UPDATE 3: One dumbass burglar caught, smart one at large. Idiots trashed the place!

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akodi

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jeez the security guys are a bunch of retards. i don't see how they couldn't be suspicious of a broken window and scuffed up door...makes me question what the heck the cops were doing.
 

DanTMWTMP

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man..i remember i missed a call from the alarm company (was in shower)...only to find out later a cop was sneaking around in the backyard :Q

sue the alarm company..if no one responds, cops should be sent immediately..what super buttholes
 

TheNinja

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Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: BillGates
Did they steal the kitchen sink?

If I were a career robber, I would steal the kitchen sink. That way people would be like, "He took everything AND kitchen sink!" After a while people would see the humour in it and, if caught, people would find it in their hearts to forgive me.

Jack Handy....is that you? ;)
 

DannyBoy

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<waterboy quote>
cut his fvcking head off! :D
</waterboy quote>

on another note, you should be able to sue the security company for not doing what they were supposed to.
 

alkemyst

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One of the method's burglars use is to set off 'falses' until the cops stop showing up. It's not hard to trip a glass break. Usually after the second call in a night cops stop responding.

 

paulney

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Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP
man..i remember i missed a call from the alarm company (was in shower)...only to find out later a cop was sneaking around in the backyard :Q

I once forgot to swith off the alarm in my apartment in the city. In about five minutes there's a door buzz ringing. I open the door to see two barrels in my face. :Q Two SWAT-type guys arrived to check on the apartment.

Showed them my passport and stuff, and they left. But I was fined for a false alarm.
 

Beau

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Originally posted by: Toasthead
This is like the old car alarm trick...keep setting off the car alarm until the person get fed up and diarms it...THEN ROB THEM.

Exactly what it was...

And this is a dream of a lawsuit.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: zaku
how do you claim the loss from insurance? what if you no longer have receipts of stuff you bought years ago? and expensive jewelry type items that were given to you? how would the insurance co. know what was lost?
It's based on trust. They expect a house to have certain things. If you claim that you had a $15,000 rug, they'll want a receipt. If you had a $700 computer, $500 TV, $1200 couch, etc. they'll trust you on it. Pictures are not a bad idea though, and I really should have some myself.

my insurance covers up to a certain amount (i dont recall the amount right now) for cost of replacement for fire/theft and maybe something else, come to think of it, maybe i should glance at that policy again since i cant recall anythinb about it

sorry about your moms place, burglars are more of an ass than i am
 

sugar

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I'm really sorry to hear about your mom's place. I bet she was frantic when she saw all her years of stuff just gone!

I used to live in a bad neighborhood and got robbed. The guy stole a bunch of "carry" stuff, including my digital camera with an LCD screen.

After calling the police and cancelling checks, I called around to local pawn shops. When I reached the one he pawned my digital camera at, he was just walking out the door of the pawn shop. When I got there, I started looking thru the pics on the camera, and sure enough, he had taken a perfect face shot of himself!!! Not only that, but he pawned the camera in his own name!!! So we knew who he was AND what he looked like. He was caught within a matter of days and I got all my stuff back!!

(This story made it to World's Dumbest Criminals!)
 

UNCjigga

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Some updates:

Okay, lot of misinformation in first post thanks to mom who tends to 'exaggerate'.

Not 'everything' was gone. That burglar was in and out in a flash since he likely did it in daylight, and he wasn't sure if he had successfully disabled the alarm. Basically he stole the TV, VCR, DVD, microwave, some jewellery, and mom's checkbooks (even stole the check registers!) Mom already froze the checking account, and everything else is insured.

Before entering the house, burglar cut the phone wires, the cable TV (lol mom doesn't even have cable), the ground wire, and pulled the meter off the outside wall to disable the electricity (pretty effective way of cutting off power.) The alarm company never knew the alarm was tripped because its a phoneline-based system (not one of the sophisticated systems that can tell when the lines are cut.) The alarm still had a battery backup and went off when he broke in, but he just pulled it off the wall and ripped out the battery!

Cops checked the scene and found no tracks, no prints (he wore HD gloves to smash windows), save for one boot print (see below.) But for all his supposed smarts, why the hell did he rip out the doorbell too?? Guess he thought it was part of the alarm. And why did he pick a window 10 feet off the ground and too small to crawl through as his first point of attack?

Also, after talking to the neighbors, we found out the guy across the street was just robbed on Monday! He was also not home when it occurred, and the guy just walked in through the front door. He did NOT have an alarm (is buying one now though) and a LOT MORE was stolen from him. Cops NEVER MENTIONED this robbery even though it was reported!!!

Anyways, here's some pics:

First break-in attempt (~3:20 AM)
Second attempt (~5:00 AM)
Third time's a charm (Time ???)
He cut the wires. Pic taken after the meter was reattached, see the red tape.
Not the alarm company's fault!
The only evidence. Boot print found on HVAC unit outside the house (he stood hear to break 1st window)
Friend helping to vacuum broken glass in shopvac
Hopefully the door is secured now We also hammered the other door back into shape, nailed the wood splinters together, and fixed the lock (temporary solution.) We've already ordered new glass for the kitchen door and a new front door.

edit: sorry for the late pics, I messed up the links.

 

Ime

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Stuff like this makes me wish we all had laws like Texas when it comes to burgular's and night-time. :)
 

Actaeon

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I dont' see any pics.

Sucks for your mom. I'd definatly do something about this, espically in regards to the security company.

EDIT: Ah, there it is.
 

DaWhim

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Originally posted by: Jigga
Some updates:

Okay, lot of misinformation in first post thanks to mom who tends to 'exaggerate'.

Not 'everything' was gone. That burglar was in and out in a flash since he likely did it in daylight, and he wasn't sure if he had successfully disabled the alarm. Basically he stole the TV, VCR, DVD, microwave, some jewellery, and mom's checkbooks (even stole the check registers!) Mom already froze the checking account, and everything else is insured.

Before entering the house, burglar cut the phone wires, the cable TV (lol mom doesn't even have cable), the ground wire, and pulled the meter off the outside wall to disable the electricity (pretty effective way of cutting off power.) The alarm company never knew the alarm was tripped because its a phoneline-based system (not one of the sophisticated systems that can tell when the lines are cut.) The alarm still had a battery backup and went off when he broke in, but he just pulled it off the wall and ripped out the battery!

Cops checked the scene and found no tracks, no prints (he wore HD gloves to smash windows), save for one boot print (see below.) But for all his supposed smarts, why the hell did he rip out the doorbell too?? Guess he thought it was part of the alarm. And why did he pick a window 10 feet off the ground and too small to crawl through as his first point of attack?

Also, after talking to the neighbors, we found out the guy across the street was just robbed on Monday! He was also not home when it occurred, and the guy just walked in through the front door. He did NOT have an alarm (is buying one now though) and a LOT MORE was stolen from him. Cops NEVER MENTIONED this robbery even though it was reported!!!

Anyways, here's some pics:

First break-in attempt (~3:20 AM)
Second attempt (~5:00 AM)
Third time's a charm (Time ???)
He cut the wires. Pic taken after the meter was reattached, see the red tape.
Not the alarm company's fault!
The only evidence. Boot print found on HVAC unit outside the house (he stood hear to break 1st window)
Friend helping to vacuum broken glass in shopvac
Hopefully the door is secured now We also hammered the other door back into shape, nailed the wood splinters together, and fixed the lock (temporary solution.) We've already ordered new glass for the kitchen door and a new front door.

edit: sorry for the late pics, I messed up the links.

come on, put the pic on your first thread.
 

StageLeft

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Yeah that really does suck. I was told by ADT that they could tell if the phoneline had been disconnected between your house and the rest of the street (since cutting off that is obviously not easy), but I didn't look into it much. A lot of places have cellphone backup, but of course that's pretty expensive.
 

TGregg

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That sux man. Just wanted to point out that your mom should consider making that back door a double-dead bolt - one that requires a key from either side to work. Makes it a bit tougher on bad guys.
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: TGregg
That sux man. Just wanted to point out that your mom should consider making that back door a double-dead bolt - one that requires a key from either side to work. Makes it a bit tougher on bad guys.

And also makes it easier to die in a fire.
 

UNCjigga

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Originally posted by: TGregg
That sux man. Just wanted to point out that your mom should consider making that back door a double-dead bolt - one that requires a key from either side to work. Makes it a bit tougher on bad guys.
Duly noted. The new door in front will also have a deadbolt...the kind that goes past the frame into the wall stud.

 

TommyVercetti

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Sorry to hear that.

I bet Sherlock Homes could tell who the burglur was, what his or her motive was, and what they had for breakfast, just by taking a single look at the bootprint.
 

m2kewl

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Oct 7, 2001
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this is why my friend has wireless cams on their front/back entrance and driveway of the house.
 

UNCjigga

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Originally posted by: m2kewl
this is why my friend has wireless cams on their front/back entrance and driveway of the house.
Did he actually click on an X10 ad?? :confused:

 

Mean MrMustard

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Originally posted by: Ime
Stuff like this makes me wish we all had laws like Texas when it comes to burgular's and night-time. :)

Yes I know. But in this case it wouldn't matter. No one was home.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jigga
Originally posted by: TGregg
That sux man. Just wanted to point out that your mom should consider making that back door a double-dead bolt - one that requires a key from either side to work. Makes it a bit tougher on bad guys.
Duly noted. The new door in front will also have a deadbolt...the kind that goes past the frame into the wall stud.

If the front door didn't have a deadbolt the alarm company should have recommended that first.

Also with the double key deadbolts....these are one of the leading causes for older people to be trapped in their homes during a fire. I don't feel they offer security other than monitored (say keeping kids inside). This is because to defeat a normal deadbolt you still have to break some glass to get in. A little more probably will not make a difference. Also with a screwdriver they can take apart the lock and defeat it that way usually anyway.

An alarm with monitoring is about your only hope for defense. In this case they found the perfect way to defeat it though. I am sure other theives will be using these methods more and more. It's the same as car alarms. No one even pays attention to them....there was a tv show that had people walking right by a staged car break in with alarms blaring. The guys looked like crooks and I think no one called at all. One of the crooks even got a walker-by to assist him to hold something.

That's our society. What did her neighbors say?

&Aring;