Upgrade from a 8800gts 512mb?

[Netic]

Hi,

I was reading tons of posts about upgrading to a new video-card but I can't seem to find a definitive answer. So, yea basically I would like to know wich video card should I buy under 200$ that would give me a lot of power for my money and atleast 50% increase performance over my 8800GTs 512mb. I'm using a 8800GTS 512mb (G92) video card mainly for FPS. I play BF:BC2 and MW2. I also play some RTS games like company of heroes and starcraft2 beta. I play on 1920x1080 resolution and i would like to turn on some AA settings.

For some general computer infomation I'm using a core i5 750 overclocked at 3.6ghz, 4gig of ram and a 750watt Antec truepower PSU.

Thank you for your Help

 

[Madcatatlas]

200$ will get you 19x10 but not that much AA enabled. Unless you opt for previous gen used cards

in other words, because of NO competion for the last 6 months, there are no new gen cards at the 200$ mark. You could opt for the 5770 which will do what i describe above. Or you could hold out for some fermi derivates coming in a few months

 

[superccs]

Yeah, I think the time to bu a new card has yet to arrive. Prices are still not settled, and Nvidia's gear has yet to really adjust demand or price of the newer cards yet.

 

[Chapbass]

Welcome to the forums Netic!

Honestly, I'm still using my 8800GTS 640mb thats even older than yours. Granted, im at 16x10 res. on a 22" monitor, but even so...not too many games are out there that make this card "unusable".

For 200 bucks? I would either save your cash...or MAYBE if you have a MB that can support it, get another one and do some SLI with it. Youd probably be able to pick up another 8800gt for pretty darn cheap I would imagine.

 

[Netic]

Thx for the help guys !

I guess that the best thing to do is wait for new fermi cards in the coming months or a price drop from ATI.

Anyway, I'll wait a couple months and watch for prices.


Thanks again !

 

[jimhsu]

I have the exact same card and play at 16x10. I can find no reason to upgrade right now - the 8 series is just that long lived. I might even consider a CPU upgrade (from E8400) before a GPU upgrade, because of the increasing number of apps that are slowly moving towards quad core. Things like rendering and some of my scientific apps are held back - games less so.

 

[digitaldurandal]

Welcome to the forums Netic!

Honestly, I'm still using my 8800GTS 640mb thats even older than yours. Granted, im at 16x10 res. on a 22" monitor, but even so...not too many games are out there that make this card "unusable".

For 200 bucks? I would either save your cash...or MAYBE if you have a MB that can support it, get another one and do some SLI with it. Youd probably be able to pick up another 8800gt for pretty darn cheap I would imagine.

This is terrible advice, a second 8800 will make you run hotter, use more juice, and honestly not net you very much performance in games where the 8800 is struggling. It also will not get you any extra features at all.

Sell the 8800 and get a 5770. Performance will increase and feature set will increase, heat and power usage will go down.

 

[digitaldurandal]

I have the exact same card and play at 16x10. I can find no reason to upgrade right now - the 8 series is just that long lived. I might even consider a CPU upgrade (from E8400) before a GPU upgrade, because of the increasing number of apps that are slowly moving towards quad core. Things like rendering and some of my scientific apps are held back - games less so.

e8400 is not going to bottleneck his 8800.

There may be a few games where the e8400 is holding back framerates but as resolution and settings rise, cpu bottleneck reduces.

My wife has my old 8800 and quite frankly it was holding me back at 1920x1200 years ago which is why she has it. I am a bit suprised so many people are saying they have no reason to upgrade from it.

What games are you guys playing, even at 16x10 with medium settings you are looking at 30 or less fps in BFBC2, Crysis, Dirt2, and it is only going to get worse as time progresses.

With an 8800 you do not even get physx, dx10, dx11, or a lot of the video decoding capabilities of a modern card.

 

[AzN]

This is terrible advice, a second 8800 will make you run hotter, use more juice, and honestly not net you very much performance in games where the 8800 is struggling. It also will not get you any extra features at all.

Sell the 8800 and get a 5770. Performance will increase and feature set will increase, heat and power usage will go down.

Does that warrant a new card though? G92 aren't particularly power hogs. it's just that 57xx series are excellent power savers.

From where I'm sitting 20-30% doesn't warrant a new card nor do features that's useless on a card like 5770.

Only thing that's worth while is the 5850 for some serious gaming. Don't get fooled by these mainstream GPU with 128bit because it can hang with last generation of cards. Newer games like Metro, BFBC2 choke the hell out of 5770.

 

[digitaldurandal]

Does that warrant a new card though? G92 aren't particularly power hogs. it's just that 57xx series are excellent power savers.

From where I'm sitting 20-30% doesn't warrant a new card nor do features that's useless on a card like 5770.

Only thing that's worth while is the 5850 for some serious gaming. Don't get fooled by these mainstream GPU with 128bit because it can hang with last generation of cards. Newer games like Metro, BFBC2 choke the hell out of 5770.

I went from the 8800 to a 285. I definitely suggest going to a 5770. 20 - 30% framerate increase can be the difference between playable and not easily. The difference in some games between them is even greater.

25 fps to 32.5 fps is an amazing difference, especially in minimum framerates

http://www.techspot.com/article/255-battlefield-bad-company2-performance/page4.html

This shows a 9800gt at 32.9fps and the 5770 at 45.1. These are averages which means the 9800 is constantly dipping under 30. This is a 40% increase in FPS for this game.

 

[digitaldurandal]

I think a 260 is even worth his money, but I wouldn't grab one over the 5770 right now.

 

[AzN]

I went from the 8800 to a 285. I definitely suggest going to a 5770. 20 - 30% framerate increase can be the difference between playable and not easily. The difference in some games between them is even greater.

25 fps to 32.5 fps is an amazing difference, especially in minimum framerates

http://www.techspot.com/article/255-battlefield-bad-company2-performance/page4.html

This shows a 9800gt at 32.9fps and the 5770 at 45.1. These are averages which means the 9800 is constantly dipping under 30. This is a 40% increase in FPS for this game.

the guy has a 8800gts with full 128SP not some cut version like 9800gt. About fast as 4850. Waste $100 just to get less than 10 fps performance difference @ 1680x1050.

Try OP's resolution of 1920x1080 and you will see 5770 choke in this game and so will a 8800gts. Waste money so you won't choke as hard! :awe:

 

[Chapbass]

This is terrible advice, a second 8800 will make you run hotter, use more juice, and honestly not net you very much performance in games where the 8800 is struggling. It also will not get you any extra features at all.

Sell the 8800 and get a 5770. Performance will increase and feature set will increase, heat and power usage will go down.

Hence why I said MAYBE. As in, doubtful, but if you absolutely had to you could. I certainly wouldn't I would wait, pocket my 200 bucks, and just not run AA at all. But whatever, not my situation.

 

[digitaldurandal]

the guy has a 8800gts with full 128SP not some cut version like 9800gt. About fast as 4850. Waste $100 just to get less than 10 fps performance difference @ 1680x1050.

Try OP's resolution of 1920x1080 and you will see 5770 choke in this game and so will a 8800gts. Waste money so you won't choke as hard! :awe:

http://www.techspot.com/article/255-battlefield-bad-company2-performance/page5.html

1920X1200 41.1 high quality 2x/4x

Wow, that is really choking hard!

Even the 5750 is stomping the 9800gt. While it is true that he has 16SP more than the 9800gt, it is the closest comparison in the charts.

 

[AzN]

http://www.techspot.com/article/255-battlefield-bad-company2-performance/page5.html

1920X1200 41.1 high quality 2x/4x

Wow, that is really choking hard!

Even the 5750 is stomping the 9800gt. While it is true that he has 16SP more than the 9800gt, it is the closest comparison in the charts.

OP HAS 8800GTS similar to 9800gtx and 4850 not 9800gt.

While you are at it why don't you compare that 5770 with 8600gt.

So you spend $100 so you can get 6 additional frames. If that's you go for it. :hmm:

 

[Netic]

Yea I have a 8800GTS 512mb with a core I5 750 and 4 gig of ram.

I have to agree that with a 3years old video card I can still play most of the games at High settings. All of my games that I play are running in 1920x 1080. I can even run crysis on HIgh settings and turn shaders to Enthusiast. So to turn ON AA and gain 50% Framerates i'll wait little bit longer to save money and get something better like a HD5850. Or get a new Fermi 460 card or I don't know but something that really worth's it.

Thank you for the advice tho.

 

[arredondo]

Just a few weeks ago I was (forced) in a similar situation. I needed to upgrade from my 8800 GTS 640 MB played at 1920x1080 because it died on me. Based on the advice here, I got a 5770 and immediately noticed a spike increase in average fps on Team Fortress 2 during crazy 12 v 12 battles (sentries, rockets, grenades, etc. blasting everywhere). This is the card you need IMHO, especially for the price.

If you want to pay more for a bigger card, keep in mind that on rigs with older CPUs, the ability to maximize them may be limited. That's why I didn't consider a 5850 (I have a quad-core Q6600 CPU) once someone offered that advice. You look like that may not be an issue, so it comes down to how much you are willing to pay.

 

[AzN]

OP has i5 750 so CPU won't be a problem.

I see 5770 as a 8600gts. At least in different time frame. Both mainstream cards that perform slightly under last generation of cards. Bigger cards have 2x the performance at least very close to it. Currently 5850 is cut line of upper mid-range. Of course if you aren't too serious about gaming or with smaller monitors you can get away with a 5770 or g92 for that matter. I only play 1 game exclusively anyway and it's 5 years old. At least until bf3 comes out so I can wreck havoc on faster and more maneuverable jets. :twisted:

 

[Netic]

AZN you should play BF:BC2 hehe

I was a hardcore BF2 player before

Anyway, I don't know if I would gain enough Frames with a 5770. I mean, I don't think it would be a good purchase if I get 30% framerate increase from a 8800GTS 512mb (G92).

I think its more worthy to get a long lasting video card like when I bought that 8800gts 512 still doing good in most of the games out there.

After reading a lot of the posts in here and other websites, I think that going under a HD5850 its not really a good idea. Since, I'm playing at 1920x1080 and I play the latest games that are very demanding on video cards.

BUt i'm thinking about one alternative. I could go with 2 hd4850 in crossfire for 200$. What do you guys think about performance?

 

[Rhezuss]

I have sold my HD 4850 512mb and bought a HD 5770 1gb which I've been using mostly for gaming. I play my games on a 23" LCD at 1920 x 1080 resolution. The games I play: Just Cause 2, GTA4, DA:O, Age of Conan, Risen, Divinity II, Civ 4 and AC1.

Just Cause is the more demanding game from the set and I can play it with more than enjoyable frame rate with most settings on high, shadows on medium, SSAO and Dynamic Lighting off, etc.

For the price, this is a little beast and OC pretty well I heard (i'm yet to OC mine). Full of features, low temps and wattage. It's certainly a winner in the 150-200$ range.

Just for the record, I got mine, Sapphire Vapor-X edition at 169CAD on special from newegg.ca.

 

[InfoTiger]

I think you can have my SAPPHIRE 100270SR Radeon HD 4850 X2 2GB for less than $200.
It's about 5850's performance.

 

[Pig_Death]

e8400 is not going to bottleneck his 8800.

There may be a few games where the e8400 is holding back framerates but as resolution and settings rise, cpu bottleneck reduces.

My wife has my old 8800 and quite frankly it was holding me back at 1920x1200 years ago which is why she has it. I am a bit suprised so many people are saying they have no reason to upgrade from it.

What games are you guys playing, even at 16x10 with medium settings you are looking at 30 or less fps in BFBC2, Crysis, Dirt2, and it is only going to get worse as time progresses.

With an 8800 you do not even get physx, dx10, dx11, or a lot of the video decoding capabilities of a modern card.

LOL.... The 8800 does do dx 10, and it is still a great card that can play most games great My dad still runs an 8800 gtx and he can play most games fine. Also the 8800 does physx as well . Get your facts right before you post again

 

[HumblePie]

I would try to save a few more bucks or sell something off you do not need and pick up a 5850. With bing cashback or some other deals out there, you can get a 5850 card for about $250 now again. Yah it basically the original MSRP, but it's not a bad deal considering.

The thing about video cards, or really any computer equipment, is you can always play the waiting game forever. You can always just "wait a few more months" for the next refresh, price drop, or card release. Sometimes that is advisable, many times it is not depending upon your needs.

Personally, if you are feeling the pinch in performance from your current card, I say it is time to upgrade. Find the best card for your money for the best price possible. Right now that is either a 5770 for $135, a 4890 for $180, or a 5850 for $250. I will say this. None of those card is going to go down drastically in price. They are all very much worth the price. However, my recommendation would be to do whatever you can to get the 5850. Like the 8800 series cards, I think it will keep you set for a few years to come.

 

[Puffnstuff]

After my 4890 died I started using my old 8800gts 512 and quickly became frustrated with it. Hell metro 2033 was a slideshow and I couldn't wait to put that thing back in its box. I'm quite pleased with the performance I get from my fermi's but for your specified budget range I'd do some reading and watch the prices on dx11 cards. It goes without saying that you'll have to go red for a card in that price range.

 

[blanketyblank]

5770 from an 8800GT is about 50% increase, and you should be able to go higher by OCing. On the other hand I saw someone buy a 5750 512 for $103 so you could get 2 of those to crossfire for a huge increase.
Personally I think the 1 GB VRAM on the 5770 is worth it, and you can always get a second one later with the money you saved.