Originally posted by: oldfart
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: oldfart
4 case fans will make more noise than 1, no? I run a 2.6 @ 3.3 GHz @ 1.575 Vcore with (1) 80mm Panaflo L1A @ 75% rpm (about 1500 rpm). I've set up a lot of different P4 rigs and none of them needed 4 case fans, never mind a modest 2.4 GHz setup.
Yes, but 4 quiet fans added together is barely audible. He is having heat issues because he has an overclocked cpu. The easiest thing to do is remove obstructions and improve airflow, or downclock the system to 1.8. If he still continues to have video problems, and the stock video fan is working, he obviously needs to improve airflow and/or get a bigger case.
Sorry, have to agree to disagree here. The system used to be stable with whatever amount of case fans he now has. Something broke and needs to be fixed. Its always been overclocked. 4 quiet case fans are too noisy for anyone who is serious about a quiet PC. If I can cool with a single L1A running 75% of its normal speed with a 3.3 GHz P4, why does he need 4 fans @ 2.4 GHz?
I am not trying to be argumentative, rather trying to follow a logical course of action given the OP's facts about the system:
1) The system is running hot.
2) There is a "mess of cables" inside the system.
When I look in the case, there are a mass of cables (the long flat ones) that seem to block the airflow over from the front to the back. Do they come in any other, non airflow blocking form ie. round?
3) All of the fans are dust free and working.
4) The system crashes/reboots during graphics intensive games.
You are
assuming that the system was running cool all this time. The OP has not told us whether he just started measuring temps now or whether he has checked it from time to time, and just now spotted a problem. I would guess that he hasn't really ever checked because, in his own words,
Seems to me that the Video card is dying or is overheating, but I am a total ignoramous when it comes to computer hardwre.
Further, you are assuming he/his wife has always played graphics intensive games. Maybe they just started. He really hasn't said for sure yet.
Now on to the analysis given the information we have so far:
The computer only crashes in graphics intensive games, not during normal operation. This implies heat and or fan problems on either the cpu or video card. All the fans are working and dust free. Therefore, next step is to downclock the cpu. It is well known that overclocking the cpu can lead to reduced life, there is absolutely no guarantee that overclocked cpus will last as long as at intended speeds. Just because person A has a stable overclocked proc does not mean person B will have the same experience. If downclocking the cpu does not work, the next logical thing is to improve airflow. This can be done by removing clutter, adding fans, and/or getting a slightly bigger case.
But, since we don't have the system in front of us, we are going to have to use the trial and error method to figure it out.
If I can cool with a single L1A running 75% of its normal speed with a 3.3 GHz P4, why does he need 4 fans @ 2.4 GHz?
Differences in cases, airflow restrictions, and quality of cpu being overclocked. There is no 100% guarantee all cpu's will OC with the same results across systems, especially with different working environments (the case).
