UPDATED !!! Help need on MOBO decision PLEASE !!! UPDATED

Fisher999

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Guys I'm building a new system. I ALREADY have previously purchased some of the components in 2002 that will be used in the system like a WD 100 GB/8MB Cache/7200 RPM/ATA 100 hard drive, Lite-On LTR-40125S 40X12X48X CD-RW, Pioneer DVD-106S DVD-ROM, Hercules Game Theatre XP soundcard/box (the original model), Logitech Z-560 THX Certified 4.1 speaker system, Logitech Cordless Desktop Pro Mouse/Keyboard, Samsung AG-type 19" monitor and possible a newer 17" or 19" TFT LCD display...

The main PURPOSES for which I will be using this PC are :

1) Digital Image Editing from images captured from a Digital Camera or Digital Camcorder with possible future DVD encoding
2) CD burning ? transfer of vinyl/CD to PC music file formats
3) Microsoft Office products
4) Web browsing
5) Limited gaming

BTW, this will be about my 11th system build since 1998.

In addition to the components mentione above I have decided on an Athlon 64 3000+ "Winchester" Socket 939 CPU.

I have already purchased 1 GB of Patriot 2-3-2-5-T1 DDR400 and an Asus EAX-700X/TD/128 Radeon x700 PCI-E graphics card and a Fortron Soucre AX-500 A P/S.

I will need a socket 939 board for the Athlon.

I have decided on an nForce 4 Ultra board.

May I ask your advice on the nForce4 ULTRA boards I am considering???


The FIRST candidate is this ASUS A8N-E Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra which (along with wonderful ASUS quality and good board layout) has the obligatory SATA150, onboard LAN, 8 channel audio, parallel (but no serial) port and plenty of USB 2.0. Then I realized it DOESN'T have onboard firewire. I realize I could get a PCI/firewire adapter card for $20 delivered like the Koutech at NewEgg but that swallows up one of the PCI slots and I will probably need a (3) Legacy 32 bit PCI slots.

Now I will probably have no use for SLI but this ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI board doesn't sacrifice a PCI slot to add the additional PCI-E graphics slot, it has onboard firewire, Gigabit LAN, onboard 8 channel Realtek audio, SATA 300 (not 150) and tons of USB 2.0 ports/headers.

The last two considerations are the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra board and the GIGABYTE GA-K8N Ultra-9 Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra board. (I ruled out the EPoX 9NPA+ Ultra because I don't like the placement of the P/S connector). Both the MSI and Gigabyte boards are quite similar.

The MSI board has (4) PCI slots, SATA 300, (2) Gigabit LANs, 8 channel Realtek audio, plenty of USB 2.0 and onboard firewire. The Gigabyte has one less PCI slot (3) but has (2) firwires with everything else being very similar to the MSI's feature set.

The Gigabyte board, the GA-K8N Ultra-9 uses a passive rathe than an active HSF on the northbridge. Although it is close to the video slot I realize the benefit of quiteness that would come with a passive rather than an active solution. Of course, noise is a critical element when building a HTPC box.


BTW, I have also ruled out the wonderful DFI nForce4 Ultra series of motheboards because they only have two standard PCI slots (I will probably need 3) and because they leave out the legacy parallel port which I will need for my legacy printer and because I am neither an overclocker nor a gamer and the DFI boards cater to that crowd. ;)

Finally a new dillema has arrived since I originally posted this thread and this thread over here at Anandtech. That is, the vanilla, non-ultra Nforce4 based MSI K8N Neo4-F for $93.50 delivered at NewEgg. Do you think this board would be a nice trade-off??? Someone, somewhere here at anandtech told me that the MSI nForce4 boards can be a little tricky to set up and that the HSF on the NForce4 chip is noisy.......

What is your opinion of the options ???

Again, your responses will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Greg

 

shoRunner

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Originally posted by: shoRunner
i'd go with the MSI, or if you want a cheaper solution the ecs(yeah i'll get flamed for that one). i haven't seen a bad review for the ECS and they are a huge manufacture, supplying many OEMs. the only cons i can see are, not the best overclocking options and a less than stellar onboard audio. other than that its cheaper than the rest and has almost all the features you could want

 

Fisher999

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
The Chaintech is a good budget NF4 ultra board from what I understand.

I've heard some nice things about the Chaintech too but I ruled it out on the basis of Chaintech's reputaion.

I'm hoping people will base thier opinions on the mobo options mentioned.

Thanks,

Greg

 

Fisher999

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Originally posted by: shoRunner
Originally posted by: shoRunner
i'd go with the MSI, or if you want a cheaper solution the ecs(yeah i'll get flamed for that one). i haven't seen a bad review for the ECS and they are a huge manufacture, supplying many OEMs. the only cons i can see are, not the best overclocking options and a less than stellar onboard audio. other than that its cheaper than the rest and has almost all the features you could want

Sho, nice to see you again.

Yeah I'm still draggin' my feet on the mobo decision but I'm closer. Actually the MSI is way up there on the list (but so is the Asus SLI). I had to consider the ECS 'cause it seems like a good bargain.

I'll give it some more thought and wait for som more opinions but THANkS !!!

 

Dude get a Asus any it doesn't really matter because asus make some of the best motherboards.
 

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CHAINTECH VNF4/Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail 84.00
at first i was skeptical about the chaintech brand motherboard but after i started hearing good reviews and ppl recomended it i decided to give it a try and i love it ! i had no probelms setting it up ( it was plug and play for me) and no stabilty issues also its a great overclocker ! here are some reviews

http://www.ninjalane.com/display.aspx?docname=vnf4ultra
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/vnf4ultra/
 

Fisher999

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Originally posted by: Gadzookie
CHAINTECH VNF4/Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail 84.00
at first i was skeptical about the chaintech brand motherboard but after i started hearing good reviews and ppl recomended it i decided to give it a try and i love it ! i had no probelms setting it up ( it was plug and play for me) and no stabilty issues also its a great overclocker ! here are some reviews

http://www.ninjalane.com/display.aspx?docname=vnf4ultra
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/vnf4ultra/


I've had a few recommendations for the Chaintech Gadzookie but was also skeptical because of the "Chaintech Name". Thanks for the links, I appreciate it.

Greg
 

Rike

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My Asus SLI board has been good to me. Check out my sig. It is rock solid, even overclocked.
 

Fisher999

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Originally posted by: Rike
My Asus SLI board has been good to me. Check out my sig. It is rock solid, even overclocked.

Thanks Rike!

Your system sounds awesome !!!

Are the SLI boards, like the Asus, tricky to set-up (as I have been told) only when you are doing SLI?

In other words, would the set-up on the Asus A8N-SLI be similar to the set-up if one were using the non SLI Asus A8N-E if using just one PCI-E card???

Some people have been posting that they dosn't think Asus=quality anymore and I've always thought of them that way.

Do you think they're nuts, lol ???

Do you like your Patriot RAM ??? I know it's dumb to purchase the RAM BEFORE the mobo but a forum member talked me into purchasing this 1 GB (512 X 2) of Patriot DDR400 2-3-2-5-T1 RAM. Do you think it and the Asus board (either the A8N-E or the A8N-SLI) will "get along"???

Thanks for you input,

Greg
 

ribbon13

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That ram is fine.

Chaintech is alright. Make sure to update the BIOS as soon as you get it though.

Asus has slipped down a little, but most of the issues with the A8N-SLI are PEBKACs

If you can get away with a single HDTV tuner and a Soundcard, I'd still ay DFI.

The MSI non-ultra looks nice as well.
 

Rike

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Originally posted by: Fisher999
Originally posted by: Rike
My Asus SLI board has been good to me. Check out my sig. It is rock solid, even overclocked.

Thanks Rike!

Your system sounds awesome !!!

Are the SLI boards, like the Asus, tricky to set-up (as I have been told) only when you are doing SLI?

In other words, would the set-up on the Asus A8N-SLI be similar to the set-up if one were using the non SLI Asus A8N-E if using just one PCI-E card???

Some people have been posting that they dosn't think Asus=quality anymore and I've always thought of them that way.

Do you think they're nuts, lol ???

Do you like your Patriot RAM ??? I know it's dumb to purchase the RAM BEFORE the mobo but a forum member talked me into purchasing this 1 GB (512 X 2) of Patriot DDR400 2-3-2-5-T1 RAM. Do you think it and the Asus board (either the A8N-E or the A8N-SLI) will "get along"???

Thanks for you input,

Greg

I can't speak for other people, but Asus has not let me down yet. Just remember that for every negitive post about someone's bad experience, dozens of others have no problems at all. My SLI board was no more difficult to set up than any other build I've had and the two Asus 939 mobos should be the same for set up.

The the RAM you have will be fine with the Asus board; it's the same stuff I have. My only disappointment with that RAM is that I was hoping it would OC better.
 

Away

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Go with the budget MSI. I have dealt with several of there non-platinum boards and they all work great. They usually just sacrifice minor things like firewire. Other than that, they perform equally.