UPDATE: ANOTHER Question on copy of NFR WinXP Pro!

[freemanteo]

I traded with a guy for his NFR WINXP Pro.

1: How can i know for sure it is a no time limit for this NFR WinXP?

2: How do i know it is brand specific disc... eg; Dell, HP........

3: How can i check if the disc is not registered or the cd-key not used without ACTUALLY installing the winxp pro.

On the disc, it says 2002, NFR WINXP Pro, bottom have a hologram Genuine/Microsoft. Well, the whole disc has hologram effects. It comes with the cd sleeve with cd key and some barcode and made in usa/canada.... blah blah blah


I'm new at this, sorry.
Thanks.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

if he registered it it is not likely to work on your computer.

 

[waggy]

If it was registerd on his computer and he still has it running then NO its not OK to trade with him.

 

[NogginBoink]

Was it registered or activated? I suspect you mean activated.

NFR means "not for resale" and technically, trading it like this is probably resale according to Microsoft.

OTOH, you'll probably be just fine. You can activate on a new computer and be fine.

 

[freemanteo]

thanks, i meant he activated it.

So there is no big deal on activation, right?

 

[SunnyD]

As long as he's not still running that key, it would run. However NFR means you may not change ownership of that particular media without the expressed written permission of, in this case, Microsoft.

There's a reason why AT FS/FT forbids trading of NFR software.

 

[ThaGrandCow]

How come people are saying that if the CD key is running on one computer it won't work on another one at the same time? I've seen 2 computers running on the same cd key NFR XP professional at the same time, both hooked up to cable modem and fully activated.

I thought one of the concessions MS made when they released the activation system was that you could use the same CD key 4 or 6 times in a 6 month period.

Either way, I'd still be wary buying pre-activated XP because what's stopping the person from keeping the CD key and re-using it for his systems as well as yours. I'd trust a friend on a deal like this, I dunno about someone I met on an Internet forum.

 

[brxndxn]

Technically, it IS illegal for Microsoft to forbid you from passing ownership of a product. Merely call them up and say it was given to you and the original computer it was on was parted out and the hard drive formatted.

All the people saying it's illegal to resell a 'not for resale' copy are idiots. It is NOT illegal by any means; it is merely against Microsoft's idea of what they want you to be able to do with their software. Microsoft cannot make their own laws - but they can lie about law all they want.

 

[ThaGrandCow]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Technically, it IS illegal for Microsoft to forbid you from passing ownership of a product. Merely call them up and say it was given to you and the original computer it was on was parted out and the hard drive formatted.

All the people saying it's illegal to resell a 'not for resale' copy are idiots. It is NOT illegal by any means; it is merely against Microsoft's idea of what they want you to be able to do with their software. Microsoft cannot make their own laws - but they can lie about law all they want.

Yes and no. As a commercial business it is illegal to resell, but as a personal seller you do have the right of first ownership (or something along those lines, I forget the exact term). Just like with music CD's and books once it's in your hands you can do whatever you want with it, but only on a personal level. Stores cannot resell NFR stuff.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow

Originally posted by: brxndxn
Technically, it IS illegal for Microsoft to forbid you from passing ownership of a product. Merely call them up and say it was given to you and the original computer it was on was parted out and the hard drive formatted.

All the people saying it's illegal to resell a 'not for resale' copy are idiots. It is NOT illegal by any means; it is merely against Microsoft's idea of what they want you to be able to do with their software. Microsoft cannot make their own laws - but they can lie about law all they want.

Yes and no. As a commercial business it is illegal to resell, but as a personal seller you do have the right of first ownership (or something along those lines, I forget the exact term). Just like with music CD's and books once it's in your hands you can do whatever you want with it, but only on a personal level. Stores cannot resell NFR stuff.

As a company didn't make any agreement with MS not to resale the software then they can legally resell the software.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
How come people are saying that if the CD key is running on one computer it won't work on another one at the same time? I've seen 2 computers running on the same cd key NFR XP professional at the same time, both hooked up to cable modem and fully activated.

I thought one of the concessions MS made when they released the activation system was that you could use the same CD key 4 or 6 times in a 6 month period.

Either way, I'd still be wary buying pre-activated XP because what's stopping the person from keeping the CD key and re-using it for his systems as well as yours. I'd trust a friend on a deal like this, I dunno about someone I met on an Internet forum.

I wasn't talking a technical standpoint - I was talking a legal standpoint. Legally, if he's using the key, you can't. Don't mean you "can't" however.

 

You should be aware that most "NFR" copies of Windows XP are brand specific. Meaning, if it came with a Dell, and says "NFR Dell....", then it will work ONLY in a Dell machine.

 

[freemanteo]

He said he got it from a MS seminar. Activated it once more than a yr ago and not used the same copy again.

If i got the NFR copy, and i found out that he is using the CD key on his computers, can i contact microsoft to stop him from using it? Or am i at a losing end here?

 

[freemanteo]

bump

 

[freemanteo]

BUMP FOR NEW QUESTIONS, thanks.

UPDATED: 4-11-04

 

[freemanteo]

bump for advice

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

call microsoft and find out for your damn self