma created that certified him as a graduate of Faith Hill Baptist High School, the very name the recruiter suggested. It came complete with a fake grade transcript.
Click to expand...

I know recruiters bend the truth about the military itself when recruiting, make it out to be all wonderful and fun, but now they are helping kids lie and cheat just to get in?
Click to expand...


Please back that statement up. You just stated that recruiters in general lie, and I will have to disagree.
 
You gotta know that recruitment numbers falling short are putting the screws to many recruiters, and will be put in their service jacket as a "did not perform to standards" black mark.
 
Originally posted by: Colt45
since when do you need a diploma to join the army?

last i checked (here at least) all you need is grade 10. - or maybe that's just for reserves.. I forget.
Click to expand...

GED is all you need
 
Originally posted by: catnap1972
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

On behalf of Conjur, let me say this:

This is all Bush's fault!

Jason
Click to expand...

We all knew you'd see the light sooner or later 😉
Click to expand...


Hey, you misquoted me 🙂 FIXED!!

Bush is a moron and a piss-poor president, but you still can't blame him for everything 😉

Jason
 
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: catnap1972
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

On behalf of Conjur, let me say this:

This is all Bush's fault!

Jason
Click to expand...

We all knew you'd see the light sooner or later 😉
Click to expand...


Hey, you misquoted me 🙂 FIXED!!

Bush is a moron and a piss-poor president, but you still can't blame him for everything 😉

Jason
Click to expand...

That's true. Can't blame him for all the retards voting for him. 😉
 
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Quotas??
Click to expand...
Why aren't they setting up recruiting booths outside fundie churches? The pro-life people are quite pro-war. They should be champing at the bit to sign up and go kill some Eye-RACK-ees
 
when my g/f joined the navy the recruiter told her how to beat the urinanalysis test. his pill didn't work and she was sent to SEPS(?) for a week then sent home. i'm glad she got kicked out as 2 months later was 9/11.
 
Back when I was in high school, I remember some of my friends getting some special treatment about mary-jane smoking... I remember specifically one recruiter actually asking one of my friends if he smoked any weed recently to fail a drug test and if he did, they could delay his date by a few days or something.
 
Wow, the trolls cant even stay on topic for five minutes without all kinds of retarded religious and Bush bashing.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Quotas??
Click to expand...
Why aren't they setting up recruiting booths outside fundie churches? The pro-life people are quite pro-war. They should be champing at the bit to sign up and go kill some Eye-RACK-ees
Click to expand...


we dont go over there to kill Eye-RACK-ees.... nevemrind, im not even gonna get started, im getting sick of reading this garbage in here and tryign to respond to it
 
I wasn't allowed into the AF because it showed I had done drugs other than marijuana on my medical record. I didn't know that would have been a factor, but at the time I couldn't pass a piss test and was worried about that and so my recruiter offered to move it to a later date.
 
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: dardin211
Full story: http://news4colorado.com/localnews/local_story_118125046.html

McSwane contacted his local army recruiting office in Golden with a scenario he created. He told a recruiter that he was a dropout and didn't have a high school diploma.

"No problem," the recruiter explained. He suggested that McSwane create a fake diploma from a non-existent school.

McSwane recorded the recruiter saying that on the phone.

"It can be like Faith Hill Baptist School or something -- whatever you choose," the recruiter said.

As instructed, McSwane went on the computer to a Web site and for $200 arranged to have a phony diploma created that certified him as a graduate of Faith Hill Baptist High School, the very name the recruiter suggested. It came complete with a fake grade transcript.
Click to expand...

I know recruiters bend the truth about the military itself when recruiting, make it out to be all wonderful and fun, but now they are helping kids lie and cheat just to get in?
Click to expand...


Please back that statement up. You just stated that recruiters in general lie, and I will have to disagree.
Click to expand...

I know my recruiter lied to me. Fellow recruits in basic also shared stories of lies they were told.
This was pretty far down my track of getting into the military, but I mentioned that I played guitar and he said there was a rec room in the basic training dorms where people could get together and play :roll:
One guy brought a portable TV because his recruiter told him he'd be allowed to use it in basic. It really sucked for him when we played "pick 'em up, put 'em down" with our luggage the first day.
 
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
I wasn't allowed into the AF because it showed I had done drugs other than marijuana on my medical record. I didn't know that would have been a factor, but at the time I couldn't pass a piss test and was worried about that and so my recruiter offered to move it to a later date.
Click to expand...

My recruiter got to the part where they ask about drug use, and I said "Will I get in trouble if I say yes?"
He said "for anything but marijuana, yes." So I said yeah, I've smoked it. He said "How many times?"
So I sat there for a couple minutes thinking, trying to come up with a reasonable estimate, and he said "Okay, five times. Anyone asks, you tried it five times."
 
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: dardin211
Full story: http://news4colorado.com/localnews/local_story_118125046.html

McSwane contacted his local army recruiting office in Golden with a scenario he created. He told a recruiter that he was a dropout and didn't have a high school diploma.

"No problem," the recruiter explained. He suggested that McSwane create a fake diploma from a non-existent school.

McSwane recorded the recruiter saying that on the phone.

"It can be like Faith Hill Baptist School or something -- whatever you choose," the recruiter said.

As instructed, McSwane went on the computer to a Web site and for $200 arranged to have a phony diploma created that certified him as a graduate of Faith Hill Baptist High School, the very name the recruiter suggested. It came complete with a fake grade transcript.
Click to expand...

I know recruiters bend the truth about the military itself when recruiting, make it out to be all wonderful and fun, but now they are helping kids lie and cheat just to get in?

This sure does not set a good example for the young kids they are recruiting, basically teaching them it's ok to lie and cheat in the military to meet your goals. This is pretty sad. One smart kid though, he tested the system and then exposed it.
Click to expand...

dont let one bad apple spoil the basket
Click to expand...

my sentiments exactly.
Also i have no problems with soldiers smoking weed in their spare time.
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
I wasn't allowed into the AF because it showed I had done drugs other than marijuana on my medical record. I didn't know that would have been a factor, but at the time I couldn't pass a piss test and was worried about that and so my recruiter offered to move it to a later date.
Click to expand...

My recruiter got to the part where they ask about drug use, and I said "Will I get in trouble if I say yes?"
He said "for anything but marijuana, yes." So I said yeah, I've smoked it. He said "How many times?"
So I sat there for a couple minutes thinking, trying to come up with a reasonable estimate, and he said "Okay, five times. Anyone asks, you tried it five times."
Click to expand...

Yeah, he asked me that and I didn't want to say hundreds and hundreds of times so I put down 4 (I think you had to be under 10 times or something like that).
 
Now that is classy. . . The Army and Marines will take anyone though. Surprised they even required a HS diploma, like the Navy and the AF (a legit one - with transcripts and contact information, etc).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top