UPDATE- Fresh hell: son involved in golf cart accident, what do I do?

Fritzo

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My son went to a lake house that's 1.5 hours away owned by his friend's grandfather. They were there for an hour when we got a call- my son and his friend were on their golf cart, and my son backed it into a utility pole, taking down the pole (and electricity to the neighborhood), and damaging the cart.

My son was driving it, and he's never driven anything in his life (he has vision problems). If the damage is as bad as he's describing, it could be a few thousand dollars in damage---which we can not afford at this point.

If we get charged for damages, is this something our homeowners insurance would cover? Would their homeowner's insurance cover it and we'll cover the deductible? I have no idea what to do here.

That kid is going to bankrupt us- he's broken his jaw twice in 6 months (and oral surgery isn't covered by our insurance), so that was $8000 out of pocket, and now this :(

UPDATE: OK, got details:

He backed into a utility pole, and the transformer at the top of the pole fell off (!!!!!!!), taking the lines with it. There was little to no damage to the cart.

At most, we'd be liable for the electrical repairs, but HOW THE HELL DO THOSE THINGS FALL OFF OF POLES WHEN THEY'RE BUMPED???!!! HE COULD HAVE BEEN KILLED!!!!

UPDATE 2: My son came home yesterday and we got the full account of the story. He was invited to drive the golf cart by his friend. He had to back out of a driveway (and has never driven anything faster than a lawn tractor before). While backing out, he hit a utility pole at about 10mph. There was no damage to the golf cart, but one of these things fell down and took all the powerlines with it:

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There were sparks flying everywhere, and the golf cart's owner was screaming at the boys right after it happened in a panic reaction. The power company came out and determined the transformer was not secured properly to the pole. No charges will come out of it.

*relief* I can take my add off of Craigslist to sell him for organ harvesting now.
 
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Tweak155

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Get all the details first, then figure out your options. Any advice right now is just speculation.
 

highland145

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Took the pole out? Dang. Glad there aren't any fatalities.

And I don't know about the insurance. Check with your agent.
 

Mayne

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Sounds like jack daniels strikes again. Cover your ass by getting all the details.
 

z1ggy

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Wait.. Why would home owners insurance cover somebody driving a golf cart into a utility pole? But odds are if your son does happen to be at fault, you'll be liable for repair costs. I'm trying to think of a way you'd be covered, but I'm drawing a blank.

Who ever owns the golf cart, perhaps they have golf cart insurance that would cover damage to, and caused by a driver of said cart?
 

Humpy

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Sue the golf cart maker. Sue the pole manufacturer and installer. Sue your son's friend. Sue the phone company. Sue the Grandfather. Sue the eye doctor. Sue the insurance companies. Sue everyone who lives, or used to live, by the lake.
 

DesiPower

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Sorry to hear, it sucks, atleast he is OK. I don't think any insurance would cover it except for something like umbrella. Was police called? was any type of case registered? If so them a lawyer could help. Otherwise wait and see what utility company says or asks from you. Is they sue you for damages then again, lawyer or some sort of legal advise would be required. Unless the utility company drops the issue, you would be stuck with a hefty bill. Good luck
 

Jeeebus

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Make sure you report this to your insurance - whether they ultimately cover it or not you're giving them an excuse to not cover by not immediately reporting. Have a copy of your policy so you can personally read through the exclusions.
 

Ns1

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Sue your friends granddad - it's his fault your son got access to the golf cart. It's the American way.
 

sactoking

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Non-road legal vehicles, like most golf carts, are considered personal property under your homeowners insurance. Negligence to others and property not involving an automobile is also typically covered under homeowners. Will probably be a fight between insurers to determine who is liable, but one of the two homeowners policies should cover it. The question then is what is the limit of liability.
 

clamum

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Sue the golf cart maker. Sue the pole manufacturer and installer. Sue your son's friend. Sue the phone company. Sue the Grandfather. Sue the eye doctor. Sue the insurance companies. Sue everyone who lives, or used to live, by the lake.
Sounds like standard procedure these days.
 

Anubis

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Not sure if it was a pole of a junction box at this point. Details are sketchy, I just know of the situation right now.

yea details are important. im not sure a golf cart could take out a pole without killing the people in the cart in the process
 

monkeydelmagico

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Same thought as above. Very difficult to image a golf cart winning a fight with a telephone pole unless it was rocket propelled.

Utility company is going to have to prove negligence. Ohio is an at fault state. Owner of golf cart is partially at fault too. There is some comparative negligence so should be shared damages. They might have some ATV coverage but doubtful.

I'm not a lawyer but have owned or been around ATV's most of my life. I'm lumping the golf cart in as similar and extrapolating based on some other bad situations I've seen occur related to ATV's.
 

5to1baby1in5

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My daughter chucked a wii-mote into a friend's plasma TV, and it was covered by my homeowner's insurance.
 

Platypus

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good luck, Fritzo.

If you end up getting stuck with the bill in the end, let us know. I'll toss some $ your way.
 

Anubis

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Not sure if it was a pole of a junction box at this point. Details are sketchy, I just know of the situation right now.

if its just a junction box the utility co will fix it and you should not be on the hook for that much. and your homeowners might cover it,

the cart would prob be all you to fix however
 

Anubis

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Wait.. Why would home owners insurance cover somebody driving a golf cart into a utility pole? But odds are if your son does happen to be at fault, you'll be liable for repair costs. I'm trying to think of a way you'd be covered, but I'm drawing a blank.

Who ever owns the golf cart, perhaps they have golf cart insurance that would cover damage to, and caused by a driver of said cart?

depends on the policy but homeowners can cover a ton of things
 

SlitheryDee

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Lawsuit considerations aside, wouldn't it make some sense that the grandfather would share some of the guilt, and therefore liability, because he failed to properly supervise the children?
 

Fritzo

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Lawsuit considerations aside, wouldn't it make some sense that the grandfather would share some of the guilt, and therefore liability, because he failed to properly supervise the children?

This sounds stupid, but we watch Judge Judy a lot, and in these types of accidents, that's exactly what she says. If permission was given for use on private property, the owner is liable. My conscience wouldn't let me offer some sort of compensation however. Homeowners insurance does cover a lot of things (it even covered a can of paint ruining our carpet once), so I'm hoping there's some coverage there. I'll post as more info comes in.

Thanks for the responses everyone!
 

CADsortaGUY

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Non-road legal vehicles, like most golf carts, are considered personal property under your homeowners insurance. Negligence to others and property not involving an automobile is also typically covered under homeowners. Will probably be a fight between insurers to determine who is liable, but one of the two homeowners policies should cover it. The question then is what is the limit of liability.

This. As a golf cart owner, I checked if I needed special coverage when we bought it. Liability on Homeowners is pretty broad, but I would suggest everyone have an umbrella policy too if they have kids ;)