Upgrading, need advice 4570 or 3550?

[cyberpunkz]

I've been gradually upgrading parts of my PC for a while now and it's come to the part for a completely new architecture. (CPU/mobo/RAM)

Specs:
CPU: Phenom X3 8650
Motherboard: Biostar MCP6PB M2+
RAM: 4GB DDR2
Graphics Card: GTS 450
Power Supply: Seasonic MII12 520W

I plan to keep my GPU and Power Supply until I can get my hands on a better GPU in the future.
I won't go SLI/Crossfire.
I'll use this mainly just for gaming at 1080p.

Some of the parts I'm currently looking at right now.

Intel 4570 / 3550
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty H87 Performance/
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z87 Pro3/ (cheaper)

Is the 3550 really more power efficient than the 4570?

Will the little overclocking overhead of the 3550 make a difference?

I've seen a number of benchmarks between the 4670k stock to OC and there doesn't seem to be any performance difference between the two in gaming. That's why I wanted to go with a non-OC processor.

I will be buying from this store in particular
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=dynaquestpc

My budget is around PHP 18,000
I need a CPU, motherboard and RAM

Thanks in advance!

 

[BrightCandle]

If you intend to overclock you need to get a k processor. In practical terms you should get the haswell CPU, its a little quicker in legacy apps and potentially much faster in apps that use its capabilities fully. There is no reason to choose an Ivy Bridge over a Haswell today, the new processor is just better.

 

[RayTheKing]

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=25570678 G-SKILL Ripjaws X 4 GB (Get 2 if you can)
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=25179640 Asrock H87
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=25425597 i5-4670

 

[frozentundra123456]

If you intend to overclock you need to get a k processor. In practical terms you should get the haswell CPU, its a little quicker in legacy apps and potentially much faster in apps that use its capabilities fully. There is no reason to choose an Ivy Bridge over a Haswell today, the new processor is just better.

The only reason I would consider Ivy over Haswell is that motherboards for Haswell seem quite expensive still. The performance improvement is only 5 to 10 percent at best except in very specific apps.

 

[cyberpunkz]

If you intend to overclock you need to get a k processor. In practical terms you should get the haswell CPU, its a little quicker in legacy apps and potentially much faster in apps that use its capabilities fully. There is no reason to choose an Ivy Bridge over a Haswell today, the new processor is just better.

Haswell it is, thanks.

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=25570678 G-SKILL Ripjaws X 4 GB (Get 2 if you can)
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=25179640 Asrock H87
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=25425597 i5-4670

Thanks, that looks like it's in my budget. I'll try to get 8 GB. Is there an advantage when using a dual channel 4 GB compared to a single stick?

The only reason I would consider Ivy over Haswell is that motherboards for Haswell seem quite expensive still. The performance improvement is only 5 to 10 percent at best except in very specific apps.

Not much of a difference here in prices of motherboards so I think I'm pretty solid with Haswell.

 

[mfenn]

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=25570678 G-SKILL Ripjaws X 4 GB (Get 2 if you can)
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=25179640 Asrock H87
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=25425597 i5-4670

I think that the OP can do better on his budget. The Fatality motherboard in particular is quite expensive.

i5 4570 PHP 8700
GA-H87M-D3H PHP 4700
Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3 1600 8GB PHP 2700
Total: 16,100

That leaves 2000 to be put towards the new GPU, which is desperately needed.

 

[cyberpunkz]

I think that the OP can do better on his budget. The Fatality motherboard in particular is quite expensive.

i5 4570 PHP 8700
GA-H87M-D3H PHP 4700
Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3 1600 8GB PHP 2700
Total: 16,100

That leaves 2000 to be put towards the new GPU, which is desperately needed.

Quite nice indeed! the more money I save the earlier I can buy a GPU ^_^
Any down sides on using a MATX board?

Btw, I can't remember but I think I read from somewhere that I can use the iGPU with my discrete GPU for gaming in a sort of hybrid sli/xfire? is that true or am I just dreaming lol

 

[mfenn]

Quite nice indeed! the more money I save the earlier I can buy a GPU ^_^
Any down sides on using a MATX board?

Fewer PCI(e) slots, but that's about it. The performance and features are the same as an ATX board.

Btw, I can't remember but I think I read from somewhere that I can use the iGPU with my discrete GPU for gaming in a sort of hybrid sli/xfire? is that true or am I just dreaming lol

AMD can do that with their APU and low-end discrete cards. Intel doesn't have anything like that. It's not really a reason to go AMD as your GTS 450 is about as fast as a hybrid Crossfire solution.

 

[cyberpunkz]

Hi guys any idea if this memory http://www.crucial.com/store/partspe...4G3D1608DE1TX0 will fit with my Hyper 212?

 

[cyberpunkz]

Fewer PCI(e) slots, but that's about it. The performance and features are the same as an ATX board.



AMD can do that with their APU and low-end discrete cards. Intel doesn't have anything like that. It's not really a reason to go AMD as your GTS 450 is about as fast as a hybrid Crossfire solution.

Thanks for that, I'm thinking of pulling the trigger today just a few more research and questions and I think I'm good to go

 

[mfenn]

Hi guys any idea if this memory http://www.crucial.com/store/partspe...4G3D1608DE1TX0 will fit with my Hyper 212?

Most likely no. Grab the Ballistix Sport I recommended above.