Goosemaster
Lifer
kind of sucks too for a lot of people since the lappies with c2duo are quite pwoerful🙁
*waits to snatch up a cheap lenovo:evil:*
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kind of sucks too for a lot of people since the lappies with c2duo are quite pwoerful🙁
*waits to snatch up a cheap lenovo:evil:*
Goosemaster
Lifer
Like I've said before I bought one for my dad for general purpose computing and he's thrilled. It works perfectly for him.
It has its place.
mb
Lifer
Did you miss HamburgerBoy's quote? I'm sure he was talking about games. It seemed to me that he meant that if he got a Mac, he'd want it to be able to play the latest games. If there were new games for it, to get a full sized video card you'd need a Mac desktop, not a Mac Mini. Right now it looks to me like there is only one desktop, the $2,499+ Mac Pro.
Get my drift?
But I'm sure that 7600GT in the 24" imac is a screamer.
NaOH
Diamond Member
Yes, I love that integrated graphics card. :roll:
That's the reason i didn't get a macbook. You have to pay next to 2k just for the damned graphics card while the regular macbook costs 1k starting without a graphics card. I picked up a 2ghz c2d, 1gb ram, x1400 128mb, Thinkpad T60 for 1.2k recently.
As a current owner of both a PC and a Mac, with XP, Vista, and OSX currently installed and accessible (XP on my T41, OSX/Vista on my Mac Mini). I can honesly say i spend 95% of my time in OSX as a matter of preference. For daily use, its just a batter OS for me.
I just switched to apple too, was gonna attempt a vista install after leopard comes out. I too would like to see what it is you have 9 pages about. It's size 12? single spaced? double spaced? 20x-spaced?
I really want to see what you had to say because I was just comparing the two platforms and chose apple for several reasons. Looking at things and assessing hardware fairly, I was in the market for a new laptop. It was either a new T-series thinkpad to replace my old thinkpad or a macbook pro. I usually get the higher end models, and performance per pound, the macbook pro cannot be beat by a PC laptop. As for price, I picked up a 2.33GHz C2D MBP off craigslist for $1970 brand spankin new, still sealed. The thinkpad with equivalent specs would have put me in the same price range, depending on where I got it.
And before you go off telling me about dell or HP, let me just say this: Thinkpads are the only line of PC laptops I trust, after working in IT, they're the only laptops that have consistently performed with the least amount of failures or issues. I will not blow my money on a dell, nor an HP. For me, upgrading was a decision between Thinkpads or Macbook Pros (who apple gets ASUS to manufacture, I believe). When you talk about hardware, Apple is very picky and tends to put some of the best hardware in their computers. For the same price I got a great machine that will also run Vista or XP faster than most PC laptops, that just seemed like a no brainer. Plus I get to run an eye-candy version of BSD.
scootermaster
Platinum Member
I would say most of the profs I know use Macs in some way or another. In fact, a specific prof of mine (one of the foremost experts on computer security in the country -- you know, the type of guy who has to cancel office hours because the FBI is calling him) pretty much uses Macs exclusively. And he's probably forgotten more about computers than all of ATOT combined.
I mean, fanboys are idiots, regardless of what they love. I, personally, have a PC at home, a Powerbook and I do my research on a Linux machine. I can see the benefits of all three, but people who blindly diss macs are morons.
My favorite Mac diss is that they're "too expensive?" Y'know, some people don't care. Some people have money. Some people don't mind spending said money for a superior product. When they can make a PC laptop as nice as my Powerbook, I'll buy one. Until then, I don't care how much it costs, I'm not going back.
Whatever...I'm certainly not trying to "convert" anyone here (I already made money off Apple stock, I don't care what it does 😀) I just think people get a kick out of dissing Apple users, and I don't get that.
LEDominator
Senior member
Because a superior product always ships with yesterdays parts and costs twice as much... they sure got one past me...
neutralizer
Lifer
Same, email in profile.
13Gigatons
Diamond Member
That's true but Windows Vista is replacing XP after 5 years. If you had a Windows XP machine for 5 years then it's definitly time to upgrade. For $600 you can get a whole new PC running Windows Vista Home Premium Edition.
Vista will rock in 2009 when we all have quad cores and 8 gigs of memory. Then XP will seem really old and dull.
If Microsoft released a new operating system every year, it may be as good as OS X. That's what Microsoft should do. Lets just call Vista Windows V 1.0 and release a new version every year. To hell with free service packs, make people shell out another hundred bucks for cool new features and stuff.
In all seriousness, OS X isn't the wonderful end-all-be-all OS people claim it to be. It has it's ups and downs just like Windows does. I use one every single day at work and I spen an equal amount of time cursing my MAC as I do my PC. Seriously though, if there wasn't a market for both, one would have died off by now.
I think that the whole Windows v MAC thing doesn't even exist at a corporate level. I think they egg each other just to satisfy rabbid fanboys.
In all seriousness, OS X isn't the wonderful end-all-be-all OS people claim it to be. It has it's ups and downs just like Windows does. I use one every single day at work and I spen an equal amount of time cursing my MAC as I do my PC. Seriously though, if there wasn't a market for both, one would have died off by now.
I think that the whole Windows v MAC thing doesn't even exist at a corporate level. I think they egg each other just to satisfy rabbid fanboys.
Schadenfroh
Elite Member
CSC 309, Computers and Society, required and it is a hell of a lot of writing.... brings my back to my Organic Chemistry lab report days, although considerably easier.
BTW, document is in rough draft stage (have not even proof read it) due date is later this month, it is not going to leave my hard drive as I do not want any chance of it turning up on turnitin.com anytime soon.
Kaido
Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
To me, XP and OS X are about the same for day-to-day stuff, but I won't do heavy-duty stuff on Windows anymore (for me, 3D graphics & rendering and video). I have trust problems with Windows & "big" applications.
imo if Apple wants more marketshare, they need to release a mid-range, expandable tower system for computer geeks to cross over on. your choices right now are a Mini (crappy integrated graphics), an iMac (zero internal expandability), or a $2,500 Mac Pro tower. where does that leave the average AT user, with $1,000 in their pocket wanting a tower system they can throw cards and stuff in? nowhere. I'm an Apple fanboy but sometimes they have me scratching my head 😕
imo if Apple wants more marketshare, they need to release a mid-range, expandable tower system for computer geeks to cross over on. your choices right now are a Mini (crappy integrated graphics), an iMac (zero internal expandability), or a $2,500 Mac Pro tower. where does that leave the average AT user, with $1,000 in their pocket wanting a tower system they can throw cards and stuff in? nowhere. I'm an Apple fanboy but sometimes they have me scratching my head 😕
LOL you sound like one of the most fanatic fanboys in this thread.
As for Macs, i like Macs. I like my Macbook, it replaced my 700m (although took me awhile to get rid of the 700m, even when i had the Macbook... i just wished Apple would release something like the 12" ibook, something almost in the ultra portable range). I ONLY do my online banking, paypal, and other sensitive/important stuff on my Macbook, even though i'm 99% sure my Windows systems are clean and secured. I also love the keyboard on the Macbook. Oh, and Textmate (3rd party app i know, but still a sweet Mac only software).
But Vista is sweet, and far superior to OSX in almost everything but security (but really too early to tell). I'll probably eventually toss Vista on the Mac if i can i get a cheap copy and know it'll function 100%.
ForumMaster
Diamond Member
that's the reason you never give a real e-mail address to any of these apps.
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