UPDATED: Perfect example of why NBA players are SCUMS.....

CTrain

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So this guy Carlos Boozer was a second round draft pick.
So being a 2nd round pick, Cleveland signed for for the usual 3 yr contract with the 3rd yr being a team option.
Boozer had a very good 2nd year average 15+ppg and 10+rpg.
Cleveland had him for the option 3rd yr for $695,000.
So for having a breakout season, Cleveland decided to reward the guy.
They are going to renounce his option 3rd yr(making him a unrestricted FA) if he agrees on a new contract 6yrs for $40 mil.
So he agrees to this so Cleveland made him an unrestricted FA.

Now he goes and sign with Utah for 6yrs/68mil

This guy is TOTAL SCUM !!


Before you plays devil's avocate and say he needs to get whatever he can.....WAIT....

a) Cleveland was giving him a raise from $695K to 5mil.
b) Cleveland was not going to make him an unrestricted FA if he didn't already told them he will sign a new contract.
c) So if he didn't think Cleveland offer is enough....Cleveland could have had him for another yr and maybe trade him or by next yr they have have more money to give him.

This is about as bad of a back stabbing can get.
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: CTrain
So this guy Carlos Boozer was a second round draft pick.
So being a 2nd round pick, Cleveland signed for for the usual 3 yr contract with the 3rd yr being a team option.
Boozer had a very good 2nd year average 15+ppg and 10+rpg.
Cleveland had him for the option 3rd yr for $695,000.
So for having a breakout season, Cleveland decided to reward the guy.
They are going to renounce his option 3rd yr(making him a unrestricted FA) if he agrees on a new contract 6yrs for $40 mil.
So he agrees to this so Cleveland made him an unrestricted FA.

Now he goes and sign with Utah for 6yrs/68mil

This guy is TOTAL SCUM !!


Before you plays devil's avocate and say he needs to get whatever he can.....WAIT....

a) Cleveland was giving him a raise from $695K to 5mil.
b) Cleveland was not going to make him an unrestricted FA if he didn't already told them he will sign a new contract.
c) So if he didn't think Cleveland offer is enough....Cleveland could have had him for another yr and maybe trade him or by next yr they have have more money to give him.

This is about as bad of a back stabbing can get.

28 million bucks is hard to give up :p
 

m2kewl

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it's all about the bling bling $$$...there's no loyalty.

if you can work it...more power to you ;)
 

Juno

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I HOPE KENYON MARTIN DOES NOT LEAVE NETS!!

Please forgive my caps lock.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: CTrain
So this guy Carlos Boozer was a second round draft pick.
So being a 2nd round pick, Cleveland signed for for the usual 3 yr contract with the 3rd yr being a team option.
Boozer had a very good 2nd year average 15+ppg and 10+rpg.
Cleveland had him for the option 3rd yr for $695,000.
So for having a breakout season, Cleveland decided to reward the guy.
They are going to renounce his option 3rd yr(making him a unrestricted FA) if he agrees on a new contract 6yrs for $40 mil.
So he agrees to this so Cleveland made him an unrestricted FA.

Now he goes and sign with Utah for 6yrs/68mil

This guy is TOTAL SCUM !!


Before you plays devil's avocate and say he needs to get whatever he can.....WAIT....

a) Cleveland was giving him a raise from $695K to 5mil.
b) Cleveland was not going to make him an unrestricted FA if he didn't already told them he will sign a new contract.
c) So if he didn't think Cleveland offer is enough....Cleveland could have had him for another yr and maybe trade him or by next yr they have have more money to give him.

This is about as bad of a back stabbing can get.

28 million bucks is hard to give up :p

yes but 40 mill is more then anyone shoudl ever need anyway
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: CTrain
So this guy Carlos Boozer was a second round draft pick.
So being a 2nd round pick, Cleveland signed for for the usual 3 yr contract with the 3rd yr being a team option.
Boozer had a very good 2nd year average 15+ppg and 10+rpg.
Cleveland had him for the option 3rd yr for $695,000.
So for having a breakout season, Cleveland decided to reward the guy.
They are going to renounce his option 3rd yr(making him a unrestricted FA) if he agrees on a new contract 6yrs for $40 mil.
So he agrees to this so Cleveland made him an unrestricted FA.

Now he goes and sign with Utah for 6yrs/68mil

This guy is TOTAL SCUM !!


Before you plays devil's avocate and say he needs to get whatever he can.....WAIT....

a) Cleveland was giving him a raise from $695K to 5mil.
b) Cleveland was not going to make him an unrestricted FA if he didn't already told them he will sign a new contract.
c) So if he didn't think Cleveland offer is enough....Cleveland could have had him for another yr and maybe trade him or by next yr they have have more money to give him.

This is about as bad of a back stabbing can get.

28 million bucks is hard to give up :p

yes but 40 mill is more then anyone shoudl ever need anyway

Doesn't matter if 40 mill is more than anyone should ever need.
He was offered 28million more by a different franchise and Cleveland was not paying that.
 
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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: CTrain
So this guy Carlos Boozer was a second round draft pick.
So being a 2nd round pick, Cleveland signed for for the usual 3 yr contract with the 3rd yr being a team option.
Boozer had a very good 2nd year average 15+ppg and 10+rpg.
Cleveland had him for the option 3rd yr for $695,000.
So for having a breakout season, Cleveland decided to reward the guy.
They are going to renounce his option 3rd yr(making him a unrestricted FA) if he agrees on a new contract 6yrs for $40 mil.
So he agrees to this so Cleveland made him an unrestricted FA.

Now he goes and sign with Utah for 6yrs/68mil

This guy is TOTAL SCUM !!


Before you plays devil's avocate and say he needs to get whatever he can.....WAIT....

a) Cleveland was giving him a raise from $695K to 5mil.
b) Cleveland was not going to make him an unrestricted FA if he didn't already told them he will sign a new contract.
c) So if he didn't think Cleveland offer is enough....Cleveland could have had him for another yr and maybe trade him or by next yr they have have more money to give him.

This is about as bad of a back stabbing can get.

28 million bucks is hard to give up :p

yes but 40 mill is more then anyone shoudl ever need anyway

Doesn't matter if 40 mill is more than anyone should ever need.
He was offered 28million more by a different franchise and Cleveland was not paying that.

cleveland couldnt pay that much do to cap room i think...they were gonna pay every $ they could
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: CTrain
So this guy Carlos Boozer was a second round draft pick.
So being a 2nd round pick, Cleveland signed for for the usual 3 yr contract with the 3rd yr being a team option.
Boozer had a very good 2nd year average 15+ppg and 10+rpg.
Cleveland had him for the option 3rd yr for $695,000.
So for having a breakout season, Cleveland decided to reward the guy.
They are going to renounce his option 3rd yr(making him a unrestricted FA) if he agrees on a new contract 6yrs for $40 mil.
So he agrees to this so Cleveland made him an unrestricted FA.

Now he goes and sign with Utah for 6yrs/68mil

This guy is TOTAL SCUM !!


Before you plays devil's avocate and say he needs to get whatever he can.....WAIT....

a) Cleveland was giving him a raise from $695K to 5mil.
b) Cleveland was not going to make him an unrestricted FA if he didn't already told them he will sign a new contract.
c) So if he didn't think Cleveland offer is enough....Cleveland could have had him for another yr and maybe trade him or by next yr they have have more money to give him.

This is about as bad of a back stabbing can get.

28 million bucks is hard to give up :p

yes but 40 mill is more then anyone shoudl ever need anyway

Tell Michael Jackson/Mike Tyson that :p
 

txxxx

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Originally posted by: CTrain
So this guy Carlos Boozer was a second round draft pick.
So being a 2nd round pick, Cleveland signed for for the usual 3 yr contract with the 3rd yr being a team option.
Boozer had a very good 2nd year average 15+ppg and 10+rpg.
Cleveland had him for the option 3rd yr for $695,000.
So for having a breakout season, Cleveland decided to reward the guy.
They are going to renounce his option 3rd yr(making him a unrestricted FA) if he agrees on a new contract 6yrs for $40 mil.
So he agrees to this so Cleveland made him an unrestricted FA.

Now he goes and sign with Utah for 6yrs/68mil

This guy is TOTAL SCUM !!


Before you plays devil's avocate and say he needs to get whatever he can.....WAIT....

a) Cleveland was giving him a raise from $695K to 5mil.
b) Cleveland was not going to make him an unrestricted FA if he didn't already told them he will sign a new contract.
c) So if he didn't think Cleveland offer is enough....Cleveland could have had him for another yr and maybe trade him or by next yr they have have more money to give him.

This is about as bad of a back stabbing can get.

And you'd refuse $28 million extra for playing basketball too? I'd like to see you try :)
 
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I feel sorry for Utah for thinking he's worth that $68 million. Hmmm, Cleveland is offering him $40 million for 6 years. Utah decides to trounce that by $28 million? Sounds like the Jazz management suck hard.

On the other hand, Boozer has one hell of an agent.
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: blurredvision
I feel sorry for Utah for thinking he's worth that $68 million. Hmmm, Cleveland is offering him $40 million for 6 years. Utah decides to trounce that by $28 million? Sounds like the Jazz management suck hard.

On the other hand, Boozer has one hell of an agent.

He may not be worth 68 million but he's proven himself to be a great player on a subpar team.
Boozer is a poor mans Kenyon Martin.

Looks like one less team for Kenyon Martin to choose from :D
 

PoPPeR

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um. Call me naive, but I highly doubt that's the exact way the story went down. People that own basketball teams are multi-millionaires or billionaires. They did not get there by taking the word of other people. They are business people, they know how business works. If Carlos Boozer told them "make me a unrestricted free agent and i'll sign this contract with you," you can sure as hell bet they'd get that in writing first.
 
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Originally posted by: PoPPeR
um. Call me naive, but I highly doubt that's the exact way the story went down. People that own basketball teams are multi-millionaires or billionaires. They did not get there by taking the word of other people. They are business people, they know how business works. If Carlos Boozer told them "make me a unrestricted free agent and i'll sign this contract with you," you can sure as hell bet they'd get that in writing first.

well I dont know what happened, but it is true that the Cavs could have paid him $695,000 this coming season and then had the right to match any offer given by any other team after the season

sounds pretty dumb on the Cavs part to me
 

CTrain

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Damm all you guys are missing the point.
Cleveland would have not made him an UNRESTRICTED FA if he didn't already agree to a new contract

I'm all for getting the most money you can but Cleveland rewarded him by letting him off a contract of $695K for next season.

So basically Boozer was bound for another yr at $695K. He say to Cleveland, "Hey let me out of my contract for next yr and I'll sign an extention.
Cleveland holds all the cards in this situation and Boozer basically backstabbed them.
 

Entity

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Originally posted by: CTrain
Damm all you guys are missing the point.
Cleveland would have not made him an UNRESTRICTED FA if he didn't already agree to a new contract

I'm all for getting the most money you can but Cleveland rewarded him by letting him off a contract of $695K for next season.

So basically Boozer was bound for another yr at $695K. He say to Cleveland, "Hey let me out of my contract for next yr and I'll sign an extention.
Cleveland holds all the cards in this situation and Boozer basically backstabbed them.

Why the hell wouldn't they get that in writing? I refuse to take the side of anyone who would really be that stupid about anything. :confused:

Rob
 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: maddogchen
So thats why the K-Mart trip was cancelled....

That's good.
We want him in NJ.

Now you just have to hope Denver signs Ginobili for 9 mil, then all thats left is Hawks or Nets, and i don't think he's that dumb to choose the Hawks
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: PoPPeR
um. Call me naive, but I highly doubt that's the exact way the story went down. People that own basketball teams are multi-millionaires or billionaires. They did not get there by taking the word of other people. They are business people, they know how business works. If Carlos Boozer told them "make me a unrestricted free agent and i'll sign this contract with you," you can sure as hell bet they'd get that in writing first.

Thats the problem, you can't get any in writing.
Remembered the Joe Smith situation in Minnesota ???

Tell me this....Why in the world did Clevelend make him an unrestricted FA......when they had him for 1 more yr at $695K ???
So Cleveland jsut decided to make him a FA so he can sign with another team ???
You think they are that dumb to do that if both side didn't agree to something first ??
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: isekii
Originally posted by: CTrain
So this guy Carlos Boozer was a second round draft pick.
So being a 2nd round pick, Cleveland signed for for the usual 3 yr contract with the 3rd yr being a team option.
Boozer had a very good 2nd year average 15+ppg and 10+rpg.
Cleveland had him for the option 3rd yr for $695,000.
So for having a breakout season, Cleveland decided to reward the guy.
They are going to renounce his option 3rd yr(making him a unrestricted FA) if he agrees on a new contract 6yrs for $40 mil.
So he agrees to this so Cleveland made him an unrestricted FA.

Now he goes and sign with Utah for 6yrs/68mil

This guy is TOTAL SCUM !!


Before you plays devil's avocate and say he needs to get whatever he can.....WAIT....

a) Cleveland was giving him a raise from $695K to 5mil.
b) Cleveland was not going to make him an unrestricted FA if he didn't already told them he will sign a new contract.
c) So if he didn't think Cleveland offer is enough....Cleveland could have had him for another yr and maybe trade him or by next yr they have have more money to give him.

This is about as bad of a back stabbing can get.

28 million bucks is hard to give up :p

yes but 40 mill is more then anyone shoudl ever need anyway

Tell Michael Jackson/Mike Tyson that :p

not my fault if you a moron and piss it all away
 

CTrain

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Originally posted by: Entity
Originally posted by: CTrain
Damm all you guys are missing the point.
Cleveland would have not made him an UNRESTRICTED FA if he didn't already agree to a new contract

I'm all for getting the most money you can but Cleveland rewarded him by letting him off a contract of $695K for next season.

So basically Boozer was bound for another yr at $695K. He say to Cleveland, "Hey let me out of my contract for next yr and I'll sign an extention.
Cleveland holds all the cards in this situation and Boozer basically backstabbed them.

Why the hell wouldn't they get that in writing? I refuse to take the side of anyone who would really be that stupid about anything. :confused:

Rob

Remembered the Joe Smith incident in Minnesota ???
Some's verbal agreement should be good especially when the Cavs were trying to reward this guy.