Upgraded from 8800GT OC to a GTX 260. Benchmarks inside

[scheibler1]

I must say that I am happy I upgraded from my MSI 8800gt oc which was oc'd past the factory overclock. The new GTX 260 overclocks like crazy. I've found a stable overclock that is really high IMO and won't bother going any further.

I'm using EVGA's precision overclocking utility and run the card @ 720 core/1450 shader/2000 memory

Some quick benchmarks are:

Company Of Heroes built in benchmark. Everything was completely MAXED @ 1920x1200 including in game settings for AA/AF.

8800GT OC:
Average- 84
Max- 180
Min- 39

GTX 260 oc'd:
Average- 121
Max- 222
Min- 59

World In Conflict built in benchmark @ 1920x1200. All settings set to very high with 4xAA

8800GT OC:
Average- 33
Max- 64
Min- 14

GTX 260 oc'd:
Average- 37
Max- 86
Min- 16

Crysis benchmark utility @ 1920x1200 no AA

GTX 260 oc'd:
Average- 42.92
Max- 59.6
Min- 27.19

Crysis benchmark utility @ 1920x1200 4xAA

GTX 260 oc'd
Average- 42.56
Max- 58.65
Min- 42.56

3dmark06

8800GT oc- 11,310
GTX 260 oc'd- 12,210

----Real world game performance has definately changed. In COH I usually floated around 30-40 fps with the overclocked 8800gt. Now I'm usually at 80fps and will only dip to the 30's if I zoom in and rotate the camera up close with action going on.----

Crysis was also un-playable averaging below 15fps @ 1920x1200 on high. Now I'm usually in the 40's throughout the jungle missions @1920x1200 with no AA! I'm definately looking forward to crysis warhead this wed, farcry 2, and brothers in arms hells highway! Can't beat the $220 after rebate with a copy of crysis and massive overclocking potential to reach GTX 280 speeds! If anyone is interested I can run my own custom benchmarks with fraps for reeal world performance rather then timed demo's.

I thought about upgrading my cpu but I have a logitech G15 keyboard with an LCD. I can view my cu/memory usage while gaming. My CPU never gets above 85% and I can run every game out there @ 1920x1200 maxed...might as well not upgrade if I don't need to

 

[Shmee]

nice. I am not sure your oc is all that high though, idk. if a 260 clocks anything like a 9800 gtx, u should be able to get 2000 shader, and 2400 Memory. still, awesome core oc. and remember, when ocing, keep fan speed at 100% for max performance.

I have an evga 9800 gtx, stock= 675/1688/2200 got it to 810/2050/2450 reasonably stable. right now its stock, i dont play around with it much right now, may again later. so, keep playing with the memory and shaders. 2000 mhz is stock with memory, i think 1450 for shader is near stock. should be able to get the memory above 2500, just take it slow, and keep fan up and temps monitored.

EDIT: oops, my bad, shaders seem completely different with the gtx 200's. still, u should be able to get 2500 (it may read as 1250 mhz cuz its x2) like in this review. http://www.ocia.net/reviews/evgagtx260/page1.shtml

anyways, ill get back to u with my progress on the 9800 gtx oc xD

 

[Dadofamunky]

That looks like a good deal to me for $220, even though I don't really play games, I'm hopeless at it. I won't buy any more upgrades for my Intel system, but a nice little single-slot NVidia card might work quite well in my Shuttle...

 

[video1]

Nice indeed for $220 and impressed.

 

[error8]

I don't know, but you seem pretty limited by that cpu. There is an increase over your 8800 GT but I have the impression that it should have been bigger. Looking at WIC you have quite the same performance with this card that is so much faster then 8800 GT.
Overclock it more!

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: error8
I don't know, but you seem pretty limited by that cpu. There is an increase over your 8800 GT but I have the impression that it should have been bigger. Looking at WIC you have quite the same performance with this card that is so much faster then 8800 GT.
Overclock it more!

If his CPU usuage isn't going over 85%, he can't be.

I'd suggest tracking it with resource monitor (or at least task manager), they may be more reliable than the logitech app? Unless it just logs from task manager.

With dual monitors I enjoy o) watching resource monitor on the other screen of my gf's new machine, her 8500 seems to spike much more than my Q6600 in everyday usage, which I rarely ever see touch 100% on any core unless I'm priming.

 

[MarcVenice]

TBH, this is a pure case of a buyer convincing himself he did the right thing. Depending on what you do with your 8800gt or how much you can sell it for, I wholeheartedly disagree that the small improvement was worth $220.

 

[scheibler1]

I only paid $90 out of pocket. I already sold my 8800gt locally and an extra copy of crysis. I could barely play crysis @ 1680x1050 with a custom config. Now I can play Crysis all high dx9 without the need for a custom config. Company Of Heroes also is much more enjoyable. The benchmarks don't show it, but WiC is WAY smoother.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
TBH, this is a pure case of a buyer convincing himself he did the right thing. Depending on what you do with your 8800gt or how much you can sell it for, I wholeheartedly disagree that the small improvement was worth $220.

I agree with your assessment. Going from 33 to 37fps isn't what I call revolutionary. Neither is going from 84fps to 121fps.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
TBH, this is a pure case of a buyer convincing himself he did the right thing. Depending on what you do with your 8800gt or how much you can sell it for, I wholeheartedly disagree that the small improvement was worth $220.

I agree with your assessment. Going from 33 to 37fps isn't what I call revolutionary. Neither is going from 84fps to 121fps.

Upgrading his CPU should make further incremental improvement

it is much the same as going from an 8800ultra to a 4870
- or a GTX to a 4850; even a 8800GTX to 4870 is only about +20% faster across-the-board; i was disappointed in my 4870; otoh 280GTX and X2 satisfied me from 8800GTX - it is a "personal" feeling of satisfaction


all that matters is that the OP is satisfied with his upgrade

 

[scheibler1]

Yeah, I'm satisfied. It's not so much the benchmarks, but how smooth the gameplay is compared to the fluctuating fps of the 8800gt

 

[minmaster]

so it was about 150 $ more for the card? what if you got another 8800GT to SLI?

 

[scheibler1]

I got this for $90 out of pocket. About the same as another 8800gt for sli. I don't have a SLI mobo, but even if I did I'de rather have the gtx 260. It doesn't microstutter or have scaling issues

 

[cmdrdredd]

I wanna know which benchmark you used for crysis cause your numbers do not match up with any review, any forum post, and any testing I can find anywhere. I know you used DX9 and I even looked at those numbers.

 

[Raider1284]

Originally posted by: scheibler1
Crysis was also un-playable averaging below 15fps @ 1920x1200 on high. Now I'm usually in the 40's throughout the jungle missions @1920x1200 with no AA!

How is it that your 8800gt is performing 5+ fps less then it should, and your 260 is somehow performing 11+ fps better then it should? Either you are giving the wrong resolution, wrong settings, or its BS.

http://images.anandtech.com/re...IA/9800GTX+/crysis.jpg

overclocking will grant you no where near 11fps, even the newer 216SP model can get no where near 42fps. Are you saying your 260 is better then a 4870 X2?!

please explain.

**This is not meant to be taken as an attack, but I hate seeing all of these false claims and performance numbers spewed out everywhere.

 

[cmdrdredd]

You should probably detail all the settings you have on. Just telling us "high" means little as there's many things you can set to "low" or "medium" as well...post processing etc.

 

[sticks435]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
You should probably detail all the settings you have on. Just telling us "high" means little as there's many things you can set to "low" or "medium" as well...post processing etc.

Jesus, normally when someone says just "high" or "very high" in Crysis, they are talking about the overall setting. There IS a setting to set every single option to the same level.

 

[scheibler1]

I just selected "High" in the crysis benchmark @ 1920x1200 with 3 runs. Didn't mess with anything. I'm not here to argue or lie...just posting my results...

AND YES OVERCLOCKING THE GTX 260 DOES MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. Check out the overclockers.com review of the GTX 260 FTW edition. They overclocked it even more and it performs the same as a GTX 280 in many games

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: scheibler1
I just selected "High" in the crysis benchmark @ 1920x1200 with 3 runs. Didn't mess with anything. I'm not here to argue or lie...just posting my results...

AND YES OVERCLOCKING THE GTX 260 DOES MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. Check out the overclockers.com review of the GTX 260 FTW edition. They overclocked it even more and it performs the same as a GTX 280 in many games

there's 3 different benchmarks...I asked which one...

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: sticks435

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
You should probably detail all the settings you have on. Just telling us "high" means little as there's many things you can set to "low" or "medium" as well...post processing etc.

Jesus, normally when someone says just "high" or "very high" in Crysis, they are talking about the overall setting. There IS a setting to set every single option to the same level.

:roll:

That's all I'm going to say. You'd be surprised how many people say "OMG I get 2138289fps in <insert game here> on high" and then we find out they set shadows off or something that has a huge impact.

Nothing to hide IMO and a very valid question.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
TBH, this is a pure case of a buyer convincing himself he did the right thing. Depending on what you do with your 8800gt or how much you can sell it for, I wholeheartedly disagree that the small improvement was worth $220.

I agree with your assessment. Going from 33 to 37fps isn't what I call revolutionary. Neither is going from 84fps to 121fps.

Upgrading his CPU should make further incremental improvement

it is much the same as going from an 8800ultra to a 4870
- or a GTX to a 4850; even a 8800GTX to 4870 is only about +20% faster across-the-board; i was disappointed in my 4870; otoh 280GTX and X2 satisfied me from 8800GTX - it is a "personal" feeling of satisfaction


all that matters is that the OP is satisfied with his upgrade

I apologise if it's a stupid question, but if he isn't currently maxing out his cpu usage, how will upgrading his CPU assist?

At those resolutions and settings I would have thought his CPU is more than sufficient, and that he'll be GPU limited in pretty much all those circumstances?

 

[Raider1284]

Originally posted by: scheibler1
I just selected "High" in the crysis benchmark @ 1920x1200 with 3 runs. Didn't mess with anything. I'm not here to argue or lie...just posting my results...

AND YES OVERCLOCKING THE GTX 260 DOES MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. Check out the overclockers.com review of the GTX 260 FTW edition. They overclocked it even more and it performs the same as a GTX 280 in many games

Thank you for proving my point The overclockerclub review is using medium settings and they can only average 45, and the difference between medium and high is quite big. Also this "HUGE" difference you speak of is only 6 fps... and this is using medium settings, so at high settings the "huge" difference is probably <5 fps.


Even the 280GTX FTW cant get anywhere near mid 40s http://images.anandtech.com/re...rceGTX200/OCcrysis.png

** again, dont take this as an attack. I'm just trying to show what the card can actually do. and that it cant do 1920x1200 on default high settings, averaging in the mid 40s...

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Azn

Originally posted by: MarcVenice
TBH, this is a pure case of a buyer convincing himself he did the right thing. Depending on what you do with your 8800gt or how much you can sell it for, I wholeheartedly disagree that the small improvement was worth $220.

I agree with your assessment. Going from 33 to 37fps isn't what I call revolutionary. Neither is going from 84fps to 121fps.

Upgrading his CPU should make further incremental improvement

it is much the same as going from an 8800ultra to a 4870
- or a GTX to a 4850; even a 8800GTX to 4870 is only about +20% faster across-the-board; i was disappointed in my 4870; otoh 280GTX and X2 satisfied me from 8800GTX - it is a "personal" feeling of satisfaction


all that matters is that the OP is satisfied with his upgrade

I apologise if it's a stupid question, but if he isn't currently maxing out his cpu usage, how will upgrading his CPU assist?

At those resolutions and settings I would have thought his CPU is more than sufficient, and that he'll be GPU limited in pretty much all those circumstances?

i don't trust his CPU usage measurements

my own e4300@3.33Ghz was bottlenecking my 4870 - a little - and it is the near-equal of the 260; the performance delta was an 8% increase going to a e8600@3.33Ghz from e4300 [2MB cache vs 6MB and architectural improvements afaik]

and my e4300 has twice the cache of his CPU which is also 10% slower than either of mine

 

[sticks435]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: sticks435

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
You should probably detail all the settings you have on. Just telling us "high" means little as there's many things you can set to "low" or "medium" as well...post processing etc.

Jesus, normally when someone says just "high" or "very high" in Crysis, they are talking about the overall setting. There IS a setting to set every single option to the same level.

:roll:

That's all I'm going to say. You'd be surprised how many people say "OMG I get 2138289fps in <insert game here> on high" and then we find out they set shadows off or something that has a huge impact.

Nothing to hide IMO and a very valid question.

Ok, understandable. I guess I normally just pick a setting and go with it, or if I do turn a setting off, I make it a point to mention it. Guess I would think that if your on here, you'd know to do that, but as you stated above.

 

[Tempered81]

i was just curious about the 1920 Crysis benchmarks --> 1920 Crysis 4xAA benchmarks. It looks like 4xAA made no impact, but it should be about 35-40%.