Well im going from AMD to Intel , i need your guys advice for what to get for good overclocking build. I saw some post saying that some new chips are coming out pretty soon from Intel when ? I have around $250 to spend on a mobo, $350ish on a chip and around $150 on ram. I already have a great 850W psu, TT armor case, 8800 GT (i actualy have two but thinking of selling one) . What are my options for great performance ?
Upgrading to Intel, need suggestions for good overclocking build.
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$350 on a chip will get you a serious performer...as will $250 for a motherboard. Intel's newest chips (designated Wolfdale) will be coming out on the 20th of this month. What are you using the computer for? If gaming primarily, get the Wolfdale E8400 and overclock it to hell and back for less than $200. If doing development, editing, and processing, get a Q6600 and overclock it to 3.3GHz or so.
For an overclocking motherboard, P35 is your best friend. Check this out:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813131200
For RAM, try this or something similar:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820231145
For an overclocking motherboard, P35 is your best friend. Check this out:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16813131200
For RAM, try this or something similar:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16820231145
My primary use of the pc would be for gaming, that chip your talking about E8400 is that penryn (i saw some posts talking about it)? Also that mobo is DDR3 will that work with DDR2 memory and one more thing does that mobo support PCI 2.0 because i didnt see that in specifications section? Also i forgot to mention i have Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme cooler so for cooling im all set.
Also someone suggested to me earlier that a 780i EVGA SLI mobo is really nice , since i have two 8800GT's i might get that ? Or the ASUS is a better choice ?
The ASUS board does not support SLI as it is an Intel P35 chipset board. So it will only support Crossfire. The 780i's are OK boards and I think you'll like it if you want to do SLI and have actual Penryn support.
taltamir
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the new E8400 is gonna be a 45nm chip... its coming out soon. (less then 2 monthes)
If a gamer then you should get dual core.. the max speeds on those is faster then quad core and for games that equals better performance then a quad core.
The amounts you said are excessive. You will probably need much less then those amounts for ram and mobo. RAM would cost you over 400$ for DDR3, and under 50$ for DDR2 (most are 70$ with 40-50$ rebate.) since you are upgrading from AMD you most likely already have the ram. Although DDR2 1044 (is it 1044?) ram for your overclocking might really cost in the price range you said (150$).
If a gamer then you should get dual core.. the max speeds on those is faster then quad core and for games that equals better performance then a quad core.
The amounts you said are excessive. You will probably need much less then those amounts for ram and mobo. RAM would cost you over 400$ for DDR3, and under 50$ for DDR2 (most are 70$ with 40-50$ rebate.) since you are upgrading from AMD you most likely already have the ram. Although DDR2 1044 (is it 1044?) ram for your overclocking might really cost in the price range you said (150$).
Yea i got 4 GB of Mushkin PC2-6400 800mhz ram , i might sell that on ebay and get that PC-8500 since i want to OC.
I see, but i thought that the new Penryn duals are alot faster then the Q6600 ? Am i mistaken since they are new CPU's coming out January 20th ?
Ok thank you Mark, i will go with a Q6600 also out of these Mobos which one should i get the EVGA 780i SLI , ASUS P5K64 , or Gigabyte P35-DQ6 ?
BonzaiDuck
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Welcome to the Anandtech geek-and-guru jamboree, telefanatic.
For the money you want to spend, if you aren't abso-blankin-tively, posi-blankin-lutely set on SLI-ready, you might want to look at the ASUS Maximus mobo that was made for DDR2. At least, it's been out there for a couple months. I'd also agree with Markfw900 about the Gigabyte board.
Personally, I'd say that a 780i board is a gamble, but no more than were the 680i boards before them. On the plus side, you get SLI capability. On the down-side, the aftermath of the Great nVidia-Intel feud.
In another thread, I explained to some members that I KNEW I was taking a gamble on an ASUS 680i board -- an expensive one, but I waited to see if BIOS revisions resolved some issues. I've been reasonably pleased with this power-hog, despite all the mud some people are slinging at it.
The P35 boards ARE "tested" -- they've been out there for a while. The X38 and X48 boards are newer, but there may be rewards if you're willing to gamble. Gigabyte has them; ASUS offers the Maximus Formula. I'd only venture that Intel chipsets are less of a gamble, but that's gonna be the case with a dominant firm trying to keep its edge in the motherboard game.
BonzaiDuck
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If you add up all the remarks on these forums, there is a sizeable group disenchanted with the last go-around on the ASUS boards. But the companies learn from their mistakes and shortcomings. I want to look at more reviews on the Maximus boards. Even with the bad-mouthing that my Striker Extreme's had over the last year, it was among the better of the 680i boards, at least for avoiding the troubles last year that forced reference-board-makers to produce new hardware revisions.
I've stuck with ASUS to exclusion of other manufactures in recent years. I'll be getting a taste of Gigabyte with an mATX board that should arrive Wednesday. Definitely not their top-of-the-line, so it should be especially interesting for that reason. But it's an nVidia 610i chipset. Everyone's swung toward Intel chipsets these last several months . . . .
If you look at another thread here -- "help OC'ing my Striker Extreme" -- it proves the point that BIOS revisions can be specific to CPU model-lines and steppings. So you might have a BIOS revision on a board that makes OC'ing earlier Conroe and Kentsfield processors viable, and a later revision that makes it impossible to OC those 1066FSB processors -- with revision notes that say " . . . improves over-clocking for 1,333FSB processors."
I like the idea that a board-maker may successfully span two or more generations of CPUs with one model, but let's face it -- there's a limit to how far a board released in August '06 can go into 2008. And there's already that trouble where they promised full Penryn-compatibility, but fall short of that promise with the Yorkfield quad.
I've stuck with ASUS to exclusion of other manufactures in recent years. I'll be getting a taste of Gigabyte with an mATX board that should arrive Wednesday. Definitely not their top-of-the-line, so it should be especially interesting for that reason. But it's an nVidia 610i chipset. Everyone's swung toward Intel chipsets these last several months . . . .
If you look at another thread here -- "help OC'ing my Striker Extreme" -- it proves the point that BIOS revisions can be specific to CPU model-lines and steppings. So you might have a BIOS revision on a board that makes OC'ing earlier Conroe and Kentsfield processors viable, and a later revision that makes it impossible to OC those 1066FSB processors -- with revision notes that say " . . . improves over-clocking for 1,333FSB processors."
I like the idea that a board-maker may successfully span two or more generations of CPUs with one model, but let's face it -- there's a limit to how far a board released in August '06 can go into 2008. And there's already that trouble where they promised full Penryn-compatibility, but fall short of that promise with the Yorkfield quad.
Listen to Mark - he's on it. And particularly regarding Ram. You do not have to overspend on Ram to achieve moderately high overclocks at 1:1 ratios. It seems to me that folks get themselves into trouble during the overclock phase when they attempt to run DDR2-1066 or higher using async ratios (because they've paid for the Ram and by gosh they don't want to run it underclocked.)
My only other addition/comment - when you've chosen your motherboard, DO visit that motherboard's site and pull up their list of tested and certified memory modules. In my experience, this can save a person a whole lot of grief.
Regards and welcome to Anandtech
My only other addition/comment - when you've chosen your motherboard, DO visit that motherboard's site and pull up their list of tested and certified memory modules. In my experience, this can save a person a whole lot of grief.
Regards and welcome to Anandtech
Well i was looking at that GIGABYTE GA-P35-DQ6 mobo but my problem is that if i want to go crossfire its only 16x/4x ? And i would like 16x/16x board. And the thing is what do i need a Quad for if i only play games ? I mean wouldnt an E8500 give alot more performance when i would actually OC the thing then a Q6600 ?
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