UPS, really?

[ViviTheMage]

I just leave a note stating call me, or ring doorbell if I know UPS is coming.

 

[lxskllr]

link to awesome snus please?

http://www.northerner.com/index.php

http://www.buysnus.com/

 

[purbeast0]

serious question ... why can't you just run down to 7-11 and buy some snus until your package arrives tomorrow?

 

[rudeguy]

http://www.northerner.com/index.php

http://www.buysnus.com/

reco me a strong but not make me puke one?

 

[lxskllr]

serious question ... why can't you just run down to 7-11 and buy some snus until your package arrives tomorrow?

They don't really sell over the counter in the USA. It's starting to spread, but at a glacial pace. The crap from Skoal, Camel, and Marlboro IS NOT snus.

 

[rudeguy]

They don't really sell over the counter in the USA. It's starting to spread, but at a glacial pace. The crap from Skoal, Camel, and Marlboro IS NOT snus.

I like the Malboro Mint. Camel is too weak.

Please give me a yummy reco????

 

[purbeast0]

They don't really sell over the counter in the USA. It's starting to spread, but at a glacial pace. The crap from Skoal, Camel, and Marlboro IS NOT snus.

my little brother buys snus from 7-11 all the time. maybe it is the stuff you are not considering snus, but it says snus right on the container.

 

[lxskllr]

reco me a strong but not make me puke one?

Honestly, you should try a few. Tastes are very subjective, and it's hard to judge what you'll like, even from other life experiences. People that otherwise hate licorice will sometimes like licorice/anis snus.

I'm a traditionalist. I like the classic flavors, and use lössnus almost exclusively. Most people gravitate towards the traditional flavors over time, but of course that isn't a given. Here's 10 that would give you a good start, and give you an idea of the breadth of flavor. I won't list lössnus, though that should be given a try by anyone who gets into snus.

Jakobssons Mint - strong mint flavor, medium sweet. Tastes a bit like Bärenjager.

Grov - Smokey tobacco with chocolate notes, salty

Göteborgs Rapé - Juniper, with medium salt, and light smoke.

Jakobssons Fläder - Flavored with elder. If you aren't familiar, that comes off as apple flavored.

Catch Eucalyptus - I hear this one's changed. I haven't had it in years, but used to like it. The one I've had was menthol, and eucalyptus.

Jakobssons Licorice - This is really anis flavored. Kind of like Jägermeister.

General - Smokey tobacco, and bergamot. Salty. The #1 selling snus worldwide.

Göteborgs Rapé #2 - less juniper and smoke, added lingonberry berry flavor.

Olde Viking Original - Traditional snus, similar to General, though I didn't get bergamot flavor.

Jakobssons Classic(not the strong classic) - Lots of bergamot flavor that comes off orangy, and hoppy. Medium salt.

Here's my top 5 that is currently still available...

Gotland Grå
Pioneer Snuff
Ettan lös
Jakobssons mint
General lös I guess. I'm not a big fan, but all the bergamot lössnus I liked has fallen by the wayside, or become unavailable. Portions are the new darling, so lössnus hasn't gotten any loving.

Keep in mind real snus can taste salty if you aren't used to it. Traditional snus is never sweet, but companies catering to the American taste have been making sweet snus. Jakobssons mint is a good example. They don't go overboard on the sweetness like the American brands do. It's not ideal, but n general I find their approach acceptable. I'm hoping American tastes grow up, and they start favoring the Swedish flavor profile.

 

[lxskllr]

my little brother buys snus from 7-11 all the time. maybe it is the stuff you are not considering snus, but it says snus right on the container.

Oh yea, I know what it says, but I reject their classification. It's an overly synthesized, ersatz flavor that has little in common with traditional snus. It's too highly flavored, and too sweet. It's the Zima of the snus world.

 

[destrekor]

my little brother buys snus from 7-11 all the time. maybe it is the stuff you are not considering snus, but it says snus right on the container.

It may be called snus, but it's not snus.


Though, some places may now stock the American-market snus under the General brand.. haven't checked. No real Swedish-style snus is truly available at any gas station.

I used to buy that pseudo-snus shit, can't stand it though - not after experiencing real snus.

Other than the American label brands using Swedish-produced tobacco, I would be hesitant to even say they share anything with snus, including the tobacco itself.
Snus is steam-pasteurized, whereas American dip and chewing tobacco is fire-cured (and fermented?). This alone leads to a remarkable difference in terms of how bad for the body/mouth it is, as well as it simply makes for a better product.
Again, I can't say if any American "snus" is fire-cured, I do not believe so, but with the other shit they do, it doesn't follow the Swedish standards.
Plus, their "FDA" regulates everything in the product, and thus everything is 100% food grade, and the few additives are clearly listed with E-number (how they label flavoring agents and preservatives) - basically... salt, flavor chemicals, and water.
Here... who the fuck knows what they put in the tobacco, and it's like holding a piece of candy under your lip for awhile...
oh, and they also have abysmally low nicotine levels in comparison to the average Swedish product - plus, no Extra Strong options.
And it's still supporting Big Tobacco here in the states, and the may in fact be more evil than UPS.

I'm forced to mail-order, but thankfully 99% of the time I go to order at Northerner.com, they have what I want at their PA warehouse, so no customs or other bullshit to deal with (at least on my end of the transaction), though it is taxed (but I'm okay with taxing these types of things).

As for some more recommendations, I'd say definitely peruse the list lsxkllr gave you... but like he said, you'll actually probably have a bit of a shock tasting the first real Swedish one after using the American-brand offerings.
I had used Malboro, and I accepted the sweetness (and in a way, somewhat welcomed it, at least in the Frost/mint variant)... but I rather enjoyed the lack of such in the mint flavors of Swedish brands.

There are quite a few in his list that I have decided I most certainly dislike, but some I haven't even tried. Generally, I can't do any kind of "sweet"-style flavor (even without sweetness) in the Swedish approach (cranberry without any sweetness is a disturbing flavor profile imho, not even sure if I'd like cranberry in my tobacco anyway but it was a sample of a brand I otherwise like)... but I tend to stand by an all-encompassing mint flavor. A wintergreen one I tried I hated, and so far I haven't really found any that I liked from the first taste... one day I might, given that I sample more products.

My stand-by snus: Thunder Frosted, and Offroad Frosted.

Both are from V2 (manufacturer), and honestly, probably the most compatible with an American-palate. Thunder is the Extra-Strong brand, Offroad is their middle-of-the-road brand (sometimes slightly cheaper than similar normal-strength offerings), and Phantom is their cheap offering iirc.

Offroad Frosted is, well honestly, kind of boring, but it's serviceable and does the job (and I love their pouches, they make an excellent pouch/mini-teabag-style portion that seems like a better material than other companies), and I definitely don't disagree with the flavor...minty is about all I can describe, not much too it, salty as usual with a hint of sweetness and a mild/boring/neutral tobacco background.

Thunder Frosted is basically two of those portions rolled up into one (same 1g portion). At 16mg/g nicotine, if you don't use it often, it's either a great high or if you really aren't accustomed to the strength, possibly a bit woozy (also noticeable if your body is just not feeling like taking all that in, I've had to take one out to shake off a dizzy spell).
It has a much better "Frosted" flavor than their normal offering, and in comparison, its a bit sweeter in flavor (don't think any sugar is added). If you can handle the strength, you'll probably love it (I think it "runs" a bit more than other snus, it's definitely more moist than many others... can't compare to other extra-strong offerings).

They also have, using the same tobacco and pouch material, a Long+ and Mini offering under the Thunder brand. Long+ is like 1.5x standard (12mg/portion ?), and it's a longer and "thinner" pouch, i.e. more discrete.
Thunder Mini is a tiny little pouch, 0.5g iirc, and has the same nicotine as a 1g standard portion (~8mg/portion). Same strength and more discrete than normal portions (if portions are your thing, as it is for me), but sadly, you also get fewer portions with each of the "lesser" steps in the Thunder lineup. You get 24 portions in most normal snus cans iirc.

 

[Baked]

Wait, what? I love our UPS delivery guys. Very friendly and helpful. Of course, this is for business delivery, not home delivery.

 

[surfsatwerk]

I like the Malboro Mint. Camel is too weak.

Please give me a yummy reco????

Thunder Frost

 

[destrekor]

Wait, what? I love our UPS delivery guys. Very friendly and helpful. Of course, this is for business delivery, not home delivery.

Oh, the delivery drivers at work (I don't actually deal with them at Shipping/Receiving, but I have to interact with them) for both Fedex and UPS are usually pretty cool (the regulars, at least... a few are a little rude).

UPS and Fedex at home have both been hit and miss, varies across the years and regular drivers change.

UPS prefers Business - as obvious by late home delivers as of late.

Re-delivery attempt has yet to occur. Yesterday was sometime after 5... second attempt was marked to occur after 5pm. Seriously, how does that even make sense anyhow?

This could have easily happened at any other time, and so I'm not sure if this driver is simply a dick like that when nobody is watching or what... friendly and helpful when I catch him as he's approaching the house (I usually stalk the windows waiting for their vehicles, afraid of such an event like yesterday as much as I am impatient for my orders (and I've already waited/wasted most of the day waiting for these bastards), but I've yet to miss a driver when I have something that needs a signature.
And hell, if it was the regular driver... he's delivered my tobacco here before... can't he just bullshit my signature to be a pal? No... he chooses to be a dick instead.