**UPDATE** New Obamacare Reality Setting in: 8M in exchanges, 35% are < 35 yrs old

[Jhhnn]

I asked you to be specific in what I'm denying. Thx.



Nice rant, but I wasn't ranting at all about blowing money we don't have. I'm embracing it. Since the national debt is meaningless, and we can simply spend money we don't have at will, there is no point in trudging along 'because we're not spending enough'. The Gov can fix that no problem. Simply pay each net taxpayer $5k in 5 allotments, spread 6 months apart. The economy will roar. What will it cost the Gov? $1T+? Peanuts. Especially since they'll be getting it back in tax revenues, a way better economy, and since the debt is meaningless anyways. So you see, I'm a Spender like you and Nick. He's just pissed I nixed his caveat on spending $1T+ we don't have not on net taxpayers, but, him wanting to allow Politicians to blow it on whatever pet project (and really, that means, vote buying areas) they wanted to spend it on. Given your rant, I'd think you'd be on my side on this, right? Would not you want net taxpayers themselves to receive the money, and they themselves to blow it on what they wanted?



I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, I don't think you realize just how infinite level the irony of you posting this is.

Trollin', trollin', trollin'.

 

[hal2kilo]

Trollin', trollin', trollin'.

Hole is gettin deeper ride on!

 

[theeedude]

The way you think never ceases to amaze me.

Thank you!

 

[chucky2]

Trollin', trollin', trollin'.

Since all your posts are basically trolls, you don't need to tell us that, we know when we see your username what it's going to be...

Hole is gettin deeper ride on!

This doesn't make sense. Jhnnn is the bottom of the hole, along with a few others. He can get no deeper...

 

[First]

4-17-14 UPDATE: 8 million enrolled under ACA

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/obamacare-enrollment-8-million-105790.html?hp=t1_3

President Barack Obama called Thursday on Republicans to end their quest to repeal Obamacare &#8212; and Democrats to &#8220;forcefully defend and be proud&#8221; of the law.

In remarks from the White House briefing room, Obama delivered a vigorous defense of the program, which has far exceeded enrollment expectations but remains a liability for Democrats in the midterm elections.

&#8220;I don&#8217;t think we should apologize for it,&#8221; Obama said. &#8220;I don&#8217;t think we should be defensive about it. I think there is a strong, good, right story to tell. What the other side is doing and what the other side is offering would strip away protections from those families, and from hundreds of millions of people who had health insurance before the law passed.

&#8220;I&#8217;m still puzzled why they&#8217;ve made this their sole agenda item when it comes to our politics,&#8221; he added. &#8220;It is curious.&#8221;

Obama announced that at least 8 million people have signed up for health insurance through state and federal exchanges under the Affordable Care Act.

&#8220;I think we can agree that it is well past time to move on, as a country&#8230;The point is, this debate is and should be over. The Affordable Care Act is working. The American people don&#8217;t want us re-fighting the battles of the past five years. &#8221; he said in the White House briefing room.

&#8220;I find it strange that the Republican position on this law is still stuck in the same place that it has always been,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;They still can&#8217;t bring themselves to admit that the Affordable Care Act is working. They said nobody would sign up. They were wrong about that &#8230; They were wrong to keep trying to repeal a law that is working when they have no alternative answer.&#8221;

Details released by the Obama administration indicate that about 28 percent of people signing up through HealthCare.gov &#8211; which serves 36 states &#8211; were between ages 18 and 34 years old &#8211; the &#8220;young invincible&#8221; age group the White House encouraged to sign up to help offset the cost of covering older, sicker enrollees.

Another 5 million people enrolled in private coverage outside the Obamacare exchanges, and about 3 million more people had enrolled in Medicaid through February, according to administration estimates. Obama sharply criticized states that haven&#8217;t expanded Medicaid, leaving more than 5 million people without access to coverage.

The president also credited his signature health law with restraining health care costs.
&#8220;Those savings add up to more money that families can spend at businesses, [and] more money that businesses can spend

Not everyone who signs up in the exchange has paid their premium so the enrollment figures will probably drop somewhat. And not everyone who is covered was uninsured before. Still, the numbers beat expectations, giving the administration a chance to reframe the health law as more successful than it began last October.

The Congressional Budget Office this week released an updated projection that the law would cover 12 million newly-insured people this year. And that estimate is bolstered by the results of a large Gallup survey released Wednesday. It estimates 4 percent of Americans are newly insured in 2014 &#8211; about half of them through the exchanges

The youth signup rate pretty much entirely obliterates the final remaining anti-ACA talking points.

Repubs sweating bullets right about now.

 

[michal1980]

4-17-14 UPDATE: 8 million enrolled under ACA

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/obamacare-enrollment-8-million-105790.html?hp=t1_3



The youth signup rate pretty much entirely obliterates the final remaining anti-ACA talking points.

Repubs sweating bullets right about now.

why? its a terrible law, that fixes little. but damages plenty.

Also fits perfectly with the Oblama admin to have the census bureau change its health care methodology to make it look like more people are insured. Previous surveys overestimated the number of uninsured, which Oblama used to support this crap of a law, and now the new census reports will show lower rates of uninsured, which Oblama will use to say his law is a success.

When you have a media that wont cover your bullshit, you get away with everything.

 

[Jhhnn]

4-17-14 UPDATE: 8 million enrolled under ACA

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/obamacare-enrollment-8-million-105790.html?hp=t1_3



The youth signup rate pretty much entirely obliterates the final remaining anti-ACA talking points.

Repubs sweating bullets right about now.

They'll just wrap it in the pseudo-logic of Birther Benghazi! & the True Believers will worship on. Witness the post immediately below your own.

 

[SheHateMe]

You guys are lying, Obummer Care is DOA!

 

[Matt1970]

Dems grasping at straws right about now.

Fixed that for you.

Millions still lied to and kicked off their insurance.
Millions still lied to and lost their doctor.
Millions still lied to and paying more for premiums.

Period.

Business mandate still lurking in the shadows.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Fixed that for you.

Millions still lied to and kicked off their insurance.
Millions still lied to and lost their doctor.
Millions still lied to and paying more for premiums.

Period.

Business mandate still lurking in the shadows.

So this is the 'business mandate' you're speaking of?

It must be really, really exhausting to live in perpetual, and needless fear

 

[Attic]

Sorry, we know the admin is full of shit first and full of shit last on the ACA and everything else it gets it's clutches into.

The thing is deficit neutral too!

Idiots.

 

[Genx87]

Im not sure we will really ever know the true impact of this law. The Census Bureau just happens to change their questionaires as this thing becomes enforceable law.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/u...ealth-law-effects.html?_r=5&assetType=nyt_now

 

[fskimospy]

Im not sure we will really ever know the true impact of this law. The Census Bureau just happens to change their questionaires as this thing becomes enforceable law.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/16/u...ealth-law-effects.html?_r=5&assetType=nyt_now

This is a change the census bureau has been seeking for a decade, if not more.

 

[werepossum]

Sorry, we know the admin is full of shit first and full of shit last on the ACA and everything else it gets it's clutches into.

The thing is deficit neutral too!

Idiots.

I don't disagree, but Obamacare made some winners and some losers. Rather than repeal it and once again make some winners and some losers, show me a proposed replacement that protects the Obamacare winners and makes whole the Obamacare losers. Otherwise, what's the point in repeating the massive societal disruption? Likewise, I'm fine with removing the requirement that all health insurance policies be all things to all people and everybody's Uncle Sugar to boot, but repeal seems to be a rather blunt instrument approach to that too.

 

[Genx87]

This is a change the census bureau has been seeking for a decade, if not more.

Sure and it just happens to change the year the ACA enters the real world to add mud to the water.

 

[fskimospy]

Sure and it just happens to change the year the ACA enters the real world to add mud to the water.

So wait, what is your argument? Has the census bureau been playing the long game and been advocating for something years ahead of the ACA being passed so they would have a good excuse now? Are you claiming that the institutional bureaucracy is attempting to provide cover for the White House? Are you claiming the White House forced this change on an unwilling agency?

The idea that the implementation if an idea that has been in the works for a decade is the result of something nefarious is a pretty bold claim. So what specifically are you alleging?

 

[werepossum]

Sure and it just happens to change the year the ACA enters the real world to add mud to the water.

Pure coincidence! The bureaucracy was merely waiting for the double rainbow to implement these common sense reforms that, again purely coincidentally, make Obamacare look more successful. You just have to believe.

 

[First]

Fixed that for you.

Millions still lied to and kicked off their insurance.
Millions still lied to and lost their doctor.
Millions still lied to and paying more for premiums.

Period.

Business mandate still lurking in the shadows.

lol, none of that is compelling or true, FYI.

 

[First]

Sure and it just happens to change the year the ACA enters the real world to add mud to the water.

Btw, me and you 4 months ago:

By March of next year you'll see millions added to the private insurance and Medicaid rolls because of the ACA...

Check that, millions by March. How many millions oh wise one?

7M in private insurance, as originally anticipated, all despite website issues. Medicaid will be millions more though I don't know the precise numbers of eligible Medicaid recipients; it appears 3M is doable based on current pace, so 10M total.

When asked for your enrollment prediction in the same thread...

Can we get your answers down pat so we can hold you to them?

No

Eat your crow, old wise one.

 

[Matt1970]

lol, none of that is compelling or true, FYI.

I have got to see the color of the sky in your world.

 

[First]

I have got to see the color of the sky in your world.

The color non-tards see.

Eat your crow, kiddie.

 

[werepossum]

I have got to see the color of the sky in your world.

It's whatever color he needs it to be, of course.

 

[Matt1970]

The color non-tards see.

Eat your crow, kiddie.

You are looking at tard in your rear view mirror son.

 

[Matt1970]

It's whatever color he needs it to be, of course.

Well sure it is. And when he looks up he sees the ACA rainbow and in fact he can even see the pot of gold

 

[First]

You are looking at tard in your rear view mirror son.

2/10.

Btw, remember all those wasted posts about the web site being broken, or you downplaying December enrollment numbers or you not knowing what CPI was or how to calculate it? All in the same thread on the same page no less.

lulz