UpdateNvidia GeForce GTX Titan Z postponed again

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Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan Z postponed again

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Originally the end of March announced by Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan Z should appear in April. The date was postponed. Unofficially, it was said that today the launch of the new dual-GPU flagship takes place - but this did not materialize. Information on a new date does not exist.

It also states that is "shifted indefinitely". Since it can be assumed that in the near future will be fine-tuned details such as clock speeds and the vote of the cooling system, so far can be put into circulation only specifications to speculation about the performance. It is clear that Nvidia GPU frequencies higher than initially planned takes to the Radeon R9 295X2 to offer AMD's forehead.


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Nvidia's GeForce GTX Titan Z are still waiting to be


Nvidia announced the graphics card in March at a high price of 2,999 U.S. dollars. In order to justify compared to the less than half as expensive Radeon card that price with about 1,300 euros, Nvidia has to offer a significant power increase. Otherwise, only a significant correction of the sale price would make competitive the prestige of product downward.

The at some point emerged in recent weeks performance forecasts and benchmarks for GeForce GTX Titan Z are currently unusable because the final specifications are not yet defined



Update:KitGuru

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...force-gtx-titan-z-available-in-coming-months/


Nvidia Corp. late on Thursday made the first official comment regarding availability of its dual-GPU flagship graphics card, the GeForce GTX Titan Z. The company reassured its investors and financial analysts that the product would be available in the second quarter of its fiscal year, but did not provide any exact dates.
“At the very high end, we announced our newest flagship GPU, the GeForce GTX Titan Z,” said Chris Evenden, the director of investor relations at Nvidia, during a conference call with financial analysts and investors. “This is the highest performance graphics card we have ever designed. The Titan Z will please both PC enthusiasts and CUDA developers and will be available in Q2.”
Nvidia’s second quarter lasts from May till late July, so, the company gives a rather broad window when it intends to start selling the product.
From the revenue stand-point, the GeForce GTX Titan Z is hardly important for Nvidia and its investors. Given the extreme price of the dual-chip flagship, it is unlikely that Nvidia can sell a lot of such graphics boards. In fact, even if Nvidia manages to sell several thousands of the Titan Z graphics cards (not really likely), their value will only be a small fraction of Nvidia’s total GPU sales (nearly $900 million in Q1 FY2015). However, The GeForce GTX Titan Z is important for Nvidia’s image of the leading GPU provider. The company must sustain performance king crown.

Nvidia GeForce GTX Titan Z is based on two Nvidia GK110 graphics processors in their maximum configuration with 2880 stream processors (as well as 240 texture units and 48 raster operations pipelines) that run at 705MHz in default mode and 889MHz in “boost” mode. The board is equipped with 12GB of GDDR5 memory (6GB with 384-bit bus per GPU) that operates at 7.0GHz effective frequency. The graphics solution boasts with 5760 compute units in total and delivers around 8TFLOPS of single-precision compute performance.
It is believed that at present Nvidia is polishing its drivers and is trying to boost GPU clock-rates of the Titan Z in order to make the graphics card more powerful than AMD Radeon R9 295X2. The dual-chip Titan Z graphics solution will cost starting from $3000 (£2330, €2835) without taxes.
 
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Techhog

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Oh god, Google Translate.

I wonder if they're planning significant changes.
 

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Perhaps Nvidia is working on a hybrid water cooling system to match or beat the 295X2 cooling solution. I mean they did announce the price at ~$3000 right? People spending that kind of money won't be thrilled if its cooler isn't as robust as a competing $1500 card.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised to see 3 fans on the card instead of just one. A hybrid cooling system would be pretty cool though!
 

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I wouldn't be surprised to see 3 fans on the card instead of just one. A hybrid cooling system would be pretty cool though!

Re-engineering the cooler isn't going to be cheap. Even then, unless they can boost clocks appreciably they aren't going to compete with the 295X2. I don't think an air cooler is going to allow that. They'd be better off releasing a 780tiX2 with an AIO cooler like AMD has done. IMO they need to remove the Titan-Z from the gaming market and market it exclusively as a compute card or drastically reduce the price and settle for having a slower dual GPU card than the 295X2. I don't think JHH will be happy with that alternative.
 

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Said to be drivers and clock bump. Nothing else. With this card you expect perfect drivers out the door.
 

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Said to be drivers and clock bump. Nothing else. With this card you expect perfect drivers out the door.

so titan z has special drivers?:awe:

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Said to be drivers and clock bump. Nothing else. With this card you expect perfect drivers out the door.

Presumably Titan-Z will consume even less power than GTX 780 Ti SLI (and way less power than 295X2), so the perf. per watt should be extremely good even with a clockspeed bump.

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Said to be drivers and clock bump. Nothing else. With this card you expect perfect drivers out the door.

I don't expect much from this card anymore. It was announed before the 295x2 and it is still not there.

I think they are shy to release it after the 295x2.

Oh, and by the way, the drivers for SLI GK110 has been out for more than a year and a half so I really doubt it's a driver question.

Presumably Titan-Z will consume even less power than GTX 780 Ti SLI, so the perf. per watt should be extremely good.

Can you explain how this is possible ? Except downclocking it, I don't see GK110 consuming less power.
 

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Can you explain how this is possible ? Except downclocking it, I don't see GK110 consuming less power.

I don't understand your question. You don't see how GTX Titan-Z will consume less power than two GTX 780 Ti in SLI?
 

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I don't understand your question. You don't see how GTX Titan-Z will consume less power than two GTX 780 Ti in SLI?

Yes, I don't understand how its possible to be really more efficient especially if they decide to increase the max boost/clock.
 

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Yes, I don't understand how its possible to be really more efficient especially if they decide to increase the max boost/clock.

GTX Titan-Z will likely have somewhat lower base clock and boost clock operating frequencies compared to GTX 780 Ti, irrespective of whether or not there is a clockspeed bump on Titan-Z.
 

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It's the same GPU. It can't be more efficient. It will be the same. You can downclock any GPU. Remember they are doubling the ram as well.
 

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Power efficiency of GTX Titan-Z should be similar to GTX 780 Ti SLI (assuming no special binning for the former), but Titan-Z should nevertheless consume less power than GTX 780 Ti SLI due to reduced GPU clock operating frequencies.
 

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For $3,000, NV can afford to put on a water cooling AIO with a 240mm rad... barely.

I think they won't do it - a matter of pride.

AMD having to go water because the heat output was just too much to handle with conventional means,
Nvidia will want to stick with air cooling - if nothing else, just to make a point of having better architecture.

GK110 is more efficient, but whether that's enough against improved CF? Apparently not. Hence the need for additional tweaking, maybe better binning.
 
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I think they won't do it - a matter of pride.

AMD having to go water because the heat output was just too much to handle with conventional means,
Nvidia will want to stick with air cooling - if nothing else, just to make a point of having better architecture.

GK110 is more efficient, but whether that's enough against improved CF? Apparently not. Hence the need for additional tweaking, maybe better binning.
I'm pretty sure they're tweaked and binned out by now, there's nothing left but better cooling and higher TDP
 

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I don't see what is the benefit of the Titan Z over the 295x2 anyway.

The Titan Z is a Triple slot with a Triple Slot output bracket with only 2 x DVI-D, 1 x DisplayPort and 1 x HDMI. The Titan Z cannot run triple 4k surround monitors at 60hz.

The R9 295x2 is a dual slot that can be changed into a single slot card with a waterblock. The outputs of the 295x2 are all located on the bottom of the output bracket, making it possible to have a single slot bracket. The R9 295x2 also have 4 x Display Ports and 1 x DVI-DL.

The R9 295x2 can run triple 4k eyefinity monitors at 60hz because of its display ports configuration.
 

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I'm pretty sure they're tweaked and binned out by now, there's nothing left but better cooling and higher TDP

I guess you are right.
Except for the drivers, ie. SLI scaling. There is room on that front. I bet that's why delays.
 

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I don't see what is the benefit of the Titan Z over the 295x2 anyway.

The benefit is primarily much less power consumption and no need to accommodate a water-cooled hardware setup. That said, this is obviously a card aimed at NVIDIA-centric gamers with deep pockets as well as NVIDIA-centric CUDA developers and researchers.
 

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The benefit is primarily much less power consumption and no need to accommodate a water-cooled hardware setup. That said, this is obviously a card aimed at NVIDIA-centric gamers with deep pockets as well as NVIDIA-centric CUDA developers and researchers.

Even people with deep pocket buy with their head.

Paying 1500$ more to save 100watts for an underclocked card... no thanks.