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choliscott

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Hi Everyone, I was thinking of upgrading one of the computers from an X3 435 to either a 6300 or 8320, but trying to figure out which one to get.

Computer is mainly used for:

Media Server
Backup Computer
Simple Games (facebook), but sometimes it does get used for other games such as mindcraft (no special mods)
Possible video conversion

I wasn't really planning on OC as I don't think my board could probably handle a decent OC (Asus M5A78L-M LX)

I'm trying to figure out if to get the 6300 or pay the extra $30 & get the 8320, but truly trying to figure out if I actually need to spend the extra $30

Thanks
 
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For your purposes there should be no difference between your X3 and any faster CPU except for video conversion in which case a Phenom II X6 will outperform the FX-6300.
 
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FX6300 vs 1100T :
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=203
In video encoding they are pretty even(x264 2nd pass and win media encoder results are on par). In games 6300 has a slight edge.

FX8320 vs 1100T:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/698?vs=203
FX8320 is basically much better chip,especially in encoding and games.

Finally a X3 435 vs FX8320 comparison( there is no comparison..):
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/112?vs=698
8320 is massively faster than 435 in every workload. Then you can OC it if you need more performance and gain ~30% with 4.5Ghz OC which is fairly easy on air cooling. Imagine the difference then...
 
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choliscott

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Thanks for the info, but what's funny is that the board doesn't support a 1090-T or 1100-T, but will support the either the bulldozer or piledriver 125W cpu's

inf64 said:
FX6300 vs 1100T :
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=203
In video encoding they are pretty even(x264 2nd pass and win media encoder results are on par). In games 6300 has a slight edge.

FX8320 vs 1100T:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/698?vs=203
FX8320 is basically much better chip,especially in encoding and games.

Finally a X3 435 vs FX8320 comparison( there is no comparison..):
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/112?vs=698
8320 is massively faster than 435 in every workload. Then you can OC it if you need more performance and gain ~30% with 4.5Ghz OC which is fairly easy on air cooling. Imagine the difference then...
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Mallibu

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Sorry but the usage you describe is perfectly covered by the cpu you already have. Keep your money.
 
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Hubb1e

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Save your money for another day and another upgrade. This one is not worth it. The X3 is fine.
 
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bononos

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choliscott said:
Hi Everyone, I was thinking of upgrading one of the computers from an X3 435 to either a 6300 or 8320, but trying to figure out which one to get.

Computer is mainly used for:

Media Server
Backup Computer
Simple Games (facebook), but sometimes it does get used for other games such as mindcraft (no special mods)
Possible video conversion
.......
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Either one would be great for converting videos. Get the 6 core if you're worried about whether the mb can supply enough juice.
 
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I'd go with the FX 6300 personally for your motherboard and workload. It should be a noticeable increase over your triple-core.

Also, your motherboard supports a maximum of 125Watt cpu's but i'd rather use a 95Watt cpu like the 6300 because you won't be pushing the poor VRM's and Mosfets of that board to their max.

Also, that'll leave you some overclocking room for the FX 6300.
 
BD231

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Just grab a pII 955, way better than bulldozer/vishera and far cheaper.
 
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You dont need more then 4 core for what your doing.

You didnt mention vide editing with Premiere or DAW with Sonar X2 or autocad or studiomax or maya,,, Those apps are only reason to go above 4 cores. Way overkill ...
 
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Durvelle27 said:
Phenom - 3.7-4GHz OC

FX-4300 - 4.8-5GHz OC
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Not sure if serious. You're quoting avg. OCs for the Phenom II and very high OCs for the FX.

Realistic numbers looking at the motherboard would be around 3.6-3.8GHz for the Phenom II and 4.4-4.6GHz for the FX.

Anyway, I would go for the Phenom II because of the higher IPC.
 
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choliscott said:
Hi Everyone, I was thinking of upgrading one of the computers from an X3 435 to either a 6300 or 8320, but trying to figure out which one to get.

Computer is mainly used for:

Media Server
Backup Computer
Simple Games (facebook), but sometimes it does get used for other games such as mindcraft (no special mods)
Possible video conversion

I wasn't really planning on OC as I don't think my board could probably handle a decent OC (Asus M5A78L-M LX)

I'm trying to figure out if to get the 6300 or pay the extra $30 & get the 8320, but truly trying to figure out if I actually need to spend the extra $30

Thanks
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If you can afford it, get the FX8320 it will be much faster for video conversion else, FX6300 will be just fine.
 
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Mallibu

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Durvelle27 said:
Phenom - 3.7-4GHz OC

FX-4300 - 4.8-5GHz OC
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Not sure if serious. I know you have an FX processor and you are trying to like it and defend it, but this is borderline silly. Since when GHz are an absolute performance metric? It could overclock to 6ghz for all I care, but it would still be slower than a stock i5 3570k. So get yourself some sense.

Since FX has a 4ghz base speed (turbo included) and will play at 4.6 that means a 600 Mhz o/c. Phenom o/c's to ~4 ghz from 3.4, so he also gets a 600 Mhz o/c.

Phenom is better than the crappy 2module FX, so if anything, the prices should be higher for Phenom and lower for the FX4300.
At the current price state that Phenom is 30$ cheaper than FX4300 and also better performer, it's a no brainer.

Also what's up with people suggesting 8 core FX8320 to a guy that plays facebook games and says "possible video conversion", aka king of the casuals.
He's gonna need 8 cores to transcode 1 movie per day?

Keep your money, your 3-core is perfectly fine for your current use
 
Durvelle27

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Mallibu said:
Not sure if serious. I know you have an FX processor and you are trying to like it and defend it, but this is borderline silly. Since when GHz are an absolute performance metric? It could overclock to 6ghz for all I care, but it would still be slower than a stock i5 3570k. So get yourself some sense.

Since FX has a 4ghz base speed (turbo included) and will play at 4.6 that means a 600 Mhz o/c. Phenom o/c's to ~4 ghz from 3.4, so he also gets a 600 Mhz o/c.

Phenom is better than the crappy 2module FX, so if anything, the prices should be higher for Phenom and lower for the FX4300.
At the current price state that Phenom is 30$ cheaper than FX4300 and also better performer, it's a no brainer.

Also what's up with people suggesting 8 core FX8320 to a guy that plays facebook games and says "possible video conversion", aka king of the casuals.
He's gonna need 8 cores to transcode 1 movie per day?

Keep your money, your 3-core is perfectly fine for your current use
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how did a i5-3570K get mixed into this. i know for a fact that a FX-6300 & FX-4300 aren't faster than a i5-3570k.

To your crappy FX comment. Yes the Bulldozer FX chips were crappy and wasn't worth the money but the Vishera FX chips arn't crappy and provide better performance than a similar Bulldozer & Phenom II
 
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Mallibu

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Durvelle27 said:
how did a i5-3570K get mixed into this. i know for a fact that a FX-6300 & FX-4300 aren't faster than a i5-3570k.

To your crappy FX comment. Yes the Bulldozer FX chips were crappy and wasn't worth the money but the Vishera FX chips arn't crappy and provide better performance than a similar Bulldozer & Phenom II
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The i5 gets mentioned to show you that MHz does not mean anything, because you compared Overclocking of both CPU's in your previous post.

And since the FX 4300 is 30$ more, does it provide 25%-30% better performance also?
 
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Rvenger

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Sounds like the OP is getting the itch to upgrade. I'd recommend the FX-6300.
 
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LOL_Wut_Axel said:
Anyway, I would go for the Phenom II because of the higher IPC.
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IPC is kind of a weird thing to base a purchase on. I'd rather go for higher performance. Also, what clockspeed are you basing this IPC off of, and which application? IPC varies with those parameters.
 
Hatisherrif

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Keep your money and wait until Intel comes up with an alternative to the product you need right now, because you need to buy Intel.

They call it the sapphire law.
 
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