Updated FactCheck.org info on Swiftboat liars

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: charrison
And yes that is what the previous documents said. The newly released document and previously released document agree that he was not there from OCT to the end of the year while helping run a senate campaign. That does not make him AWOL as all training had been completed.

Even better! He never reported once between the end of May until Oct and now you say he also was absetnt from Oct through Dec?

May to october. My mistake. This really has never been in question. And it still does not make him AWOL>

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: PELarson

Originally posted by: X-Man
If the Swiftboat vets are lying, then why doesn't John Kerry just release the rest of his military records to prove them wrong, once and for all?

What else do you want?

He hasn't released all of his medical records, most particularly those in regards to his Purple Hearts IIRC.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Gaard
This is just a thought (and maybe I watch too much TV), but these guys aren't on trial so what's to prevent a few of them from taking lie detector tests?

Why doesnt kerry if hes actually concerned about it?

www.johnkerry.com

 

[Gaard]

charrison, do you really believe all of Bush's records have been released? I'm not asking what CNN, etal say...I'm asking what you personally believe.

 

[DoubleL]

Well I wish they would just put Bush's records out for all to see but I know they can't do that, You see Bush was not AWOL but was missing on 4 accounts, In 1968 when Nixon took over he wanted to bomb more than non military and bike trails like LBJ was doing so he starting looking for the best of the best flyers and then he heard of George W, The best of the best, The bravest of the brave, He ordered Bush to vietnam to bomb top secret spots, I don't even know where or why, If I did they would have to kill me and if Bush ever told anyone about where he was he would have to kill then to, So now you know the rest of the story

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: DoubleL
Well I wish they would just put Bush's records out for all to see but I know they can't do that, You see Bush was not AWOL but was missing on 4 accounts, In 1968 when Nixon took over he wanted to bomb more than non military and bike trails like LBJ was doing so he starting looking for the best of the best flyers and then he heard of George W, The best of the best, The bravest of the brave, He ordered Bush to vietnam to bomb top secret spots, I don't even know where or why, If I did they would have to kill me and if Bush ever told anyone about where he was he would have to kill then to, So now you know the rest of the story

Ah so that accounts for all the friendly fire incidents we had back then!

 

[piasabird]

Seems interesting that democrats are so willing to beleive every lie they are told, but these swift boat guys are somehow wrong for stretching the truth. This is very undemocratic and hypoctical. What about the big fat liar Micheal Moore?

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Seems interesting that democrats are so willing to beleive every lie they are told, but these swift boat guys are somehow wrong for stretching the truth. This is very undemocratic and hypoctical. What about the big fat liar Micheal Moore?

Please tell us about these lies we believe....

F911, while is was one-sided was not full of lies. Very few things have been found wrong about the facts, most very minor. You also have to pay to see F911, it's not an ad run in swing states to mislead people. This swiftboat stuff has been proven either 100% wrong or just he said-she said, mostly by guys who change their story 30 years later.

It's funny how the right will believe and support this kind of smear campaign, but I guess this is typical Rove-esque tactics. Anything to win I guess?

 

[kage69]

It amuses me that you neocon goons get all frothy concerning medals Kerry earned in combat, while the Bush administration went and awarded Jessica Lynch a medal for getting lost and then in a car wreck.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Gaard
charrison, do you really believe all of Bush's records have been released? I'm not asking what CNN, etal say...I'm asking what you personally believe.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Gaard

Originally posted by: Gaard
charrison, do you really believe all of Bush's records have been released? I'm not asking what CNN, etal say...I'm asking what you personally believe.

No need to requote. I dont post during the day at work. :roll: In the future just give me a PM if you think I missed/ignored something.

Yes I do think all documents have been released. The media has gone over these records with a fine tooth comb at this point. The AP even sued to obtain documents which were claimed to be lost(and found to be redundant to previously released documents). I dont think the AP could have sued for such documents unless form 180 was signed.