Untapped potential?

[MiranoPoncho]

I am wondering: How can I tell if my winchester is anywheres close to maxing out? 2.5Ghz, 10x multi, 1.4v cpu voltage, and a 4x htt. ram is running at 2.5-3-3-6-7 Seems pretty zippy, but Is there anyway i can speed it up some more without the thing roasting? It currentley idles around 43c and load about 55 celcius, with stock cooler, tim is... unaccounted for. Short of slapping on some vapochill apperatus or something, Would some AS5 do the trick, and if so, what would be any indicator? thanks.

 

[zakee00]

55 is kind of high..what mobo are you using?
the MSI K8N Neo2 has an option in the BIOS to speed up the CPU fan if it goes above a selected setting to keep it cool. if you go ANY higher with your HTT, lower the multi to 3x to keep stable. 250HTT is the max for 4x. AS5 is good stuff but ive heard the stock TIM is good also. FYI, I idle at around 35C and load at 53C. Stock HSF and AS5, 1.5vcore.
Nick

 

[MiranoPoncho]

The mobo I am using is the MSI K8N NEO2, With the core center alternating between Cn'C and the max fan, and There is almost no difference in Temp for me. Odd, as I've 3 case fans: one pci 25.8 cffm blower, an 120mm antec, and an 80mm for the front intake. Tried to put a side 80mm on but it wouldnt hold. Odly enough I do not think the heatsink has any Tim. I know that may sound crazy,But I seriously do not think monarch put any tim on. Anywho, Any ideas on how to o/c further? B.T.W. the ram is rated for ddr 500, 2t/1t I am not sure.

 

[Gamingphreek]

They have to have TIM or otherwise the CPU would have fried due to lack of conduction of heat. It would have touched the core yes but not conducted the heat.

Well step one is to get a nice cooler or even go water cooling. I would highly recommend the XP-120 HS with a nice 120mm fan.

Additionally keep increasing your FSB, and when you have trouble try giving it a bit more juice or running your ram at a divider.

-Kevin

 

[MiranoPoncho]

Can do. After this post or so I'll reboot and see what it can do. Ram is set at 3/4, but should I lower that and loosen the memory or tighten it up and scale back on the clock? Perhaps I shall wait 'till I can get an xp120 and some as5..

 

[Avalon]

The XP-120 is probably overkill, but that thing will sure look badass hanging off your CPU 😛
It's like having a monster in your case. I want one. Heh.

 

[fireontheway]

Originally posted by: Avalon
The XP-120 is probably overkill, but that thing will sure look badass hanging off your CPU 😛
It's like having a monster in your case. I want one. Heh.

I'm looking at it now 😎 lol

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
They have to have TIM or otherwise the CPU would have fried due to lack of conduction of heat. It would have touched the core yes but not conducted the heat.

Well step one is to get a nice cooler or even go water cooling. I would highly recommend the XP-120 HS with a nice 120mm fan.

Additionally keep increasing your FSB, and when you have trouble try giving it a bit more juice or running your ram at a divider.

-Kevin

That's not entirely true. It would still conduct heat and still cool the processor, but wouldn't be as effective as with some sort of TIM.
TIM is used to fill air gaps since it's a better conductor of heat than air, but not as good as metal to metal contact. If you put too much TIM, or didn't apply it correctly, that could be why it's running warm for a Winchester.

 

[fixxxer0]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
They have to have TIM or otherwise the CPU would have fried due to lack of conduction of heat. It would have touched the core yes but not conducted the heat.

Well step one is to get a nice cooler or even go water cooling. I would highly recommend the XP-120 HS with a nice 120mm fan.

Additionally keep increasing your FSB, and when you have trouble try giving it a bit more juice or running your ram at a divider.

-Kevin

That's not entirely true. It would still conduct heat and still cool the processor, but wouldn't be as effective as with some sort of TIM.
TIM is used to fill air gaps since it's a better conductor of heat than air, but not as good as metal to metal contact. If you put too much TIM, or didn't apply it correctly, that could be why it's running warm for a Winchester.

Yep he is correct. In theory straight metal on metal is the best and you can't beat it , EVER.

The problem with that is to machine something down perfectly enough to tolerances of like .0001inches for both the heatsink AND the processor/ihs (metal plate on athlon64s) is grossly expensive and not worthwhile for the gains. Therefore like he said above, thermal paste is used to fill the little gaps, which is why its better to put less than more (assuming you have fairly good machines products).


And like he said, metal > thermal paste > air.... that is why arctic silver 5 is one of the best, its actually made with metal. just be careful because its conductive under SOME rare circumstances