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Originally posted by: mcvickj
When is the last time anyone has been pulled over and fined for riding on the sidewalk?

I got a warning for it. A police officer here in Fort Collins, Colorado, had pulled someone over for something - probably speeding - and he saw me coming and walked over and asked me to stop and told me that I should be riding in the bike lane on the street and not on the sidewalks. I politely told him that I would in the future, and I mostly do.

For what it's worth, the street in question is a 50mph two lane highway (Harmony Road, southern Fort Collins) with a pretty nice bike lane - although the guys buzzing past me at 50mph freak me out... particularly when they cut into the bike lane for a right hand turn. The sidewalk is offset a bit from the road.
 

mechBgon

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pm, you might want to look into a helmet-mounted rearview mirror :)D). I'd never be able to do without mine. Sometimes I'll just be walking around in a store, or at work, and hear a noise behind me, and I freak myself out by looking in my mirror, and it isn't there :Q:confused::eek:
 

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In this case, the bus owned the cyclist:
Posted on Sat, Oct. 15, 2005

Cyclist dies in collision with off-duty city bus

MELISSA MANWARE, Staff Writer

The driver of a CATS bus that collided with and killed a bicycle rider Friday on South Tryon Street had been in another wreck 30 minutes earlier and was returning the bus to the station, city officials said. The bicyclist and bus collided in front of the entrance to the South Tryon Bus Facility near Clanton Road just before 5 p.m. The bike rider, identified as Todd Matthew Weaver, was thrown about 20 feet and landed in the driveway, Charlotte-Mecklenburg police said.

The bus driver, who Charlotte Area Transit System officials identified as 50-year-old Jerry Lee Miller, was not injured. A CATS driver for 4 1/2 years, Miller previously had five other on-duty wrecks, CATS spokeswoman Jean Leier said. After Friday's wrecks, he was placed on unpaid leave. He was also tested for drugs, which is routine in wrecks with injuries. The results weren't immediately available.

At about 4:30 p.m. Friday, Miller hit a planter as he turned bus No. 707 left from Fourth Street onto South Tryon, Leier said. The wreck was minor, but Medic took six passengers to hospitals for evaluations. Miller was told to take his bus back to the South Tryon transit center and then report for a drug test.

Less than 30 minutes later, Miller, southbound on Tryon, was making a left into the parking lot when the bus collided with Weaver, who was riding north, Charlotte-Mecklenburg police Sgt. Ricky Robbins said. Medics worked on 36-year-old Weaver, but pronounced him dead in the driveway. He had been wearing a helmet and other gear.

Weaver lives in Concord and works in Charlotte. Robbins said Weaver rode his bike to work every day. Dan Seeman, who works on Clanton and was headed to a nearby hardware store, said he saw the collision. The bicyclist was a big guy, he said, and had gotten his attention. "One moment he was alive and riding by me," Seeman said, "and the next he was dead."

Seeman said the man on the bicycle was riding fast and seemed to have his head down. The bike hit the bus near the door. The bus driver couldn't get his front door open, Seeman said, and exited from a back one. The driver checked on the bicyclist, told Seeman to call 911, then ran for help.

Robbins said officers will complete an investigation and turn their findings over to the Mecklenburg County district attorney, who will decide if charges are appropriate.

Leier said she did not know details of Miller's other wrecks, but said they involved property damage and no injuries. She also did not know if he had been tested for drugs previously, but said drivers are terminated if they test positive. Leier would not say whether it was uncommon for a driver to be involved in seven wrecks. She said union guidelines say drivers can face termination if they have four in 36 consecutive months. They can be fired sooner depending on the severity, she added. Three of Miller's five previous wrecks were within 32 consecutive months, she said. After Friday, Miller had five wrecks in 32 months.
It looks like the driver was eventually fired.
 

mechBgon

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
In this case, the bus owned the cyclist:
Posted on Sat, Oct. 15, 2005

Cyclist dies in collision with off-duty city bus

MELISSA MANWARE, Staff Writer

The driver of a CATS bus that collided with and killed a bicycle rider Friday on South Tryon Street had been in another wreck 30 minutes earlier and was returning the bus to the station, city officials said. The bicyclist and bus collided in front of the entrance to the South Tryon Bus Facility near Clanton Road just before 5 p.m. The bike rider, identified as Todd Matthew Weaver, was thrown about 20 feet and landed in the driveway, Charlotte-Mecklenburg police said.

The bus driver, who Charlotte Area Transit System officials identified as 50-year-old Jerry Lee Miller, was not injured. A CATS driver for 4 1/2 years, Miller previously had five other on-duty wrecks, CATS spokeswoman Jean Leier said. After Friday's wrecks, he was placed on unpaid leave. He was also tested for drugs, which is routine in wrecks with injuries. The results weren't immediately available.

At about 4:30 p.m. Friday, Miller hit a planter as he turned bus No. 707 left from Fourth Street onto South Tryon, Leier said. The wreck was minor, but Medic took six passengers to hospitals for evaluations. Miller was told to take his bus back to the South Tryon transit center and then report for a drug test.

Less than 30 minutes later, Miller, southbound on Tryon, was making a left into the parking lot when the bus collided with Weaver, who was riding north, Charlotte-Mecklenburg police Sgt. Ricky Robbins said. Medics worked on 36-year-old Weaver, but pronounced him dead in the driveway. He had been wearing a helmet and other gear.

Weaver lives in Concord and works in Charlotte. Robbins said Weaver rode his bike to work every day. Dan Seeman, who works on Clanton and was headed to a nearby hardware store, said he saw the collision. The bicyclist was a big guy, he said, and had gotten his attention. "One moment he was alive and riding by me," Seeman said, "and the next he was dead."

Seeman said the man on the bicycle was riding fast and seemed to have his head down. The bike hit the bus near the door. The bus driver couldn't get his front door open, Seeman said, and exited from a back one. The driver checked on the bicyclist, told Seeman to call 911, then ran for help.

Robbins said officers will complete an investigation and turn their findings over to the Mecklenburg County district attorney, who will decide if charges are appropriate.

Leier said she did not know details of Miller's other wrecks, but said they involved property damage and no injuries. She also did not know if he had been tested for drugs previously, but said drivers are terminated if they test positive. Leier would not say whether it was uncommon for a driver to be involved in seven wrecks. She said union guidelines say drivers can face termination if they have four in 36 consecutive months. They can be fired sooner depending on the severity, she added. Three of Miller's five previous wrecks were within 32 consecutive months, she said. After Friday, Miller had five wrecks in 32 months.
It looks like the driver was eventually fired.
I had this happen, except that I survived. It was a nice little old lady in an Olds sedan, and we were coming towards eachother. She made a left turn right into me. Fortunately her car had a low hood, and it hit me pretty low. I think her car's A-pillar may have obscured her view of me, but whatever the case, she didn't see me until she'd already hit me.

I came out of it pretty well, scrapes and bruises. But it was the end of my custom Fuji Team road-racer. Mr. Cheetah has never been the same since the loss of that wonderful bike... :(
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Anyway, this is the reason I run a high-power headlight/taillight combo even in the daytime nowdays. Be visible is the moral of the story.
 

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Anyway, this is the reason I run a high-power headlight/taillight combo even in the daytime nowdays. Be visible is the moral of the story.
Just to totally twist a point to the humourously obsurd... Man, if there was ever an argument for loud pipes... Just wonder how you would have to cut the bicycle seat to fit them... :D :D
 

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Originally posted by: slag
Originally posted by: illusion88
Nice!
I hate fvckers who don't give room to cyclists.

Cyclists should stay on the sidewalk. Seriously, they are a hinderance to traffic, try to drive around people when in traffic and scrape cars by doing so, have no regard for stop signs, and are a general pita

at least in lawrence they are. They think they own the road and cant even keep up with the flow of traffic.


A man on a road bike who weights 180 lbs has a total weight of ~205 - 210 lbs, moving at 20 mph when riding seriously. A man on a mountain bike may go slower, let's say 15 mph, but weights a good 10-15 lbs. more.

Put those projectiles on the sidewalk, full of people walking their dogs, meandering sideways across, moving from buildings to curb, and old ladies with shopping carts isn't just a bad idea - it verges on a massacre of pedestrians. Imagine YOUR mother being hit by 210 lbs at 20 mph...broken hips, crushed arms, split head. It's not a pretty picture, but it IS a real occurance when anyone older than 12 years old rides a bike on the sidewalk.

Unless we are prepared to enforce lane discipline on sidewalks, train all pedestrians to look both ways before moving from a building to the curb and vice versa, then adults on bikes do NOT belong on sidewalks.

As for me, I've given up riding in traffic a long time ago - I've know two people that were killed, both bike racers that were in training, and not even in heavy traffic. I recently bought a cross-country racing mountain bike, and am going to resume riding seriously again. But it will be far from cars, buses, and insane pedestrians with dogs on leashes running across my path...

FS
 

DaShen

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Just got some of my Dura-Ace parts. :thumbsup:

I will just out-ride the speeding bus now. ;) j/k j/k

Now all I need is the Scott CR1 Team Issue.... but that thing is h3ll4 expensive.
 

oboeguy

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Originally posted by: DaShen
Just got some of my Dura-Ace parts. :thumbsup:

I will just out-ride the speeding bus now. ;) j/k j/k

Now all I need is the Scott CR1 Team Issue.... but that thing is h3ll4 expensive.

And DA parts aren't expensive? :confused:
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: oboeguy
Originally posted by: DaShen
Just got some of my Dura-Ace parts. :thumbsup:

I will just out-ride the speeding bus now. ;) j/k j/k

Now all I need is the Scott CR1 Team Issue.... but that thing is h3ll4 expensive.

And DA parts aren't expensive? :confused:

Hehehe... it is the 9 speed 7700 editions. Not the new 10 speed 7800.

Anyways I heard the torque on the 7700 is better. But I got the parts used, but yeah, it was a lot of $crilla for me.

Scott CR1 2005 Team Issue is $2200 new if you get a good deal (usually posted at $2700). So yeah that is much more expensive.
 

kevinthenerd

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I wish I could afford a Trek.

If I had the money for the Trek I want, though, I'd probably spend the money on a nice Kawasaki. :cool: