UPDATED: Perfect example of why NBA players are SCUMS.....

[Banana]

What's the other side of the story? I couldn't find any articles about Boozer and Jazz.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: 1YellowPeril
What's the other side of the story? I couldn't find any articles about Boozer and Jazz.

Cleveland let him loose so that they could sign him as a midlevel exception.
But He agreed for a 68 million with the Jazz.

 

[m2kewl]

Originally posted by: CTrain
Damm all you guys are missing the point.
Cleveland would have not made him an UNRESTRICTED FA if he didn't already agree to a new contract

I'm all for getting the most money you can but Cleveland rewarded him by letting him off a contract of $695K for next season.

So basically Boozer was bound for another yr at $695K. He say to Cleveland, "Hey let me out of my contract for next yr and I'll sign an extention.
Cleveland holds all the cards in this situation and Boozer basically backstabbed them.

how is that different from my boss giving me a raise if i offered to stay at my current job during my review. then i go get another job twice the pay and tell her to fvck off???

yes, i'll burn a bridge but i'll be rich, biaaatch! 😛

 

[Juno]

Originally posted by: 1YellowPeril
What's the other side of the story? I couldn't find any articles about Boozer and Jazz.

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[CTrain]

Originally posted by: FrancesBeansRevenge
I would take what I could get too...

Stop counting other people's money.

Once again.....totally missing the point.
Its not like hes a free agent and he needs to get the most money he can.....I'm all for that.
Hes a free agent only because Cleveland let him out of the contract with the understanding that he will resign with them

Don't you get it...if Cleveland weren't being generous.......Boozer would have not been able to sign with anyone this year and play for $695,000 this yr.

 

[Deadtrees]

Based on what you said...

1. Cleveland is stpuid as hell. They are in NBA and they don't even know how things work in NBA??? They don't even know how to use a written contract??? I really doubt if they were that stupid.

2. Carlos Boozer has every right to do whatever he wants to do. It's NBA, not a church-like-moral-testing event.

3. Let's say that 40 million $ may be enough for him (I don't really think so. For you, 40 million $ may be enough, but not for these guys). It still doesn't mean he should settle for 40 million $ although he can make extra 28 million $. These NBA guys must make as much as they can at any give time, 'cause he may get in an accident or something and lose everything.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Based on what you said...

1. Cleveland is stpuid as hell. They are in NBA and they don't even know how things work in NBA??? They don't even know how to use a written contract??? I really doubt if they were that stupid.

2. Carlos Boozer has every right to do whatever he wants to do. It's NBA, not a church-like-moral-testing event.

3. Let's say that 40 million $ may be enough for him (I don't really think so. For you, 40 million $ may be enough, but not for these guys). It still doesn't mean he should settle for 40 million $ although he can make extra 28 million $. These NBA guys must make as much as they can at any give time, 'cause he may get in an accident or something and lose everything.

As far as I'm concerned, nothing can be on paper yet.
There is a set date when players can start signing contracts.

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: m2kewl

Originally posted by: CTrain
Damm all you guys are missing the point.
Cleveland would have not made him an UNRESTRICTED FA if he didn't already agree to a new contract

I'm all for getting the most money you can but Cleveland rewarded him by letting him off a contract of $695K for next season.

So basically Boozer was bound for another yr at $695K. He say to Cleveland, "Hey let me out of my contract for next yr and I'll sign an extention.
Cleveland holds all the cards in this situation and Boozer basically backstabbed them.

how is that different from my boss giving me a raise if i offered to stay at my current job during my review. then i go get another job twice the pay and tell her to fvck off???

yes, i'll burn a bridge but i'll be rich, biaaatch! 😛

Totally different......this is the NBA sir.
Everyone is bound to a contract. If you don't honor the contract, you can't play any where else.
Simple as that.
If the NBA was like the real world....all the good players would play for the same team and win championship every year.
Stop comparing the real world to professional sports

 

[atom]

Like Cleveland did it out of the goodness of their heart. Sounds like they wanted a lock on him so they took a risk and it didn't pan out. Oh well.

 

[Sepen]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: CTrain
So this guy Carlos Boozer was a second round draft pick.
So being a 2nd round pick, Cleveland signed for for the usual 3 yr contract with the 3rd yr being a team option.
Boozer had a very good 2nd year average 15+ppg and 10+rpg.
Cleveland had him for the option 3rd yr for $695,000.
So for having a breakout season, Cleveland decided to reward the guy.
They are going to renounce his option 3rd yr(making him a unrestricted FA) if he agrees on a new contract 6yrs for $40 mil.
So he agrees to this so Cleveland made him an unrestricted FA.

Now he goes and sign with Utah for 6yrs/68mil

This guy is TOTAL SCUM !!

Before you plays devil's avocate and say he needs to get whatever he can.....WAIT....

a) Cleveland was giving him a raise from $695K to 5mil.
b) Cleveland was not going to make him an unrestricted FA if he didn't already told them he will sign a new contract.
c) So if he didn't think Cleveland offer is enough....Cleveland could have had him for another yr and maybe trade him or by next yr they have have more money to give him.

This is about as bad of a back stabbing can get.

28 million bucks is hard to give up 😛

yes but 40 mill is more then anyone shoudl ever need anyway

Tell that to Mike Tyson.

 

[Trey22]

Seems all that matters these days is the bottom line... it's a wicked business.

 

[z0mb13]

this is a huge blunder in cavs' part

that guy didnt honor his words, but cavs made a huge mistake by making this possible in the first place..

word of mouth does not mean anything nowadays

 

[jjones]

My only comment is that if the Cavs did what you say, then their management is stupid.

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Based on what you said...

1. Cleveland is stpuid as hell. They are in NBA and they don't even know how things work in NBA??? They don't even know how to use a written contract??? I really doubt if they were that stupid.

2. Carlos Boozer has every right to do whatever he wants to do. It's NBA, not a church-like-moral-testing event.

3. Let's say that 40 million $ may be enough for him (I don't really think so. For you, 40 million $ may be enough, but not for these guys). It still doesn't mean he should settle for 40 million $ although he can make extra 28 million $. These NBA guys must make as much as they can at any give time, 'cause he may get in an accident or something and lose everything.

The only thing I would agree with is #1.
Cleveland is dumd as hell but they can't get anything in writing until a certain date(July 15 I think) but they had to renounce a contract to make someone a FA before a certain date which I think they had to do.

2) No he can't. He was bound to another yr in his contract for $695,000 and he can't do sh!t about it.

3) This situation doesn't even come into play until Cleveland made him a FA.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Based on what you said...

1. Cleveland is stpuid as hell. They are in NBA and they don't even know how things work in NBA??? They don't even know how to use a written contract??? I really doubt if they were that stupid.

2. Carlos Boozer has every right to do whatever he wants to do. It's NBA, not a church-like-moral-testing event.

3. Let's say that 40 million $ may be enough for him (I don't really think so. For you, 40 million $ may be enough, but not for these guys). It still doesn't mean he should settle for 40 million $ although he can make extra 28 million $. These NBA guys must make as much as they can at any give time, 'cause he may get in an accident or something and lose everything.

difference is that they cant use a written contract under NBA rules...the only written contract was the $695,000 and they could not sign him to a new contract if they decided to pay him that much...

they wanted to help they guy and he told them if they release him he will sign back with them.

of course what he did was legal...its just a case of taking advantage of someone trusting

 

[CTrain]

I would agree with everyone who said Cleveland is stupid !!!!!!!!!
Yes they are but they'll being back-stabbed.

 

[Ranger X]

Oh calm down you baffoon. :|

What Carlos Boozer did was perfectly fine. In the game of basketball, there is no such thing as loyalty. Those that have loyalty are the ones that get burned in the end. If Boozer does worse next year, he'll see a significant drop in the amount of dollars other teams will throw at him. He had a breakout season and he should cash out while he has the opportunity.

You would do the same thing if you were in the same predicament. Play another year at poor man's salary and sign a 6yr/40mil contract or sign a 6yr/68mil contract now? It's a no-brainer.

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: atom
Like Cleveland did it out of the goodness of their heart. Sounds like they wanted a lock on him so they took a risk and it didn't pan out. Oh well.

Of course they want to lock him to a long contract.
But you have to remebered he is getting a hugh raise regardless with Cleveland.
Even if he didn't want an extention with Cleveland.......Cleveland till had the option for 1 more seasons and they could have easily explore trade options or maybe have more money under the cap room next season.

Cleveland held all the cards in this situation.
They got burn big time but it still makes Boozer look like a SCUM.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: Ranger X
Oh calm down you baffoon. :|

What Carlos Boozer did was perfectly fine. In the game of basketball, there is no such thing as loyalty. Those that have loyalty are the ones that get burned in the end. If Boozer does worse next year, he'll see a significant drop in the amount of dollars other teams will throw at him. He had a breakout season and he should cash out while he has the opportunity.

You would do the same thing if you were in the same predicament. Play another year at poor man's salary and sign a 6yr/40mil contract or sign a 6yr/68mil contract now? It's a no-brainer.

CONSCIENCE MOTHERFVCKER, DO YOU HAVE IT!?!?!

😀😀

 

[gunblade]

He definitely backstabbed Cavs.

Now cavs has to get a quality PF in order to stay competitive now.

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Originally posted by: CTrain

This is about as bad of a back stabbing can get.

No, that's greed and modern day professional sports in action.

 

[z0mb13]

I havent even heard of this guy

 

[CTrain]

Originally posted by: Ranger X
Oh calm down you baffoon. :|

What Carlos Boozer did was perfectly fine. In the game of basketball, there is no such thing as loyalty. Those that have loyalty are the ones that get burned in the end. If Boozer does worse next year, he'll see a significant drop in the amount of dollars other teams will throw at him. He had a breakout season and he should cash out while he has the opportunity.

You would do the same thing if you were in the same predicament. Play another year at poor man's salary and sign a 6yr/40mil contract or sign a 6yr/68mil contract now? It's a no-brainer.

Once again missing the point.....did you read the entire thing ???
Do I need to list the circumstances again ??

A)He was bound for another yr at $695,000....this is a FACT, he cannnot play anywhere else.
B) He only reason why he was let out of his contract was the promise that he sign an extention....which he renig.

 

[Ranger X]

Originally posted by: CTrain

Once again missing the point.....did you read the entire thing ???
Do I need to list the circumstances again ??

A)He was bound for another yr at $695,000....this is a FACT, he cannnot play anywhere else.
B) He only reason why he was let out of his contract was the promise that he sign an extention....which he renig.

I read the entire thread and I read the article on him signing the offer sheet. The Cavs made a mistake and they have no one but themselves to blame. Boozer should not be held liable for non-binding oral agreements that he makes with the team because again, there is no such thing as loyalty. You are over reacting on his decision to play elsewhere for more money, it's simple as that. Is it unethical? Perhaps, but he did nothing illegal. It's all fair in my books.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: Ranger X

Originally posted by: CTrain

Once again missing the point.....did you read the entire thing ???
Do I need to list the circumstances again ??

A)He was bound for another yr at $695,000....this is a FACT, he cannnot play anywhere else.
B) He only reason why he was let out of his contract was the promise that he sign an extention....which he renig.

I read the entire thread and I read the article on him signing the offer sheet. The Cavs made a mistake and they have no one but themselves to blame. Boozer should not be held liable for non-binding oral agreements that he makes with the team because again, there is no such thing as loyalty. You are over reacting on his decision to play elsewhere for more money, it's simple as that. Is it unethical? Perhaps, but he did nothing illegal. It's all fair in my books.

so u think unethical things are fair as long as they arent illegal?