Update: Journalists Freed, Bolton Complains..... Clinton Heads to Pyongyang to Negotiate for Two US Journalists Freedom

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Clinton is on his way to Pyongyang, the North Korean capital, where he will try to win the release of Laura Ling and Euna Lee, South Korea's Yonhap news agency said, citing an unidentified high-level source.

Yahoo News Associated Press Link

Kim Yong-hyun, a professor at Seoul's Dongguk University: "I think it's not just about journalists. It will serve as a turning point in the U.S.-North Korea relations," he said.

Pyongyang has expressed strong interest in one-on-one negotiations with Washington, while claiming it won't return to six-nation nuclear negotiations involving China, Japan, the two Koreas, Russia and the United States.

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Could this be the international diplomacy breakthrough Obama and the US need? I think North Korea is more suited for diplomacy than Iran; N. Korea already has the bomb, they are in a terrible economic situation, and all they seem to want is the attention they clamor for.

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North Korea Media Says Clinton in Pyongyang

Clinton landed in Pyongyang on Tuesday and was greeted at the airport by North Korean officials, including chief nuclear negotiator Kim Kye Gwan, North Korea's state news agency said in a brief dispatch. "A little girl presented a bouquet to Bill Clinton," the report said.

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John Bolton Update:

Breitbart Link

The Obama administration is rewarding North Korea for its bad behavior by sending ex-president Bill Clinton to Pyongyang to win the release of two US journalists, the former US ambassador to the UN said Tuesday.
"I think this is a win-win for North Korea," according to Bolton, who believes all negotiations are useless in trying to force North Korea to abandon its weapons-grade nuclear program.

All negotiations useless? The guy must own defense contractor stocks and have no children in the military.
 

chucky2

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Tell the Chinese we're going to start importing $25M a day less goods for every day we don't have our journalists delivered (alive) back to us.

Problem solved.

Chuck
 

chucky2

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Maybe make Clinton swallow some C4 like in the movie Hitman, and then when he's meeting with 'Ol Kimy and hopefully his sons, detonate it and solve a sh1tload of problems at once?

It could be televised...given Kim's Hollywood aspirations, I think he'd approve in at least some small way....

Chuck
 

nageov3t

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weird.

I mean, not weird that Clinton would go, but weird that Obama doesn't already have a Freeing Captive American Journalists Czar already in place.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: loki8481
weird.

I mean, not weird that Clinton would go, but weird that Obama doesn't already have a Freeing Captive American Journalists Czar already in place.

remember he asked you but you turned it down so that you could still belittle OBama..
 

ZeGermans

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Originally posted by: Dari
A nuke can arrive faster and solve far more problems.

Yes lets kill millions of innocent civilians (more than we already have through sanctions) to get one guy that doesn't like us and is dying
 

IndyColtsFan

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Originally posted by: loki8481
weird.

I mean, not weird that Clinton would go, but weird that Obama doesn't already have a Freeing Captive American Journalists Czar already in place.

Well played sir. Well played.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Dari
A nuke can arrive faster and solve far more problems.

Yes lets kill millions of innocent civilians (more than we already have through sanctions) to get one guy that doesn't like us and is dying

Right, because it is OUR fault that sanctions are in place -- North Korea didn't do ANYTHING to deserve to be sanctioned by the international community, now did they? :disgust:
 

ayabe

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Slick is great with people one on one, I think we're using him in the correct capacity in this instance.
 

Dari

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Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Dari
A nuke can arrive faster and solve far more problems.

Yes lets kill millions of innocent civilians (more than we already have through sanctions) to get one guy that doesn't like us and is dying

Are you blaming the death of millions of NK civilians on sanctions? Ahhh, now I understand why some people just want to punch bleeding-hearts in the face. It'll give them a nice reality check.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Dari
A nuke can arrive faster and solve far more problems.

Yes lets kill millions of innocent civilians (more than we already have through sanctions) to get one guy that doesn't like us and is dying

If we removed all sanctions today the only effect would be to further bolster the party elites, the NK serfs would still be starving.

That is just a foolish statement.
 

daniel49

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Hillary to Bill: He just laughed at me and called me names , can you help?

Bills ace in the hole: Knowing what a womanizer Kim Jong-il is, will offer him a date with Monica.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Dari
A nuke can arrive faster and solve far more problems.

Yes lets kill millions of innocent civilians (more than we already have through sanctions) to get one guy that doesn't like us and is dying

Are you blaming the death of millions of NK civilians on sanctions? Ahhh, now I understand why some people just want to punch bleeding-hearts in the face. It'll give them a nice reality check.

That is ZeGermans' M.O. Post ridiculous stuff that sounds like it was merely regurgitated from today's "Left Wingnut 101" course session and hope no one calls you on it. I especially love how he uses the word we when discussing who is killing people via sanctions, ignoring the fact that most of the sanctions are from the entire international community. And not to mention the fact that he acts as if North Korea is an innocent bystander that didn't do anything to deserve the sanctions.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: blanghorst
Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Dari
A nuke can arrive faster and solve far more problems.

Yes lets kill millions of innocent civilians (more than we already have through sanctions) to get one guy that doesn't like us and is dying

Right, because it is OUR fault that sanctions are in place -- North Korea didn't do ANYTHING to deserve to be sanctioned by the international community, now did they? :disgust:

Awwww come on. They invade ONE country and spark a war that kills a couple million people and you're still mad about it? That underground test that we thought was a nuke was just their attempt at making one of those kickass American flag fireworks so they could say they were sorry.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Dari
A nuke can arrive faster and solve far more problems.

They're not willing to see to the loss of life required to solve the problem. Thus the problem is never solved.
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Dari
A nuke can arrive faster and solve far more problems.

They're not willing to see to the loss of life required to solve the problem. Thus the problem is never solved.

Ok so after we start our final solution for the Palestinians - which ethnic group will the UN disenfranchise to make amends?

I love you guys advocating genocide, seriously or not, as a remedy to grievances caused by attempts to rectify a previous genocide.

I say we give them Texas.

 

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Slick is great with people one on one, I think we're using him in the correct capacity in this instance.

I completely disagree. We should be sending GWB in! :D
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Originally posted by: Dari
A nuke can arrive faster and solve far more problems.

Yes lets kill millions of innocent civilians (more than we already have through sanctions) to get one guy that doesn't like us and is dying

Are you blaming the death of millions of NK civilians on sanctions? Ahhh, now I understand why some people just want to punch bleeding-hearts in the face. It'll give them a nice reality check.

Dont feed it.


The only reason Hillary is letting Bill go to NK is because there are no fat chicks for him to stab with a cigar.