UPDATE: Virginia Reckless Driving tickets from the summer

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Colt45
So.. 80 in a 65 is as bad as being drunk?

Who thought up that pearl?

A representative who also happens to own a group of law firms specializing in traffic law. I wish I was making this up.

Yep and the bad thing is it did not make the news until after the filling date to run for office. So since he won so easily last time no one ran against him this time and won by default. Mind you a LOT of democrats won seats in VA after ot came out a republican wrote the bill and was backed by the republican party.

I live in Springfield VA.

I think you are confusing the now defunct abusive driver fees they somehow thought was one of the keys to raising highway funds. The option to charge reckless driving for anything over 80 has been the law in Virginia as long as I have been driving in Virginia and just to illustrate how long that has been I grew up in Springfield and started driving when Springfield Mall was still covered with trees and Backlick Road was 2 lane 55 MPH south of what is now the Springfield Bypass. It is not something that was dreamed up with those ridiculous Abusive Driver Fees.

Yea I agree, but I think he was talking about the lawyer that came up with the fees. I was replaying about the person, not the fines/fees of each offense.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Colt45
So.. 80 in a 65 is as bad as being drunk?

Who thought up that pearl?

A representative who also happens to own a group of law firms specializing in traffic law. I wish I was making this up.

Yep and the bad thing is it did not make the news until after the filling date to run for office. So since he won so easily last time no one ran against him this time and won by default. Mind you a LOT of democrats won seats in VA after ot came out a republican wrote the bill and was backed by the republican party.

I live in Springfield VA.

I think you are confusing the now defunct abusive driver fees they somehow thought was one of the keys to raising highway funds. The option to charge reckless driving for anything over 80 has been the law in Virginia as long as I have been driving in Virginia and just to illustrate how long that has been I grew up in Springfield and started driving when Springfield Mall was still covered with trees and Backlick Road was 2 lane 55 MPH south of what is now the Springfield Bypass. It is not something that was dreamed up with those ridiculous Abusive Driver Fees.

Yea I agree, but I think he was talking about the lawyer that came up with the fees. I was replaying about the person, not the fines/fees of each offense.

Would that be David B. Albo? No surprise there, he graduated from Whoopee Shit High School.

 

[Mxylplyx]

The way this country relies on lawyers for everything is akin to paying protection money to the mob. You show up to court without a lawyer for the most basic things, and they will ream your ass. Considering it is one big gool ol' boys club, made up of lawyers and judges who used to be lawyers, means it's never going to change.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Colt45
So.. 80 in a 65 is as bad as being drunk?

Who thought up that pearl?

A representative who also happens to own a group of law firms specializing in traffic law. I wish I was making this up.

Yep and the bad thing is it did not make the news until after the filling date to run for office. So since he won so easily last time no one ran against him this time and won by default. Mind you a LOT of democrats won seats in VA after ot came out a republican wrote the bill and was backed by the republican party.

I live in Springfield VA.

I think you are confusing the now defunct abusive driver fees they somehow thought was one of the keys to raising highway funds. The option to charge reckless driving for anything over 80 has been the law in Virginia as long as I have been driving in Virginia and just to illustrate how long that has been I grew up in Springfield and started driving when Springfield Mall was still covered with trees and Backlick Road was 2 lane 55 MPH south of what is now the Springfield Bypass. It is not something that was dreamed up with those ridiculous Abusive Driver Fees.

Yea I agree, but I think he was talking about the lawyer that came up with the fees. I was replaying about the person, not the fines/fees of each offense.

Would that be David B. Albo? No surprise there, he graduated from Whoopee Shit High School.

Yep thats him. His web-site is awful if you search his name.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: irishScott

Originally posted by: schizoid77
I live in VA. And I have gotten 2 reckless driving tickets. One in the middle of nowhere, and one in Fairfax county.

In Fairfax, I was going 88 in a 55 on the beltway in a "work zone" (which was BS, cuz there was no one around, and hadn't been for months). A state trooper on a chopper got me at 88mph (lucky for me, as I was planning on hitting at least 95 to get past a pack of snails).

I got a lawyer after reading the horror stories of Fairfax county judges. He told me Fairfax judges will not back down from reckless driving regardless of what I do (driving school, speedometer calibration, etc). So he represented me and was told the exact opposite by the prosecutor. So he charged me another $300 for a 2nd appearance after I did both those things. I got the reckless charge and a $500 fine. They wanted to suspend it for 6 months. All in all, cost me about $1500, and I still got the charge.

2nd time I got reckless in VA, was going 78 in a 55. This county cop in the middle of nowhere gave me reckless. Anything 20 over, or anything 80+. I hired ANOTHER lawyer, and he got it dropped to a regular speeding ticket and I didn't have to show. Got lucky on that one, and the lawyer fee was $250.

The speeding laws in VA are absurd (same as a DWI!?!?). It's a money making business and is not in place for public safety. But if you think the state wide laws are bad, don't even THINK about speeding in Fairfax county. Anything over 90 and you're getting jail time.

Oh, and I used to have a clean record. Not I have ~4 points on my license. Driving school gives you -5, so that's what I started at.

We need to change the laws.

I live in Fairfax County. Why would you ever need to go over 80, let alone 90? I can see 70, 75 mph on 66 and 29, and of course the beltway and 95. Anything over that is just unnecessary.

Someone's opinion of unnecessary should not equal jail time.

Has nothing to do with my opinion. You ever see a car crash at 20 mph? Multiply that by 3 and see what happens. Then multiply it by 4. I've seen cars hit trees at 90 mph and literally split in half (dumass street racers). If they'd been going 60, they might have survived.

And screw a tree. Imagine if you hit a van with kids in it. At 65, the kids are more likely to survive.