UPDATE: Lesson Learned: NEVER work for family...Sticky situation at work.

[archiloco]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: LolaWiz

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
That is horrible Sorry to hear that.

What did the other guy say? Does he still want you to work for him? I see why that part at least wont work out, unless I am missing something

i cannot work for him because it is frowned upon having one agent hire anothers staff.
if he did that, she (my boss) could take away his entire agency.

If that is the case, how in the world did the other person ever think he could hire you in the first place? And who says your boss could take away his agency? How long does this supposed restriction last - for life? Does everyone who works in the insurance business have to find another career if they quit the agency he/she works for, since working for another agency is forbidden?

I guarantee you there are ways around this, if such a restriction even exists outside the mind of your aunt. More details necessary on this alleged restriction.

I believe the pressure is coming from Lola's Aunt's and her potential employer's boss, who is the same person. I'm sure it has to do with stealing customers.

So the other agent works for Lola's Aunt?

i think so.......

 

[Aharami]

i think OP needs to clarify the situation further. is the aunt the other agent's boss?

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: archiloco

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: LolaWiz

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
That is horrible Sorry to hear that.

What did the other guy say? Does he still want you to work for him? I see why that part at least wont work out, unless I am missing something

i cannot work for him because it is frowned upon having one agent hire anothers staff.
if he did that, she (my boss) could take away his entire agency.

If that is the case, how in the world did the other person ever think he could hire you in the first place? And who says your boss could take away his agency? How long does this supposed restriction last - for life? Does everyone who works in the insurance business have to find another career if they quit the agency he/she works for, since working for another agency is forbidden?

I guarantee you there are ways around this, if such a restriction even exists outside the mind of your aunt. More details necessary on this alleged restriction.

I believe the pressure is coming from Lola's Aunt's and her potential employer's boss, who is the same person. I'm sure it has to do with stealing customers.

So the other agent works for Lola's Aunt?

i think so.......

Sorry, I am having issues with grammar there. Lola's Aunt has the same boss as the other agent.

 

[PingSpike]

Sounds like she's been taking you for a ride, and now that the horse is bucking she's responding with the whip instead of the carrot. That "you're my neice" talk sounds like a load of crap to try and shame you into being a sucker for longer.

 

[daveymark]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Sorry, I am having issues with grammar there. Lola's Aunt has the same boss as the other agent.

I thought the Aunt owned the company?

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: daveymark

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: archiloco

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: LolaWiz

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
That is horrible Sorry to hear that.

What did the other guy say? Does he still want you to work for him? I see why that part at least wont work out, unless I am missing something

i cannot work for him because it is frowned upon having one agent hire anothers staff.
if he did that, she (my boss) could take away his entire agency.

If that is the case, how in the world did the other person ever think he could hire you in the first place? And who says your boss could take away his agency? How long does this supposed restriction last - for life? Does everyone who works in the insurance business have to find another career if they quit the agency he/she works for, since working for another agency is forbidden?

I guarantee you there are ways around this, if such a restriction even exists outside the mind of your aunt. More details necessary on this alleged restriction.

I believe the pressure is coming from Lola's Aunt's and her potential employer's boss, who is the same person. I'm sure it has to do with stealing customers.

So the other agent works for Lola's Aunt?

i think so.......

Sorry, I am having issues with grammar there. Lola's Aunt has the same boss as the other agent.

I thought the Aunt owned the company?

No, she owns the agency, which is a franchise, basically. The other agent works has his own franchise with the same company. Both have the same district manager.

 

[CPA]

wow, sorry to hear about that. You need to quit, unfortunately. Otherwise, you are going to feel like a slave.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

So the other agent works for Lola's Aunt?

i think so.......[/quote]

Sorry, I am having issues with grammar there. Lola's Aunt has the same boss as the other agent.
[/quote]


Oh crap! Bad situation to say the least. Aunt is the senior agent and uses leverage with the boss to cut the junior agent off at the knees.

Sounds like this incident may have forever effected the relationship with the Aunt and may make the work environment much tougher, probably time to start looking for other opportunities

 

[DaiShan]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

No, she owns the agency, which is a franchise, basically. The other agent works has his own franchise with the same company. Both have the same district manager.

In most cases corporate doesn't have any say over hirings and firings of employees at franchises. It sounds like lola's aunt is thinking that she can go to corporate and tell them that this other agent was stealing employees from her and they will revoke his franchise. This won't happen because corporate only cares about getting a check in the mail, and that their brand isn't dilluted or defamed.

 

[joinT]

your aunty has a lot of bad karma headed her way..

best of luck.

 

[SOONER]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: DaiShan

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
The problem is that her Aunt has become accustomed to the fact that Lola can run the entire office, so her Aunt takes a large amount of time off. If I had to put a number on it, 60-70 days per year. Last summer she took every Friday off. :shocked:

She can do this because Lola is there, and once she leaves, we are concerned her Aunt may be resentful since suddenly her time off goes out the window.

A few questions:

1) Is it a gauranteed offer from this other guy? (in writing?)
2) What kind of time frame is he working on for getting the position filled?

I would make sure it is a definite offer before putting in my 2 weeks, and also offer to help find and train a replacement. Maybe you'll be able to give 3-4 weeks notice? You dont have to just leave her out in the cold, but good things come to those who help themselves, so if she doesn't make an honest effort to find a replacement she can't be resentful of losing her 4 day work weeks.

To number 1, not yet. I told her to wait until that happens. Unsure on number 2.

Looks like she should have listened to her husband and waited till it was a formal offer.

 

[Skunkwourk]

Sorry to hear thats what happened, do you think the bridge between your aunt has officially been burned, or does she really think the other agent orchestrated this whole thing? Depending if how you feel about mending your relationship with her, I would look elsewhere for a job, if not with the other agent, then someone else, unless your aunt is willing to pay a competative salary. She may have given you your start, but that doesn't make you an indentured servant, and in the end, you have to do whats best for you and your family...

 

[preslove]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Koing
How come you didn't say anything when your aunt cut down on your bonus in the first place? If the business was doing poorly then I could understand but taking 60-70 days a year off to me would indicate her business isn't doing poorly!

Koing

Well, I think they have overextended themselves, financially. They have 3 houses with a total value of over $1 million (Anyone in SE Mi knows that this is a lot), plus a ~40ft yacht, a jet boat, and they just bought a 24ft pontoon. Therefore, what sales Lola used to get 1% for, she now gets literally .01%.

Fvck them. They are scum. I wouldn't even give them notice.

 

[kranky]

I have to reserve additional comment until we hear exactly what rules prevent Lola from working for the other agent.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: kranky
I have to reserve additional comment until we hear exactly what rules prevent Lola from working for the other agent.

Seriously, I don't understand that part of the situation.

 

[Fireball77]

Sounds like now the cat is out of the bag, your aunts true colors have shown, and now you will not stress out so much when it is time to leave. Wanting to better yourself is not a bad thing like she is trying to make it out to be....things will work out in the end. Good Luck to you.

 

[SOONER]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: kranky
I have to reserve additional comment until we hear exactly what rules prevent Lola from working for the other agent.

Seriously, I don't understand that part of the situation.

She never got an official offer from the other agent, she jumped the gun and told her current boss about the 'potential' offer and now the other agent backed out of the deal because he's a wimp.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Ouch!

 

[SpiderX]

It seems like unless she signed a No-Compete clause when she started, the only reason she can't work for this other agent is due to the threats by her Aunt about getting him shut down. Which is nuts.

Take the job and run Lola!

 

[DeadByDawn]

run lola run

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: SpiderX
It seems like unless she signed a No-Compete clause when she started, the only reason she can't work for this other agent is due to the threats by her Aunt about getting him shut down. Which is nuts.

Take the job and run Lola!

Would a NC clause even matter? They both belong to the same franchise...who would she be competing against?

 

[kermalou]

Originally posted by: DeadByDawn
run lola run

listen, family and work dont always go hand in hand, find another job, not with that agent either.

 

[RMSistight]

I'm a business major at SJSU and I learned VERY early on that in business there is no such thing as "family". I know cause I personally experienced it when I was younger with my uncle. We don't consider him family anymore and my family won't be going to his funeral.

 

[teddyv]

Been there, done that - sounds like you have all the skills why not get whatever license you need and open your own agency?

Being an employer is a lot more fun than being an employee.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: SpiderX
It seems like unless she signed a No-Compete clause when she started, the only reason she can't work for this other agent is due to the threats by her Aunt about getting him shut down. Which is nuts.

Take the job and run Lola!

Would a NC clause even matter? They both belong to the same franchise...who would she be competing against?

herself. dear auntie has become so accustomed to Lola doing all the grunt work for several years that she doenst know or want to put in the time she will need to do when lola leaves. i guess dear auntie takes every friday off and the party is about to end.