Question Upgrade Internal Network from 1gb to 10gb?

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Flourgrader

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Hello,
Can some knowledgeable person answer my question?
I have a TP-Link Archer VR2800 Router.
Its speed is 1 Gigabit across the internal Network on CAT6 cable.
I have 10 PCs on this Network.
I have a 1 Gigabit Netgear unmanaged switches.
My question is:
If I want to upgrade the internal network to 10 Gigabit
If I replace the 1 Gigabit switch for a 10 Gigabit switch
and install 10 Gigabit networking cards in the PCs.
Is that enough to achieve my goal?
OR
Do I have to replace the router as well with a 10 Gigabit speed ?
Thanks guys
 

ch33zw1z

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Read it here:

I think it was more than 28 ssd’s
I still stand by my comment. Sounds like a wonderful nerd project but a horrible idea.

Imagine having an entire wall of ssd’s and cabling for around 100 of them.
Someone looks at it and asks how much storage to you have in that, it is enormous.
Answer: 64GB

yea, that's lol worthy. I'd be happy standing up a FreeNAS with 4xRAID z2 + a hot spare, and some spares on the side. But damn, that's just too much money. Buying that many low volume SSD's and only getting 64GB? Nonsense.
 
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yea, that's lol worthy. I'd be happy standing up a FreeNAS with 4xRAID z2 + a hot spare, and some spares on the side. But damn, that's just too much money. Buying that many low volume SSD's and only getting 64GB? Nonsense.

Or as Larry said just get a damn nvme drive.
Even at $1 per cable x 96 drives that is $96 in cabling alone.
 
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Hans Gruber

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A RAID 0 makes perfect sense as long as you have a copy of data one end. You guys are talking data center logic and thinking. The OP wants to sling large amounts of data over a very short distance. If you are talking sending data and no source of backup, RAID 0 is nuts. I have had several RAID 0 setups over the years with spinner drives and SSD's. None ever failed. DATA center type stuff requires enterprise grade drives and redundancy.
 
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ch33zw1z

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A RAID 0 makes perfect sense as long as you have a copy of data one end. You guys are talking data center logic and thinking. The OP wants to sling large amounts of data over a very short distance. If you are talking sending data and no source of backup, RAID 0 is nuts. I have had several RAID 0 setups over the years with spinner drives and SSD's. None ever failed. DATA center type stuff requires enterprise grade drives and redundancy.

I'm glad you had a good XP with raid0's. In my personal machines, I've run a raid0 from time to time. OS only, my important data on other drives. I also haven't had a raid0 fail on my personal machines. But guess where I have seen it, data centers 😉. Customer didn't even realize it was raid 0 in the cases I've seen.

NVMe drives can saturate a 10gig link without raid0 at this point, so what's the harm in a little redundancy instead
 

Fallen Kell

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Yeah, I have seen plenty of dead RAID 0 setups, and several at work when the original admin who setup the system didn't realize the factory set RAID was RAID 0 (I can also say I was that guy once, but I did catch it before it became a problem, made a backup of the data that had been already stored, reconfigured the drives to a proper RAID 1, and reloaded the data).

A decent NVMe on a PCIe 4x Gen 3 or Gen 4 connection can saturate a 10Gb link now. Personally I went down the networked ZFS path, since I needed more bulk storage (~50TB of usable space on a 6 disk Raidz2 disk pool). The funny thing is the hard drives were 2x more expensive than the server (with 192GB of ECC RAM). I will say that if you do go ZFS, get as much ECC RAM as you can afford, it helps so much as it will be used for read/write cache.

Back on topic, once you start tasting the 10gig network and have a use case for it, you will then say to yourself, what about 40gig (especially if you have a storage server, hosting to multiple other computers).
 

VirtualLarry

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I used to be running a RAID-0 (AMD RaidXpert2) of NVMe 1TB 660p Intel M.2 SSDs. Though, I suspect something wasn't quite right with the drivers, or my RAM was being pushed a bit too far (4x8GB DDR4-3600 CAS18-22-22-xx, @ XMP), or something, because Skype kept losing my stored credentials, and there were other little tiny things that seemed slightly "off" sometimes. Like it was TRIM'ing the wrong sectors or something because of the RAID-0.

When I re-formatted, I stopped running RAID-0, instead, I have 1TB for OS drive, and 1TB for games. (The games don't get backed up in my backup jobs anymore.)
 

Makaveli

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A RAID 0 makes perfect sense as long as you have a copy of data one end. You guys are talking data center logic and thinking. The OP wants to sling large amounts of data over a very short distance. If you are talking sending data and no source of backup, RAID 0 is nuts. I have had several RAID 0 setups over the years with spinner drives and SSD's. None ever failed. DATA center type stuff requires enterprise grade drives and redundancy.

I have a Raid 0 setup of intel 160GB G2 drives in my i7-970 build recently retired that is still going after 10 years not a single issue.

My new build is also using 1TB 860 Evo's in Raid 0 for my games drive.