Question Upgrading/building a PC, opinions?

morphology3

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Hello,

the current PC that I have is prebuilt and the only thing that I bought for it is a new GPU and PSU(which I received for free from a friend). This is what I have now:
CPU: I7 6700 non K
GPU: Zotac 2060 Super Mini
PSU: Be quiet! SFX L 600W
RAM: 16gb
HDD: 1TB
SSD: 250gb

The PC I use mainly for gaming, but occasionally I do programming and some video editing(very little). I play games like CS:GO, Division 2, Breakpoint, GTA V, etc.

This is the upgrade I was thinking:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor (€316.99 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€73.89 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PRO CARBON WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard
Case: Fractal Design Define S2 Blackout ATX Mid Tower Case (€142.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (€113.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €647.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-19 21:20 CET+0100


I went with AMD because I think the 3700x is a good choice, it's good in gaming but it's also good in desktop use. I don't really want to use the stock cooling, because I'm not really sure, so I went with the dark rock pro 4 because it performs pretty well and it looks pretty good. Now about the PSU, the one that I have is a small one, so I decided to buy a normal-sized ATX PSU and with 750W, maybe overkill but I might upgrade my GPU in the future, so I decided to buy now one.
I will use the GPU, RAM, and Storage that I have now. Ram and Storage(M.2 NVMe) I will upgrade a little later.

My budget is around 1000€ and I'm from Germany.
What do you guys think, are the parts good and if you have better suggestions please share.
Thank you! :)
 

UsandThem

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You might want to consider a different motherboard: Starts showing the temperatures beginning around 5:07.

 

Arkaign

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If you rarely do heavy compute/encoding, I kinda feel this is a waste of money tbqh. For the gaming you describe, with a 2060 especially, you will see nothing of note for the effort.

Perhaps consider waiting for the Zen3 news in the fall timeframe. Right now you'd see a monumentally higher improvement in your described use case by spending that identical budget on a 2080 Super for example.
 
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VirtualLarry

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Unless he's a HFR CS:GO player; Zen2 seems to have an advantage over Intel in that game.

Honestly, I agree with @Arkaign . (Ok, I was thinking basically the same thing, that this would be mostly a side-grade for gaming purposes, but was afraid to speak it.)

If you're not doing anything that will take advantage of the extra cores and AVX2 abilities of Zen2 architecture, then for strictly gaming, you probably are better off, within the same budget, of upgrading your GPU, as Arkaign mentioned...

Not that there's any reason NOT to upgrade to a Ryzen rig, I did nearly three years ago, and hopped on the Zen2 bandwagon last year on release for my main rig. It's a great architecture, for all-purpose rigs, and especially for content-creation-type tasks. It has many cores available, the most of any consumer platform, plus it has HEDT variants and server variants with even MOAR COARS (if you need them).

Then again, if you have that upgrade itch, now is a good time to scratch it, DRAM and NAND are set to rise in price, and everything else (maybe not PSUs of high-caliber variety though) is well-priced in the market these days. So, yeah, upgrading now rather than later in a year or so might not be a bad idea either, if that's what you want to do.

(Edit: And who knows what kind of supply-chain SNAFUs are going to happen, due to worker shortages at factories and warehouses in China, due to CoronaVirus*.)

*Not related to the Beer of similar name in any way.


And gaming certainly won't be worse than your Skylake system, I don't think, at least compared to a non-K chip.
 

morphology3

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Thank you for all the answers.

I thought about what you guys recommended me and I decided not to upgrade the hardware part for now. I just might buy a new Case and a new PSU(ATX size).
And what do you guys think about the new Fractal Design Define 7, should I go with it or should I go with the Define S2?

With my current system, the I7 6700 NON K, if I buy a new GPU > 2080 Super, won't that create CPU Bottleneck?
 

Arkaign

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Thank you for all the answers.

I thought about what you guys recommended me and I decided not to upgrade the hardware part for now. I just might buy a new Case and a new PSU(ATX size).
And what do you guys think about the new Fractal Design Define 7, should I go with it or should I go with the Define S2?

With my current system, the I7 6700 NON K, if I buy a new GPU > 2080 Super, won't that create CPU Bottleneck?

It's actually about perfect for the moment, especially if you are running 1440p or Ultra settings. 6700k/7700k/2700x/3700x/etc all are still pretty close to maxing out anything but the most elite GPUs with mixed details when you're pairing with 144hz or 240hz gaming. Eg; disabling AA, running medium lighting and shadows, turning off RTX etc so you can chase 100+hz. And in that kind of edge case is the time you go for 3800x for AMD or 9700k/9900k/9900ks for the ultimate in HRR. For the vast majority of gamers, that's simply not worth it because you need 1080ti/2080s/2080ti and a HRR display and lowered details to even see the difference between say a 6700k or 2700x and a 3950x/9900ks.