UPDATED: Cyclists: I was almost run down by a 7 ton Bus

[DivideBYZero]

^ OP update

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: shimsham
so who cares if im late for work, as long as "cyclists" get to ride their bikes, eh?

oh no wait, i should plan to leave 10mins earlier so they dont have to get off the road...designed for cars. my bad.

I don't give a sh!t if you're late for work. That's your fvcking problem not mine. Fact is, I have every right to ride on the same road as you do. Don't like it? Too bad.

Besides, I can't remember the last time I held anyone in a car up. We have dedicated bike lanes on most roads around here though. Still, there is no shortage of ignorant fvckwads in cars/trucks/SUVs clogging up the roads around there.

then you give as much sh!t as i do to your right to be on a road.....for cars. you love cycling so much, find a bike trail for your hobby.

nice attitude. its only the people in cars that are assholes right? never the cyclist.

Hey, you're the one bitching because we supposedly "make you late." You want sympathy? You've come to the wrong place.

Look, I've already said that I don't hold people up when I ride but I do expect a little common courtesy and regard for my safety from the people I share the road with. Oh, and I don't know if this has been stated enough but...IT'S THE LAW!!!

That is all.

good for you. your type i dont mind. but just as some cyclists are courteous and safe, the same can be said for drivers. its the ones that think they own the road that are annoying. just like in cars.

Yeah, I don't think it helps our cause when cyclists go around breaking laws and generally being asshats. I apologize for being kind of rude in my earlier posts though. I just get pretty worked up about drivers who say cyclists shouldn't be on the road and I get really worked up when I read about cyclists being hit by cars.

 

[DaShen]

It sucks to have a aluminum frame though, when you are at a red light by yourself.

Unless you have a steel bike, you end up waiting all day. Sometimes in those situations I will run the light if there is absolutely no traffic.

 

[AbsolutDealage]

Originally posted by: DaShen
It sucks to have a aluminum frame though, when you are at a red light by yourself.

Unless you have a steel bike, you end up waiting all day. Sometimes in those situations I will run the light if there is absolutely no traffic.

I usually just scoot over and hit the pedestrian walk button (if there is one, that is).

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DaShen
It sucks to have a aluminum frame though, when you are at a red light by yourself.

Unless you have a steel bike, you end up waiting all day. Sometimes in those situations I will run the light if there is absolutely no traffic.

Yeah, my bike is aluminum as well. I don't think a steel bike would trip it either though. In those situations you just have no choice but to run the light when it is safe to do so.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage

Originally posted by: DaShen
It sucks to have a aluminum frame though, when you are at a red light by yourself.

Unless you have a steel bike, you end up waiting all day. Sometimes in those situations I will run the light if there is absolutely no traffic.

I usually just scoot over and hit the pedestrian walk button (if there is one, that is).

Actually, I do that too.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: AbsolutDealage

Originally posted by: DaShen
It sucks to have a aluminum frame though, when you are at a red light by yourself.

Unless you have a steel bike, you end up waiting all day. Sometimes in those situations I will run the light if there is absolutely no traffic.

I usually just scoot over and hit the pedestrian walk button (if there is one, that is).

That doesn't work. Most aren't connected.

But, you can always do the right turn u-turn right turn thing if worse comes to worst

**EDIT**
And steel does work, some of the time. At least with the old back road detectors.

 

[zebano]

Originally posted by: oboeguy

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Fausto

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Fausto and Mwilding finally showed up, so I guess the Yeti finally gets his sought after sympathy from the two other cycling enthusiasts on the board.

You'd think someone with your years of experience would be a better troll.

Feel honored that I didn't put "ethusiasts" in quotes.

I, along with others, no doubt, feel dissed for not being recognized as cycling a enthusiast. Just b/c we don't post pics of us looking manly in spandex like that attention wh0re Fausto doesn't mean we don't ride thousands of miles a year too.

I'll second that =)

 

[DaShen]

BTW... anyone have an aluminum fixie they are willing to sell?

56-58 cm standover 32"
preferably bull-horn handlebars, but no biggie.

 

[DaShen]

BUMP

Post your bike pics.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: RedRooster

Originally posted by: Ilmater
As a fellow cyclist, I say get the fvck off the streets and onto the sidewalk.

:thumbsup:
Why do bikers think they're vehicles? I don't know if they're brave or just stupid.

Shoulda pulled over and let him by. I understand your predicament with the fine, but get the hell out of the way.

Because they are vehicles. Florida and Georgia state law will fine you for riding on the sidewalk. See Armitage above - edit errrr. page 1.

 

[oboeguy]

Originally posted by: gsellis

Originally posted by: RedRooster

Originally posted by: Ilmater
As a fellow cyclist, I say get the fvck off the streets and onto the sidewalk.

:thumbsup:
Why do bikers think they're vehicles? I don't know if they're brave or just stupid.

Shoulda pulled over and let him by. I understand your predicament with the fine, but get the hell out of the way.

Because they are vehicles. Florida and Georgia state law will fine you for riding on the sidewalk. See Armitage above - edit errrr. page 1.

Nice pwnage.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I've seen cyclists ride down the middle of a lane in certain areas where the speeds are very low and there are pedestrians and stop signs galore. I think it's prefectly fine to do so in those situations. I wouldn't sit out there in the middle of a lane on a 35mph road though were there are none of those hazards. I would stay as far right as possible and expect people to pass when it is safe to do so.

I learned this lesson around 1977. The answer is no. You need to be at least 2.5 ft in the lane whether it is 35, 45, or 55. The only way not to get hit is make it obvious that the driver has to deal with you and not just blow you by. After getting winged on the jersey by a cement mixer in a 45, I learned that you must be in the lane. It also prevents the folks that turn into you at intersections (pass you and then turn right into you.)

My sister learned this one in about 83 (crashed out because of a driver). Fortunately, Fitzpatrick was coming by (got picked up by Bianchi). Fitzpatrick rode the guy down and sat on his hood until the cop arrived. Fitzpatrick was a local legend. Friends took off to the beach (54 miles.) He showed up about 1 1/2 hrs later, on bike. He had nothing better to do.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: gsellis

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I've seen cyclists ride down the middle of a lane in certain areas where the speeds are very low and there are pedestrians and stop signs galore. I think it's prefectly fine to do so in those situations. I wouldn't sit out there in the middle of a lane on a 35mph road though were there are none of those hazards. I would stay as far right as possible and expect people to pass when it is safe to do so.

I learned this lesson around 1977. The answer is no. You need to be at least 2.5 ft in the lane whether it is 35, 45, or 55. The only way not to get hit is make it obvious that the driver has to deal with you and not just blow you by. After getting winged on the jersey by a cement mixer in a 45, I learned that you must be in the lane. It also prevents the folks that turn into you at intersections (pass you and then turn right into you.)

My sister learned this one in about 83 (crashed out because of a driver). Fortunately, Fitzpatrick was coming by (got picked up by Bianchi). Fitzpatrick rode the guy down and sat on his hood until the cop arrived. Fitzpatrick was a local legend. Friends took off to the beach (54 miles.) He showed up about 1 1/2 hrs later, on bike. He had nothing better to do.

DANG!!! that is really gutsy.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: gsellis

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I've seen cyclists ride down the middle of a lane in certain areas where the speeds are very low and there are pedestrians and stop signs galore. I think it's prefectly fine to do so in those situations. I wouldn't sit out there in the middle of a lane on a 35mph road though were there are none of those hazards. I would stay as far right as possible and expect people to pass when it is safe to do so.

I learned this lesson around 1977. The answer is no. You need to be at least 2.5 ft in the lane whether it is 35, 45, or 55. The only way not to get hit is make it obvious that the driver has to deal with you and not just blow you by. After getting winged on the jersey by a cement mixer in a 45, I learned that you must be in the lane. It also prevents the folks that turn into you at intersections (pass you and then turn right into you.)

My sister learned this one in about 83 (crashed out because of a driver). Fortunately, Fitzpatrick was coming by (got picked up by Bianchi). Fitzpatrick rode the guy down and sat on his hood until the cop arrived. Fitzpatrick was a local legend. Friends took off to the beach (54 miles.) He showed up about 1 1/2 hrs later, on bike. He had nothing better to do.

DANG!!! that is really gutsy.

He was not the typical skinny 140lb cyclist. He was solid! I only meet him once, but my sister would ride with him about once a week. I know he took it easy with her as they would only do about 20 miles. Guess it was his warm down

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: gsellis
He was not the typical skinny 140lb cyclist. He was solid! I only meet him once, but my sister would ride with him about once a week. I know he took it easy with her as they would only do about 20 miles. Guess it was his warm down

Yeah, I ride with my friend's sister every once in a while. It can get a little annoying, but it is still fun.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: DaShen
BUMP

Post your bike pics.

Bike pic!

I know, I already posted this in your other thread but dammit I just like looking at it! :laugh:

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: DaShen
BUMP

Post your bike pics.

Bike pic!

I know, I already posted this in your other thread but dammit I just like looking at it! :laugh:

Nice. The only bike I still have is hanging from the ceiling in the garage

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: DaShen
BUMP

Post your bike pics.

Bike pic!

I know, I already posted this in your other thread but dammit I just like looking at it! :laugh:

That really is quite pretty! :thumbsup: I drool everytime I see it. You should get some silver Ksyrium or Shimano wheelsets for the added, Bling Bling. Screw the Zipp or Carbon wheelsets, they aren't as pretty.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: shimsham
so much for sharing the roads, then. cyclists want to bitch about cars, but then why are they riding on roads with no bike lanes, and in my case, no shoulder even? if car drivers are so stupid and impatient, why put yourselves at risk like that?

and you hit the nail on the head about the DOT. fact is most roads were built for cars, not bikes. motorist are using them for what they are designed for. so if cycling is so important, why not try to pass some legislation to add bike lanes? if its the cyclists right to use the road, then it shouldnt be too hard. a little leg work, but a labor of love, right?

for the record, ive never put a cyclist off the road, and always give as much clearance that i can when passing. its just tiresome the attitude that cyclist have towards drivers, when they are the ones putting themselves at risk, and are just as much of dicks and assholes as the drivers they love to condemn.

You're sound like a freaking retard, man. With that attitude I highly doubt you have never done anything to piss off a cyclist on the road (Like Revving your exhaust in their face or something). The first roads were built for bikes, they started the change over from cobble roads to paves lanes (that is what JulesMaximus was saying). Also, you want to pay for the bike lanes, again, be my guest. They have tried to pass legislation and even got more funding this year for exactly that, but it isn't enough. Most of that funding went to fixing regular roads. That is bureaucracy for you.

Put it this way. Most road ragers will only cause problems if they think they have the upper hand. Most of the time they do with bikers, so they attempt to kill or hurt someone. Most of these people are cowards, who are pissed off about traffic but only want to take it out on someone who can't fight back (namely someone without a car), who will run you off the road even when they are in another lane, or even when the bike is on the bike route. This happens quite frequently. Most bikers will ride on low traffic rodes, so as not to piss anyone off, but this causes problems becasue then there are no witnesses and it gives cowardly car drivers a bigger reason to hit you and get away with it.

Also, bikes are extremely dangerous on the sidewalk. And it is the law.
I hear car drivers b!tch and complain about truck & semi drivers all the time, and I agree with them too. For the same reasoning. Cars have just the same amount of rights on the road as a semi, bus, or truck, yet these always tend to tailgate and muscle cars out o fthe way. You don't like that either, I figure. Bike riders don't like it either. That is the point. In fact most riders I know are more courteous than most drivers when it comes to letting people pass, at least in Houston. Most cars here will muscle there way around even if they are holding up traffic. A bike rider, will get to the side of the road. It is bike edicate. But most of the time they get hit anyways.

This is a prime example of regular stuff that happens on low traffic roads.

This kind of stuff happens all the time with cyclists, for you unsympathetic drivers out there

There was one time I had to stop by my friends house which was maybe 6-7 miles away (not bad on a bike), I was in the Suburbs at the time, so I decided to ride my bike. It was the middle of the day, and I had the day off so I figured there wouldn't be much traffic.

I ride down the rode, again this is the suburbs, and there is no traffic. I get run off the road by one SUV when he has another lane. I get up and decide to stop by a strip center close by to bandage and clean up. When I am pulling out of the strip mall, I pull up behind another different SUV that is pulling out. I can see into the back of his car, and I see that he sees me. He is a guy with his family.

Mind you, he sees me, and he puts his SUV into reverse and starts backing into me, all the time keeping eye contact on me with his rearview. I think he figured that since I was clipped in, I would fall over when he reversed into me. When he saw that I wasn't about to fall over, he floors the car and leaves a trail of smoke exhaust in his wake. What a freaking bastard! He was with his family, too. You would think a guy with his family wouldn't do crap like that. Sets a bad example for the kids.

I repeat, drivers who do this kind of crap are a bunch of road raged retards that need to get their licenses revoked. There should be a law for bikers doing exactly that.

**EDIT**
Of course, not all SUV/truck drivers are bastards. When I got in that serious accident, the only car that stopped to take me to the hospital was a truck driver. It turned out that he was a Pastor of a local church though, so I think that was a special case.

It just seems like 90% of them will run you off the road.

I know I posted this before, but this kind of stuff happens all the time. I agree that bike roads would be great, and bikers constantly try to pass legislation. They even have regular rides to raise funds for it, but it isn't enough money to do anything.

you make too many ignorant assumptions. where do you get roadrage from my posts? because im complaining about some cyclists, just like you are about some motorists?

who cares why the first roads were built? the roads i drive my car on were put in place for cars, so i dont know where youre trying to go with that. cobblestones and that crap is irrelevent. i have no problem with the money i pay in as taxes going towards a bike lane. just like i said earlier, win win, and safer for all.

i have never revved my engine or blown exhaust or wtf ever you think. pssssttt...im not those people in the suvs.....

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: shimsham
so who cares if im late for work, as long as "cyclists" get to ride their bikes, eh?

oh no wait, i should plan to leave 10mins earlier so they dont have to get off the road...designed for cars. my bad.

I don't give a sh!t if you're late for work. That's your fvcking problem not mine. Fact is, I have every right to ride on the same road as you do. Don't like it? Too bad.

Besides, I can't remember the last time I held anyone in a car up. We have dedicated bike lanes on most roads around here though. Still, there is no shortage of ignorant fvckwads in cars/trucks/SUVs clogging up the roads around there.

then you give as much sh!t as i do to your right to be on a road.....for cars. you love cycling so much, find a bike trail for your hobby.

nice attitude. its only the people in cars that are assholes right? never the cyclist.

Hey, you're the one bitching because we supposedly "make you late." You want sympathy? You've come to the wrong place.

Look, I've already said that I don't hold people up when I ride but I do expect a little common courtesy and regard for my safety from the people I share the road with. Oh, and I don't know if this has been stated enough but...IT'S THE LAW!!!

That is all.

good for you. your type i dont mind. but just as some cyclists are courteous and safe, the same can be said for drivers. its the ones that think they own the road that are annoying. just like in cars.

Yeah, I don't think it helps our cause when cyclists go around breaking laws and generally being asshats. I apologize for being kind of rude in my earlier posts though. I just get pretty worked up about drivers who say cyclists shouldn't be on the road and I get really worked up when I read about cyclists being hit by cars.

:beer: for you. nice to see some cyclists are level headed about the situation.

 

[Baked]

Maybe you should ride a tricycle on the highway next time, that'll show 'em who's the boss.

 

[DaShen]

Hi ShimSham,

First of all, I want to alleviate the unneeded tension and undue hostility here. Your posts do make you SOUND like a road rager though, but as you have said you are not, so I apologize for my accusatory tone.

To answer the payment/legislation question:
They have tried to pass legislation and even got more funding this year for exactly that, but it isn't enough. Most of that funding went to fixing regular roads. That is bureaucracy for you. Bikers regularly raise funds for just that bike routes, but it is too little still.

Also this is my reasoning on the matter:
I hear car drivers complain about truck & semi drivers all the time, and I agree with them too. For the same reasoning. Cars have just the same amount of rights on the road as a semi, bus, or truck, yet these always tend to tailgate and muscle cars out o fthe way. You don't like that either, I figure. Bike riders don't like it either. That is the point. In fact most riders I know are more courteous than most drivers when it comes to letting people pass, at least in Houston. Most cars here will muscle there way around even if they are holding up traffic. A bike rider, will get to the side of the road. It is bike edicate. But most of the time they get hit anyways.

You are complaining about bikers for a completely different issue. Inconvenience (being late which most of the time isn't really caused by a lone biker) vs. Life-threatening situations (close to murder/man-slaughter). Most of the bikers I know try to be extremely courteous to cars and trucks. It is actually an unwritten rule of bike edicate to let cars pass if you are holding up cars for more than a second (which BTW wouldn't make anyone more than a few seconds late), and when other bikers see bikers holding up traffic, I guarantee they get chewed out by us.

And I complain about motorists because more than often road ragers take their aggression off of the person they think they can easily get away with it. Bikers are a prime target: they usually try to go on desolate roads (no witnesses), it won't damage their car to run a biker off the road, and more than likely they can hit and run. That is the distinct difference. It is a cowardly act of maiming or manslaughter.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Sentinel
People have no concern for cyclists or runners for that matter. I know this from experience. It's good you filed a report.

and some cyclist are morons and ride on roads that are too dangerous to ride on. The 2 lane highway that i drive to work on is one example. Its country two lane road, speed limit is 65 with NO SHOULDER. The white line is at the edge of the road then its dirt for about 1 foot then a ditch on both sides. A lot of semi's use that road as a shortcut to Boulder or I-25 to top it off its a very hilly road. there is nothing worse than driviing along and as soon as you crest the many small hills there is a dumbass cyclist there 2 feet to the left of the white line and i have a fricken gravel truck coming towards me and im doing 65. I didnt hit the guy, how i dont know but i was severly shaking after that and was very tempted to stop my car to chew the dumbass cyclist out.

I am all for cycling and colorado is very friendly towards cyclist, but as i said above there are some roads that cyclist should not be on.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Sentinel
People have no concern for cyclists or runners for that matter. I know this from experience. It's good you filed a report.

and some cyclist are morons and ride on roads that are too dangerous to ride on. The 2 lane highway that i drive to work on is one example. Its country two lane road, speed limit is 65 with NO SHOULDER. The white line is at the edge of the road then its dirt for about 1 foot then a ditch on both sides. A lot of semi's use that road as a shortcut to Boulder or I-25 to top it off its a very hilly road. there is nothing worse than driviing along and as soon as you crest the many small hills there is a dumbass cyclist there 2 feet to the left of the white line and i have a fricken gravel truck coming towards me and im doing 65. I didnt hit the guy, how i dont know but i was severly shaking after that and was very tempted to stop my car to chew the dumbass cyclist out.

I am all for cycling and colorado is very friendly towards cyclist, but as i said above there are some roads that cyclist should not be on.

I can understand that... Sucks, they need more bike route. It wouldn't take too much to extend some roads 3 feet to allow for a bike lane.