US admits Kabul drone strike killed civilians, including 7 children

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
88,246
55,794
136
Not really an admission when you just can't hide it any more and no reason to leak anything since it was known right away. The media did try to do their part by releasing the info during the last 3 Friday evening news dumps. Releasing bad news on a Friday afternoon is an attempt to avoid media scrutiny and is often called a “Friday news dump”.

Friday Sept, 3 - https://apnews.com/article/islamic-state-group-9a403031191ba5ee7927f75e047d7eb7
Friday Sept, 10 - https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...aid-worker-killing-10-afghan-civilians-2021-9 and now this story is also a Friday dump.

I know shit happens in war. Mistakes are made and innocent people often die. Just don't try to convince anyone that there would have been any admission if they could have possibly buried the story; they did try. I'm also sure the comment section here, as well as the media coverage, would have been completely different had the previous administration been responsible for this action.
The previous administration was responsible for literally hundreds of these actions and nobody cared so I’m not sure why you would say something that’s so obviously untrue.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hal2kilo
Mar 11, 2004
23,444
5,852
146
jesus fucking christ you shit manbaby. This was an admission. Probably...the first of it's type, ever. Would you rather wait that this come out as a leak? Or would you find cause to bitch about that, too, in an illogical, profoundly biased and ignorant way.

How is it that one human can be so purposefully and pridefully wrong about literally everything that comes out of their mouth? The fuck happened to you? Too much Florida, too little education? (This diagnosis bleeds from your avatar)

Its not the first ever. We admitted wrongdoing, apologized, and full on paid reparations (a whole $6,000 per person...) for when we blew up that hospital in 2015.
 

gothuevos

Diamond Member
Jul 28, 2010
3,531
2,420
136
No one is going to lose their job. The Democrat machine was 100% that they had tons of proof it was terrorists and claimed to confirm secondary explosions. Just another example of the incompetence in our intelligence agencies and lying by this administration. Biden needed a "kill" to show that the "beyond the horizon" approach works and ISIS-K, the new boogeyman, was made to pay.

Don't worry, Trump can lead us back in 2024, and you can cheer him along.
 

Sunburn74

Diamond Member
Oct 5, 2009
5,076
2,635
136

emperus

Diamond Member
Apr 6, 2012
7,824
1,583
136
I'm agnostic about this. This is what this kind of war looks like and if we are comfortable starting them we have to be comfortable with these types of "mistakes". We also have to understand in the process we've probably created another person (mother, father, son, daughter, friend or family remember) who despises the US and it's "power". I'm glad we left.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
26,556
24,748
136
You are wrong.

That happened before the drones. Before the war. That happened back when we were happy to ignore the rest of the world. Back when we were innocent of the these horrors of war. Back when we were to soft to even consider fighting a 20 year war.

You really think we ignored the rest of the world before 9/11?. That's pretty bonkers. What about how we helped a coup that overthrew Mossadegh in Iran and then backed the ruthless Shah, a series of events which helped trigger the Islamic Revolution there which gave us the lunatic Islamic extremists. You ignore that we were involved with Saddam Hussein. We have played governments in the Middle East for decades and decades prior to 9/11. You ignore that we helped the Taliban in Afghanistan against the Soviets. Did you just forget about Vietnam? Or our meddling in many South and Central American nations via arming certain groups, backing corporate interests and helping overthrow governments there and backing ruthless regimes that perpetrated any number of atrocities? The list is extremely lengthy and has many dishonorable moments.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Dulanic

uallas5

Golden Member
Jun 3, 2005
1,679
1,966
136
For all the people that complained about the military being "restrained" and why don't/didn't we just turn the place into a parking lot, this is why. It's kinda of hard to liberate a people by killing them. Also this happened MANY times in Afghanistan. Early in the war there were multiple instances of the US lighting up a wedding or some sort of family gathering because the intelligence said it was the Taliban or Al-Qaida. Later on they would find out that it was some dispute between families, sometimes generations old, and it was all a ruse to get the US to do their dirty revenge work.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Zorba

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
37,615
33,335
136
This has happened almost constantly for the past 20 years. The military says something and it's taken for granted that it is true. Only later, sometimes, do we even find out they were wrong, lied, or both.
I don't doubt that it has happened before, but while I do not follow along at all except for maybe a few headline stories here and there, I find it hard to believe the US is "almost constantly" slaughtering completely innocent people outside of the context of collateral damage.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
17,542
16,892
146
I don't doubt that it has happened before, but while I do not follow along at all except for maybe a few headline stories here and there, I find it hard to believe the US is "almost constantly" slaughtering completely innocent people outside of the context of collateral damage.
When you don't care about lives lost from collateral damage, you can 'almost constantly' be killing innocents through collateral damage.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,686
136
Not really an admission when you just can't hide it any more and no reason to leak anything since it was known right away. The media did try to do their part by releasing the info during the last 3 Friday evening news dumps. Releasing bad news on a Friday afternoon is an attempt to avoid media scrutiny and is often called a “Friday news dump”.

Friday Sept, 3 - https://apnews.com/article/islamic-state-group-9a403031191ba5ee7927f75e047d7eb7
Friday Sept, 10 - https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...aid-worker-killing-10-afghan-civilians-2021-9 and now this story is also a Friday dump.

I know shit happens in war. Mistakes are made and innocent people often die. Just don't try to convince anyone that there would have been any admission if they could have possibly buried the story; they did try. I'm also sure the comment section here, as well as the media coverage, would have been completely different had the previous administration been responsible for this action.

The Media was hiding it by putting it out there three times?
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
37,615
33,335
136
When you don't care about lives lost from collateral damage, you can 'almost constantly' be killing innocents through collateral damage.
Right, but this wasn't collateral damage. I mean, technically one could make an argument that it is still collateral damage but IMO this is something beyond collateral damage, and like I said, there should at least be a bunch a safeguards to prevent something like this from ever happening.