Update: I'm a idiot. Flashed to wrong bios.

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Kenny
I'm pissed for you about the 12 month thing. :disgust:

Same thing happened to me a while back; some guy didn't like his RAM so he sold it to me w/o telling me the RAM sucked at overclocking. Just told me, "Never overclocked it before, so I don't know the performance, but should run like a champ."

Lo and behold, two days later he's buying overclockable RAM at the same price I bought his RAM for.

So.. what did seller do wrong? I don't get it
 

Regs

Lifer
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Yea, flashed bios. To bad it was the wrong one. Made my computer a giant paper weight. Seems like all the drives boot up, but no beeps of course. Can't access anything.

So the leaves me with A. Have Gigabyte repair it with a new bios chip or B.Just get another mobo all together.

I'm thinking about getting one that actually lets me control my frequencies.
 

osage

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Regs, sorry to hear you are having difficulty with the Corsair XMS .

I am the person Regs traded with, and just to set the record straight for any of you ppl who may think I have done something wrong or questionable.

It is fairly common knowlege that all early pc3200 was hand picked pc2700.

the ram I traded to Regs is Corsair XMS 3200. it has always run at 200mhz 2-3-3-6 1T, or better.
It did when I tested when I bought it from a trader here in June, and it did when I shipped it to Regs.

Regs asked for a trade for a 512 of Corsair XMS pc3200, that is what I traded, no mention was made of the age, origin, or OC ability of the ram. As to the OC ability of the ram I don't know, I have always run it at 200 mhz as I do with all my pc3200.

If there is a hardware problem I do not think it is with the ram, as I tested it with Memtest the night before shipping it. It ran all night, no errors at 200mhz 2-3-3-6 1T in my A7N8X. The ram will run tighter timing than that, but that is what the spec is for the ram.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Regs
Yea, flashed bios. To bad it was the wrong one. Made my computer a giant paper weight. Seems like all the drives boot up, but no beeps of course. Can't access anything.

So the leaves me with A. Have Gigabyte repair it with a new bios chip or B.Just get another mobo all together.

I'm thinking about getting one that actually lets me control my frequencies.

that sux dude, so you are out about $150.00. :(

 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Regs
Yea, flashed bios. To bad it was the wrong one. Made my computer a giant paper weight. Seems like all the drives boot up, but no beeps of course. Can't access anything.

So the leaves me with A. Have Gigabyte repair it with a new bios chip or B.Just get another mobo all together.

I'm thinking about getting one that actually lets me control my frequencies.

that sux dude, so you are out about $150.00. :(

100 dollars. What I don't get is why my GigaByte duel bios didn't protect me. It should of posted with the back up bios if the other failed.

I hope I find out why ASAP, all ready have a new mobo on the way. Gigabytes site doesn't even have a tech support phone number, just snail mail.


And now I've learned I had to hit ctrl+f to access the submenus for the ram timings and frequencies. What crap.
 

jemcam

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Look closely at the mobo and/or the manual. Many mobos have a recover or restore feature. If you don't want to bother, I'll paypal you $5 plus shipping for it.
 

djNickb

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With the backup BIOS isn't there a jumper you have to change to boot from the secondary BIOS?
 
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You should be able to engage Dual Bios by holding/rapidly pummeling the Insert key on boot with a floppy in the A drive. Yes, I know you don't have one. Install one.

- M4H
 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
You should be able to engage Dual Bios by holding/rapidly pummeling the Insert key on boot with a floppy in the A drive. Yes, I know you don't have one. Install one.

- M4H

Insert, you sure? Or is it the F1 key? My manual states nothing about it.
 

ndee

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lol, sorry when I laugh but.... "Yea, flashed bios. To bad it was the wrong one. Made my computer a giant paper weight." was just golden :D
 
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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
You should be able to engage Dual Bios by holding/rapidly pummeling the Insert key on boot with a floppy in the A drive. Yes, I know you don't have one. Install one.

- M4H

Insert, you sure? Or is it the F1 key? My manual states nothing about it.

One of the two. I had a Gigabyte KT266A board a long time ago and hosed it when the power went off midflash. After mashing the entire F-key series as well as insert + delete, I managed to get the floppy drive to light up, then finally a "please reboot" and it was ALIIIIIIVE! :D

- M4H
 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
You should be able to engage Dual Bios by holding/rapidly pummeling the Insert key on boot with a floppy in the A drive. Yes, I know you don't have one. Install one.

- M4H

Insert, you sure? Or is it the F1 key? My manual states nothing about it.

One of the two. I had a Gigabyte KT266A board a long time ago and hosed it when the power went off midflash. After mashing the entire F-key series as well as insert + delete, I managed to get the floppy drive to light up, then finally a "please reboot" and it was ALIIIIIIVE! :D

- M4H


lol. How did you narrow it down to the Insert key? lol.

Edit: Ok Merc, I checked up on that on google. It appears F1 brings me to the speical BIOS screen. I hope this works. If it does, Duel Bios is the best thing that ever happened.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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heh i wish my epox 8kta3pro had dual bios. My daughter turned it off while in the middle fo a bios update.
 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: waggy
heh i wish my epox 8kta3pro had dual bios. My daughter turned it off while in the middle fo a bios update.

Well, these things aren't full proof. Like what It did to me just presently. It should not of allowed me to successfully install a different type of Gigabyte's Bios on top of mine. So now my mobo thinks the bios is fine and that's why it did not switch over to the back up bios automatically upon restart.

So now I have to hope either the key strokes work, or there just happens to be a jumper on the mother board to set it (which gigabyte decided to get rid of on older models a.k.a. jumper desert).

Like Tomshardware said, It's like having a spare tire in the trunk but you're locked out of the trunk.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
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If you've got another computer that uses the same physical size of BIOS chip (may be other parameters to look for, like the Mbit size of the chip itself, if that is even relevant), you can do a hot-swap. The manual can probably tell you (or maybe something on Google) which chip the BIOS is, if you don't know.

Boot the good computer with a floppy disk that has the dead one's BIOS file and the flashing utility.
While it's still runing, open the computer, and pop out the BIOS chip. Put the "dead" BIOS chip into the computer, and run the flashing utility. After it is done, shut down, and put the newly flashed chip back in its original PC.

This procedure essentially uses your PC as a EEPROM flasher. Once the system is booted, it doesn't really need the BIOS chip, so you can pop it out, and replace it with the dead one.
I did this already with two 8RDA+ boards, and both survived just fine. Thing is, when you're in the PC messing around with a small screwdriver, you don't want to slip. :)
 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Sureshot324
You're sure there's no reset cmos jumper?

That doesn't help when you --successfully-- flash the bios chip with the wrong bios.

And it turns out my version of the KT800 gigabyte doesn't have duel bios. Needless to say, I'm pissed.

But thankfully, I got money coming out of my arse right now. So I'm just going to buy one that actually has all these added features, and sell off my older Gigabyte once the RMA goes though. I don't feel like waiting two weeks.