I realize that we won't know the gory details until Anand gets a 7300 in his paws to run throught the test, but I just want to speculate. Right now I have an XFX 6600 256mb that is 128bit, and I have the core running at 400mhz. The memory is running at 510...
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Upcoming 7300 vs. my current 6600....
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Depends what kinda stuff you do with your compute if you play BF2 or use photoshop then yes more RAM would help but would not be needed. If you don't do either of those two things then wait. Also I haven't seen any direct comparisons between 9600 and 7300 but I'm am think that the 7300 would win pretty easily in most tests
Michael
Elite member
The 7300GS is between the 6600 and the 7800 in numbering, but I doubt that is the case in performance. There really have not been any reviews that put it in context with other cards. Here's one using the 128 meg models, but they don't compare against any other card:
3D Avenue review
I bought one last week because is was very inexpensive ($140 Singapore for a MSI 256 meg version or about $86US including GST). I'm waiting until the G71 comes out so I can compare to the new ATi cards, but I need a new PCIe card now as I'm assembling a system.
Based on the 3D avenue review, it looks like it will be OK for 17" LCD resolutions as long as you do not turn on any eye candy. That's about all you can expect from a lower end card.
Michael
3D Avenue review
I bought one last week because is was very inexpensive ($140 Singapore for a MSI 256 meg version or about $86US including GST). I'm waiting until the G71 comes out so I can compare to the new ATi cards, but I need a new PCIe card now as I'm assembling a system.
Based on the 3D avenue review, it looks like it will be OK for 17" LCD resolutions as long as you do not turn on any eye candy. That's about all you can expect from a lower end card.
Michael
You really don't have a clue about how the numbering system works. 🙂
First number is generation - second is rating amongst that generation. Ideally you'd expect thus at the very least 7300>6200, 7600>6600 and 7800>6800 - sometimes the newer generation of a lower group can beat the previous generations higher group (for example when 6600GT beat 5950Ultra), but the lowest card of a new generation will never-ever beat the highest of the previous.
Against a 9600XT, a 7300GS would probably lose, I would expect, but against a 9600pro it may be roughly the same or even slightly beat it, depending on the game of course. I think at lower resolutions where memory bandwidth becomes less of an issue, it may be more worthwhile to have the 7300GS because future games will probably only ever be able to run at lower resolutions anyway on both cards.
I could see this for the 7600, but it's unimaginable for the 7300. The 7300 is a low-end card designed to supercede the 6100 and 6200 series (and their competitors). With 4 pipes, there's little chance that it's going to out-perform the 8 pipe 6600, and there's no way it's going to out-perform a 16-pipe 6800.
Mavrick007
Diamond Member
Well, according to BENCHES on this page, with a A64 4000+, 1gig of ram and the 7300, it's pulling around 2200 3dmarks for 2005.. so you can say this is pretty craptacular, but not surprising since it's such a cheap card.
The new 7300 will beat the 6200. It will not beat the current 6600 or 6600GT.
There is a new 7600 Series coming in a couple of months. These will beat the current 6600 Series, and the current ATI X1600 Series. But ATI is also reading a new X1700 Series...This will be the real competition for the 7600 Series
...and so on...and so on...
There is a new 7600 Series coming in a couple of months. These will beat the current 6600 Series, and the current ATI X1600 Series. But ATI is also reading a new X1700 Series...This will be the real competition for the 7600 Series
...and so on...and so on...
Michael
Elite member
Mavrick007,
It is a budget card meant to be one small step above on board video, so the results are about what I expected. In terms of framerates in games, it does well enough at 1280 x 1024 that I could live a month or two with it until it's more clear what the "best" of the new cards is.
The only "shooter" game I play is Doom 3 and I only play in single player mode. I'm sure it'll handle Magic Online and Civ IV which are the two games I spend the majority of my gaming time on. I have the 256M version, so it should be a little better.
It was the least expensive newer generation card available when I was picking up parts last week. For sure it'll be very underpowered compared to the rest of my new computer (X2 4400+ and 2 Gigs of RAM as examples), but it'll do.
When I get my "real" card, I'll either keep it as a back up or try and sell it for $100 Sing or so.
Michael
It is a budget card meant to be one small step above on board video, so the results are about what I expected. In terms of framerates in games, it does well enough at 1280 x 1024 that I could live a month or two with it until it's more clear what the "best" of the new cards is.
The only "shooter" game I play is Doom 3 and I only play in single player mode. I'm sure it'll handle Magic Online and Civ IV which are the two games I spend the majority of my gaming time on. I have the 256M version, so it should be a little better.
It was the least expensive newer generation card available when I was picking up parts last week. For sure it'll be very underpowered compared to the rest of my new computer (X2 4400+ and 2 Gigs of RAM as examples), but it'll do.
When I get my "real" card, I'll either keep it as a back up or try and sell it for $100 Sing or so.
Michael
If this is the case, then I was clearly wrong in part above, and I need to recant my previous position. It looks like the "little chance that it's going to out-perform the 8 pipe 6600" doesn't turn out the way I thought it would.
But consider that the 6600 GT and 6600 are often similarly priced (e.g. $130 vs $100), and the 6600 GT typically performs much better (say around 3500 3DMark05), and can also SLI nicely sometimes -- in this case, you should get a 6600 GT.
I do recant my earlier position. But if a 6600 and 7300 GS both cost around $100, and perform around the same, then there's no debate and no real story in the end -- you'd get a 7300 GS instead of the 6600 for the additional features. If the 7300 GS costs less, then that is good news, for the low end.
But the 6600 GT still looks like a better performer, as would the higher-end 6800 series. Of course those too are slated for replacement in the 7 series, but not by the 7300 GS.
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