Question Update for Windows 11

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What is the safest and most efficient way to upgrade to Windows 11 without losing files, settings, and programs on a PC without TPM 2.0 support (i5 3470, 16GB DDR3 RAM) and without a USB flash drive or DVD disc? I have the Windows 11 ISO on my PC.
 
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Run that and then mount the ISO (right click ISO file and click Mount) and run Setup.exe (the one with the kinda green looking icon) in the mounted virtual DVD drive.

It's very painless. I was surprised how quickly it finished on a 15W Core i7-1065G7.
 

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Run that and then mount the ISO (right click ISO file and click Mount) and run Setup.exe (the one with the kinda green looking icon) in the mounted virtual DVD drive.

It's very painless. I was surprised how quickly it finished on a 15W Core i7-1065G7.
Works in W11 Pro x64 25H2? not block features, updates, not remove files original system iso? programs i use w10 works normally?
 
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in future updates blocke by microsoft because incompatible hardware?
There is a possibility. My suggestion would be to turn off Windows Updates. Every six months or so, make a complete backup of the Windows partition, turn on updates and see what happens after the reboot. If it works fine, you are good. If not, revert to the partition backup and never update Windows again. At that point, if you want more updates, either use Win11 LTSC or upgrade your hardware.
 
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There is a possibility. My suggestion would be to turn off Windows Updates. Every six months or so, make a complete backup of the Windows partition, turn on updates and see what happens after the reboot. If it works fine, you are good. If not, revert to the partition backup and never update Windows again. At that point, if you want more updates, either use Win11 LTSC or upgrade your hardware.
Normal updates every patch tuesday won't be blocked. But when the next major annual update comes (26H2?), it won't be offered to machines which don't meet microsoft's draconian requirements. You'll have to download the new ISO and apply the needed workarounds to install it.

I've done it several times, and the easiest is to use rufus to create an installer flash USB drive. Rufus has all the needed patches for noncompliant computers. A popup window will let you select the specific patches you need (or just select all of them). You can either boot the USB if you want a clean install, or you can also just run the setup file on the USB drive if you want to do an update install but ( keeping all your current software and settings ).
 
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Normal updates every patch tuesday won't be blocked. But when the next major annual update comes (26H2?), it won't be offered to machines which don't meet microsoft's draconian requirements. You'll have to download the new ISO and apply the needed workarounds to install it.

I've done it several times, and the easiest is to use rufus to create an installer flash USB drive. Rufus has all the needed patches for noncompliant computers. A popup window will let you select the specific patches you need (or just select all of them). You can either boot the USB if you want a clean install, or you can also just run the setup file on the USB drive if you want to do an update install but ( keeping all your current software and settings ).
i not have usb flash drive or dvd disc, some ISO file in PC is possibly use Rufus for update my pc for W11 without TPM2.0?
 

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i not have usb flash drive or dvd disc, some ISO file in PC is possibly use Rufus for update my pc for W11 without TPM2.0?
No. Just buy a cheap flash drive, about 8 GB or larger. Even an old USB 2 type will work fine, just slower.

Or, look through the cushions on your sofa and you'll likely scrape up enough coins to buy one. :)
 
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Or borrow from a friend. I always do this at work because they use the USBs to transfer small files from one PC to another (not on the same network). So I borrow the USB, save whatever is on it on my work PC SSD, format with Rufus and after I'm done installing Windows, I create a folder and hide all the root files and folders in that folder. Then copy the original data back from my SSD to that USB. Now the USB still retains boot capability and if I need to use it again, I will move the existing data to some temp folder on the USB, move the Windows setup files back to root and it works again.
 

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I only use relatively fast flash drives for the Windows install, but then I spend a fair bit of time doing Windows clean installs. I'd say I save about 20 minutes waiting time on my normal PC builds.
 

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pendrive usb + iso w11 + rufus some format? not delete files and programs?

rufus is the best for disable tpm2.0 and security block old machines?
 

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you method not disabed tpm2.0

setup /product server ignores the CPU and TPM "requirements".

PS - just remembered - I haven't tried to do anything with 25H2 yet, my suggestion works with 24H2 and predecessors.
 
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I upgraded a desktop with a 3rd gen i5, no TPM, 8 gig of ram to 25H2 using Rufus.

Runs fine, for an W11 install. (W11 sucks balls on any hardware, it's just not a reliable OS, even compared to W10)
 
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That CPU doesn't need a bypass it is officially supported.
Not for the TPM requirement bypass. For the local account restriction, in case M$ makes it even harder to create the local account in the future. Installing Win10 and then running Win11 setup from inside it is one sure way to achieve that goal.