UPDATE!!!! Dilemma in the dojo - should I kick this kid's ass?

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Maverick2002

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I would say get a clean victory. If you disqualify yourself you'd sink to his level. If that doesn't satisfy you enough and/or he goes on BSing, find him outside and whip him good.
 
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Just fight a clean fight. Win or lose, that will probably frustrate him more than you trying to break his face, and showing discipline and restraint can impress an instructor as much as raw skill.
 

QueHuong

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If you go in there pissed off, you might lose because you're so preoccupied with hating him you'll get frustrated and be mentally drained. Just go in confident and carefree then win.

If you were just a student, I'd probably say beat his ass to teach him a lesson, but you're an instructor - it's expected of you to show self control.
 

Spac3d

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Break his face and the face of anyone who came to watch him. That should teach him...

Spac3d
 

GoodToGo

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Talk to your instructor and see what he says. It may turn out that he might set you up for an all out match against this guy. In that match, kick his ass back to the stone age!
 

fastz28

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You've already lost.

I can't blame others for wanting to beat his ass, but I would expect more mental stregth from someone of your level.
 

QueHuong

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It may turn out that he might set you up for an all out match against this guy.

Was your martial art school run by a nazi? I highly doubt a instructor would tell a student of his to go into the ring and beat the hell out of a guy out of malice.
 

Jfur

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No, no, no. Don't kick his ass, although I KNOW it's tempting. It's more important to keep your cool and honor your instructor. Just do your damdest to make him lose control and humiliate himself while you come out looking very innocent. Someone else on the street will teach him the hard physical lessons he needs to learn.
 

PowerMac4Ever

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Originally posted by: fastz28
You've already lost.

I can't blame others for wanting to beat his ass, but I would expect more mental stregth from someone of your level.
Dude, did you read the thread? He's just asking for advice/opinions. He didn't come here saying "I'm going to kick his ass!!!!!". Most of the people are telling him to do the right thing, and that's good.

I wonder if anyone else has this problem with him. If so, you have even less to worry about. You are the better man here, don't F it up. The trick is to not care what he thinks. I bet he doesn't get any of the respect that he craves in the real world, which is why he's such an ass in the dojo. Oh, and what Jfur said.
 

tcsenter

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Grasshoppa, use the force. Wait, that was another movie...

Wax on...your upper lip. Wait...damn!

This is a good opportunity to learn restraint in the face of an overwhelming urge to kick someone's ass. Don't lose your cool. Just work harder and hand his ass to him cleanly.
 

fastz28

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Dude, did you read the thread? He's just asking for advice/opinions. He didn't come here saying "I'm going to kick his ass!!!!!".

Dude, do you practice martial art? He's already lost by considering use his training for this purpose.
 

trenchfoot

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kind'a looks to me like you're being watched and evaluated to see how you handle this situation. this F guy needs to be taught a lesson, but let the sensei and his associates do that. that's their job, and your job is to show your sensei that you look at this F guy the same way they do. learn from this shallow spoiled brat everything you can, as he is offering you a rare opportunity to help you strenghten your mind and attain a higher level of discipline and correct focus. this F guy is a distraction only if you want him to be. rest assured that he can never attain what you are capable of as he is incapable of humble self-reflection, which is essential for developing your ki-me, the true strength in us all. :)
 
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Originally posted by: fastz28
You've already lost.

I can't blame others for wanting to beat his ass, but I would expect more mental stregth from someone of your level.

It may be so, but was it right for him to do so? I realize that I should be the better man, but ultimately, what do I get out of this? I've spent years abstaining from doing a lot of (fun) things because I'm in MA - but is it even wrong to feel that a wrong should be justified? And as some of you may have guessed, I just don't like his attitude and frankly, I don't think anyone's going to do a thing about it except reprimand him from time to time. That's both an insult to me and the school that we both represent. How do you feel about that?

Originally posted by: MindStorm
It may turn out that he might set you up for an all out match against this guy.

Was your martial art school run by a nazi? I highly doubt a instructor would tell a student of his to go into the ring and beat the hell out of a guy out of malice.

Like I said, I'm one of the head instructors now - in my branch club, at least. And knowing my ex-instructor, like oh-so-many of you said, he's the exact opposite of that - he'd kick my ass for even considering that as his student and wouldn't care about the other kid because he's an "outsider", so to speak. And now that i think about it, that happened to me once before. Fun stuff. :D

And I'm not sadistic or any thing but . . .
Originally posted by: eakers
BREAK HIS FACE. VIDEOTAPE IT AND PUT IT ONLINE FOR US ALL TO SEE.
God that's sexy. And especially since you're telling me what I want to do (but which I ultimately shouldn't). You sexy b!tch! ;)
 

WarCon

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Sounds like you have a long road in front of you still. This "slight" is obviously dominating you when it simply shouldn't. Do not let the petty human emotion of revenge (especially on something so miniscule) rule your thoughts and thereby dictate your actions. Without you realizing it, this "kid" has put your thoughts into a prison, forced you to waste precious time and raised the depth of your thought to his.

 
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Originally posted by: WarCon
Sounds like you have a long road in front of you still. This "slight" is obviously dominating you when it simply shouldn't. Do not let the petty human emotion of revenge (especially on something so miniscule) rule your thoughts and thereby dictate your actions. Without you realizing it, this "kid" has put your thoughts into a prison, forced you to waste precious time and raised the depth of your thought to his.

But that's the theme of countless hong kong flicks! Have I been deceived all this time?:Q

Kidding, kidding . . .. Yeah, I'm petty, I suppose - but I'm only 21 - I'm at the height of my youth - isn't it only natural to feel this way? I know it's wrong, but still, I feel as if I've been wronged (on a small, miniscule scale) - I know it's not a big deal, but at the same time it's been annoying me like an itch you can't scratch - ack!

Anyhoo, I was thinking I was going to follow the majority rule from the beginning anyhoo. But it would feel really, really good if I did what eakers told me to do . . .. :D
 

Lithium381

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Originally posted by: notfred
Accidentally run over his dog with your car.

his dog never did anything! You're a sick MOFO!

i'd say talk to your instructor......be a bigger person and not go down to his level, you've got more self-control than that eh!? good luck!
 

HamSupLo

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it'll be cool if you can reinact that one scene in Bloodsport when Van Damm gets blinded and starts screaming. hahaah. don't forget to do some splits.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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You gotta videotape this man, that would be sweet!

I say you should definitely break his face, at the very least, or as someone else suggested "Put him in a body bag, Johnny".

P.S. are you from the Cobra Kai Dojo?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Don't.........

1) lower yourself to his level
2) belittle and disrespect your own skill and self control
3) dishonor and disrespect your school and your grandmaster

Keep your chin up. By your considering lowering yourself to his level, you're already getting close to it. Think about it before you do it. Now that you're this close to actually showing yourself to be a fool just as he is, make the effort to take a little extra time to control yourself and think about each action before you do it and each word before you say it.

You're still better than he is... now prove it. :)

nik
 

Shockwave

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Talk to your Sifu (Well, thats what we call our head instructor) and explain how you feel, and why/ Make SURE he understands how you feel about it, if he's a good instructor (Whcih most are) he will be more alert when you do spar F, and will keep an eye out for what he's doing. Also, if you feel the need, bring up F's past history as far as actions and reprimands. Obviously, the instructors know there is a problem with F, as multiple disciplining's (Is that a word?) shows he is a problem. I remember our Sifu told one guy to calm down, or leave. The guy calmed down, talked to Sifu, then left for the day to cool down. Thats one thing I really liked about our Sifu, he was very open and didnt take ANY crap.
Anyways, just let your instructor know how you feel and what has happened, then go fight him clean and fair. If the instructor has forewarning about how you feel, he'll be more alert for any crap F might try. Remember, honor above all else my friend.