Upgrading to haswell

[moonbogg]

And the number of CPU limited games is what, now? Be realistic here. We're talking can't manage 30-40 FPS for most folks out there, not whether or not it can feed your double GTX 690 setup.

In all honesty, for single card setups I can think of MAYBE a single game. Even then, you would be missing maybe like 10-20fps. So you get like 50 instead of 60 or something.
As it stands right now, multi-GPU gamers may benefit from haswell but single card gamers should really care less if gaming is the primary concern.

 

[nitromullet]

As it stands right now, multi-GPU gamers may benefit from haswell but single card gamers should really care less if gaming is the primary concern.

It really depends on what you're coming from. I had every intention of grabbing IB this past year to replace my Nahalem cpu, but the whole TIM/high OCing temps issue really sort of turned me off. That and the high price of LGA2011/X79 has me looking towards Haswell for an upgrade for multi or single gpu.

 

[Kristijonas]

AVX2 is new 256bit instructions. Gather and vector of scalar instructions. Huge perofrmance benefit possible there. Haswell also got 2 extra issue ports and everything is double to handle singlecycle 256bit execution. Including double L1 and L2 bandwidths.

TSX is to help certain types of multithreaded code.

SOix is basicly power saving modes.

The ondie VRM is also a huge thing, mainly for power, platform size reduction and cost savings. In theory all the VRM around the CPU socket gets moved ondie.

So there will be AVX2 optimized applications and only those applications that were optimized will work at double speed?

How do TSX and SOix work? Any simple readings for ignorant people?

 

[Kippa]

Will a six core Haswell be released? I have an i7 970 and am thinking of upgrading for a number of reasons. I don't upgrade to a new cpu every time they release new ones. I am quite happy skipping Sandy and Ivy, and am thinking of going for a Haswell based system for a number of reasons, supporting SATA III is one of them. What I want to know is will there be a six core Haswell like there was a six core i7 970? Or will I have to get a a Xeon workstation for a six core? I do 3d rendering and dabble a bit in video editing by the way so I don't want any quotes saying that I wouldn't use more than 4 cores as I bloody well would!

 

[nitromullet]

Will a six core Haswell be released? I have an i7 970 and am thinking of upgrading for a number of reasons. I don't upgrade to a new cpu every time they release new ones. I am quite happy skipping Sandy and Ivy, and am thinking of going for a Haswell based system for a number of reasons, supporting SATA III is one of them. What I want to know is will there be a six core Haswell like there was a six core i7 970? Or will I have to get a a Xeon workstation for a six core? I do 3d rendering and dabble a bit in video editing by the way so I don't want any quotes saying that I wouldn't use more than 4 cores as I bloody well would!

I think the general consensus is that mainstream Haswell LGA1150 will be quad core, and Haswell-E will be six core.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I think the general consensus is that mainstream Haswell LGA1150 will be quad core, and Haswell-E will be six core.

No news at all on haswell-E. Only for Haswell EP/EX. I am quite sure there will be more than 6 core Haswell-E. Haswell-E/EP/EX arrives in 2014, unlike Haswell-DT in 2013.

 

[ShintaiDK]

So there will be AVX2 optimized applications and only those applications that were optimized will work at double speed?

How do TSX and SOix work? Any simple readings for ignorant people?

AVX1 will also gain the benfit.

http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2012/02/07/transactional-synchronization-in-haswell

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6355/intels-haswell-architecture/3

 

[moonbogg]

It really depends on what you're coming from. I had every intention of grabbing IB this past year to replace my Nahalem cpu, but the whole TIM/high OCing temps issue really sort of turned me off. That and the high price of LGA2011/X79 has me looking towards Haswell for an upgrade for multi or single gpu.

Yeah that makes perfect sense. I was thinking more about the current sandy/ivy people. Hell, i'll probably switch to Haswell if its good. No sense in pretending like i'm reasonable.