UPDATE #1: Grandpa is getting kicked out of his house!!!

Busie23

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So my step-grandmother passed away a few nights ago and apparently she had been milking my grandpa of all his money for years. He was under the impression that all of his money was going into their bank account etc, but in reality it was going to her son. She has one bank account and it hs about 2k in it, everything else is gone.

More importantly the house that my grandpa paid off years ago is now owned by her son she somehow managed to get the title in her sons name, along with their two cars as well.

So her son told my grandpa that he can live there for four or five months until he found somewhere else to live and that he can have the minivan that he paid for in cash about two years ago.

Then today my dad was trying to find out where all of my grandpa's savings are at so he calls her son. He was acting like a real asshat and now says my grandpa can only have the van when he moves out which he is only giving him three months to live there now. On top of all this her son has cleaned out the house of anything of any value and basically left a bunch of sorted through junk.

Apparently this lady had some master plan to leave my grandpa with nothing even though she made no money what so ever and has been taken care of by my grandpa since the 70's. Now her son, who my grandpa raised, put food on his table, clothes on his back, etc. won't even give my grandpa one cent or let him live in his own house?

We can't figure out how the titles for the house and cars got transferred over to the asshat but we speculating that it was when my grandpa had a stroke two years ago and was in the hospital for a while.

The whole situation blows and it looks like there is noting we can do. Does anyone know any of the laws in Michigan pertaining to your spouses death or know of any lawyers that practice in this area?


UPDATE #1

His house was signed over to his wife back in 1980? Somehow she had the title transferred from my gramps name to her sons who was like 18 at the time. The cars were transferred over when my grandpa had his stroke two years ago.

We found did find a bank account that was jointly held by gramps, his wife and her son. There was 22k in it about two weeks ago but the son withdrew about 12k for funeral/ misc expenses. The son has transferred over my grampas one van to him in exchange for my grandpa leaving the house sooner so the son can sell it for about 80k. The son was an idiot cause he didn't clear the remaining 8k out of the jointly held bank account so as soon as the title was signed over my dad and grandpa drove to the bank and withdrew the reaminder of the money.

Today the son called asking for the keys to his house so he could show it at an open house and asked what day he will be movd out completely? Grandp drove in from Michigan and stayed here in Cleveland for two nights but was miserable. He wants to be in his house near his friends, not 140 miles away.

The really bad thing is that he is kinda starting to loose it so he definitely can't live on his own, even if he had any money and he can't live in an assisted living house because it is way to expensive and the government isn't helping out all in a case like this.

It was pretty sad because he took a walk this morning and got lost in a rainstorm. My dad had to drive out and find him all soaking wet, etc..... He was all confused and upset that he didn't quite remember how to get back, and decided he was going to drive back to Michigan to his house.

We are currently trying to get an injunction on the sale of his house so we can at least dely that to see if anything can be done to help him out. The sad part is that he trusted his wife so much that it i all kinda his own fault for not keeping an eye out on things. Now it is looking like he is completely screwed and soon to be homeless.
 

EvilYoda

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I'm not of any help here, but just thought I'd say that I"m sorry to hear that...my ex's grandmother is in a sticky situation too with her finances and kids...here's some good vibes from a fellow Michigander.
 

GasX

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Sounds like fraud to me. If your grandfather has no recollection of passing over the title, there is a chance that he didn't - i.e. something was forged. You need a lawyer ASAP!
 

ThaGrandCow

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If I were him I'd head to the grandmothers grave and drop a warm and steamy deuce right on the headstone. Then wipe my ass with the grass growing over the rest of the grave.

What a biatch
 

jjones

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If I were grandpa I'd put a bullet in the kid's head and let the state take care of me in my waning years.
 

NogginBoink

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Sounds like fraud to me. If your grandfather has no recollection of passing over the title, there is a chance that he didn't - i.e. something was forged. You need a lawyer ASAP!

I second that.

Would be nice to see the son in jail and grandpa in his house with his money back at the end of this. (Not likely, I'm afraid, but would be a nice storybook ending.)
 

Ladies Man

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Originally posted by: jjones
If I were grandpa I'd put a bullet in the kid's head and let the state take care of me in my waning years.

i was just thinkin that
 

Thegonagle

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OMG, if it's like your grandfather tells it, that's one of the worst stories I've ever heard.

He needs not just a lawyer, but a lawyer with ballz, and the ears of anyone who will listen to his story.

Good luck.
 

DaveSimmons

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Lawyer and maybe the state attorney general's office. If the grandma and son colluded on this maybe the AG can get him locked up, or at least get his stolen moeny frozen so he can't spend it.

> He needs not just a lawyer, but a lawyer with ballz, and the ears of anyone who will listen to his story.
Good point, the local "crusading newsghouls," print and video, might do something positive for a change.
 

Thegonagle

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
> He needs not just a lawyer, but a lawyer with ballz, and the ears of anyone who will listen to his story.
Good point, the local "crusading newsghouls," print and video, might do something positive for a change.

Precisely what I'm talking about.

I can't even imagine how awful it would be to have my paid-for house and car "stolen" from me like that. I can tell you, I would not let it stand.
 

TubStain

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What goes around comes around..

If that story is as it is, that son has some bad karma coming his way. That is major disrespect for someone who put the food on the table and clothes on your back. It sickens me that such people exist.

 

Busie23

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Granps is 86 and by everyone's best guess he is worth at least 100k between the house and his two cars that they had. This doesn't include whatever liquid money he had in his accounts etc. Currently all he has is a stash of gold coins he had hidden away in his house and those are worth about $900.

We talked to one lawyer and he wants $7500 consultation fee and 30% of whatever is collected. And he said, because of Michigan laws, most likely nothing would be collected. Apparently if a husband dies then the wife is entitled to what ever is left, but if the wife dies the husband gets nothing?
 

ohtwell

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That is horrible!! :(

I agree with everyone else who has suggested that he get a lawyer. That is probably the best advice.

I really hope that it works out in the end. Keep us updated!


: ) Amanda
 

ohtwell

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Originally posted by: Busie23

And he said, because of Michigan laws, most likely nothing would be collected. Apparently if a husband dies then the wife is entitled to what ever is left, but if the wife dies the husband gets nothing?
That really sucks!! :(


: ( Amanda
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: Busie23
We talked to one lawyer and he wants $7500 consultation fee and 30% of whatever is collected. And he said, because of Michigan laws, most likely nothing would be collected. Apparently if a husband dies then the wife is entitled to what ever is left, but if the wife dies the husband gets nothing?
Then try the State AG for the criminal/fraud angle regarding the transfers of money and property to the son.

If nothing else it might scare the son into giving some of it back to settle, which is better than paying a lawyer who says you have no chance.
 

rubenswm

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I bet the lost money/goods isn't what the saddest part of this story is
it's the fact that the family he had throughout his life were just a bunch of lowlife scammers.
His stepkid is a scammer
His supposed wife is a scammer
How do you think he feels about having lived his life like that? That's terrible!