Unrest spreads in Iran

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raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
70 million people in Iran. I don't see millions protesting anything. More protested then than now. The population is greater now than then.

The desire for freedom and liberty is still there, however the mullahs have really started using some horrendous techniques. They arrest students and beat them terribly and in some cases, students are killed. There is a state of fear in which the Iranians live in. People still protest but many are simply scared to voice their opposition.

Iran Vajahan is a great website.
 

Red Dawn

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Unfortunately for the Iranians they are under the grasp of Religious Fund A Mental Cases. The Religious Right of America is jealous.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Makes ya feel good doesnt it?
We may be having a hard go in Iraq, but the spreading freedom is a good thing to see.
Are you somehow implying that what's going on in Iran is a direct result of invading Iraq?

If so:

:cookie:

Yeah nice cookie :roll:.

How do you know that Iraq hasn't had some effect in the region that now people want democracy? If you read some of the media, even Arab media, you will find that an increasing number of people in the middle east want democracy. That is related to Iraq.
Damn...you get any further up Bush's ass and you'll be able to see out of his mouth.

Normally your arguments have no basis, but you've actually moved on to personal insults.
Well done! We certainly cant argue with that level of intelligence! :Q
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Makes ya feel good doesnt it?
We may be having a hard go in Iraq, but the spreading freedom is a good thing to see.
Are you somehow implying that what's going on in Iran is a direct result of invading Iraq?

If so:

:cookie:

Yeah nice cookie :roll:.

How do you know that Iraq hasn't had some effect in the region that now people want democracy? If you read some of the media, even Arab media, you will find that an increasing number of people in the middle east want democracy. That is related to Iraq.
Damn...you get any further up Bush's ass and you'll be able to see out of his mouth.

Normally your arguments have no basis, but you've actually moved on to personal insults.
Well done! We certainly cant argue with that level of intelligence! :Q
Especially when you employ the same tactics:roll:
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Makes ya feel good doesnt it?
We may be having a hard go in Iraq, but the spreading freedom is a good thing to see.
Are you somehow implying that what's going on in Iran is a direct result of invading Iraq?

If so:

:cookie:

Yeah nice cookie :roll:.

How do you know that Iraq hasn't had some effect in the region that now people want democracy? If you read some of the media, even Arab media, you will find that an increasing number of people in the middle east want democracy. That is related to Iraq.
Damn...you get any further up Bush's ass and you'll be able to see out of his mouth.

Normally your arguments have no basis, but you've actually moved on to personal insults.
Well done! We certainly cant argue with that level of intelligence! :Q
Especially when you employ the same tactics:roll:

Funny, I see no personal attacks in my post? perhaps your reading comprehension is fialing you at this time of night?
 

raildogg

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Damn...you get any further up Bush's ass and you'll be able to see out of his mouth.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.:laugh:

At least add something to discussion, or are you way above us lowly people that you can get away with these POS posts? :laugh:
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Damn...you get any further up Bush's ass and you'll be able to see out of his mouth.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.:laugh:

At least add something to discussion, or are you way above us lowly people that you can get away with these POS posts? :laugh:
You first. As I said, you posted complete and utter BS that McClellan would have been proud of.
 

Jhhnn

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The only thing the Iraqi invasion has shown the Arab world is that the current Admin is utterly ruthless, and will employ any strategy to achieve their ends. None of which has diddly-squat to do with democracy.

If anything, the presence of American troops on her borders and the strong rhetoric from the Admin give the Iranian mullahs and patriots a reason to crackdown on internal dissent by conflating it with a foreign threat, and by fanning the flames of knee-jerk patriotism, much as the Bush Admin has done in the US.

The sad part of all of this is that Iran is actually a democracy, of limited scope, to be sure, but not as limited as the scope of democracy in Israel, for example. The voices of reform in both countries are only stifled by American support for our favored factions, whether those are in power, as in israel, or out of power, as in Iran.

When it comes to Democracy, perhaps the most disturbing feature of the current rightwing lexicon is the absence of any reference to concepts such as separation of powers within government, respect and protection of minority rights and perspectives, and the whole idea of self-determination of peoples is obviously a big no-no, a totally taboo subject...

Nor are their efforts limited to overseas venues, as the proposed Constitutional Restoration Act and the current attack on US Senate rules and the independence of the judiciary should illustrate. Their version of "Freedom" is just a well disguised version of tyranny.
 

conjur

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P.S. Thanks for subscribing me to various newsletters, raildogg. Real grown up of you.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Damn...you get any further up Bush's ass and you'll be able to see out of his mouth.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.:laugh:

At least add something to discussion, or are you way above us lowly people that you can get away with these POS posts? :laugh:
You first. As I said, you posted complete and utter BS that McClellan would have been proud of.

Re-read my post and then refute any points that I made.

P.S. Thanks for subscribing me to various newsletters, raildogg. Real grown up of you.

My pleasure :confused::laugh:
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Damn...you get any further up Bush's ass and you'll be able to see out of his mouth.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.:laugh:

At least add something to discussion, or are you way above us lowly people that you can get away with these POS posts? :laugh:
You first. As I said, you posted complete and utter BS that McClellan would have been proud of.

Re-read my post and then refute any points that I made.

P.S. Thanks for subscribing me to various newsletters, raildogg. Real grown up of you.

My pleasure :confused::laugh:

Sounds like spamming to me.

 

Infohawk

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Give these countries all the freedom they want, they will still deeply oppose US-Israel policy and US presence in muslim lands.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: BBond
Sounds like spamming to me.

Exactly what have I spammed?

Seems to me you're the one whose spamming with your various no-name articles you post that basically state the opinion of one guy. Then you present that as a fact.

 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Damn...you get any further up Bush's ass and you'll be able to see out of his mouth.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.:laugh:

At least add something to discussion, or are you way above us lowly people that you can get away with these POS posts? :laugh:

What do you think? Think he should re-register under a new name so people don't associate him with his previous posts? ;)
 

MegaWorks

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Give these countries all the freedom they want, they will still deeply oppose US-Israel policy and US presence in muslim lands.

That's very true.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Gaard
My memory may be failing me, but didn't Texmaster get banned for doing something like this?

WTF? I didn't send any "spam" to Conjur. :confused:

But yeah, go ahead and ban me because you don't agree with me.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: raildogg
Damn...you get any further up Bush's ass and you'll be able to see out of his mouth.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.:laugh:

At least add something to discussion, or are you way above us lowly people that you can get away with these POS posts? :laugh:

What do you think? Think he should re-register under a new name so people don't associate him with his previous posts? ;)

Hey, some of us learn and move on. Guess some veterans of this forum still haven't learned.

(oh well)
Let me ask you something railldogg, does "learn and move on" equal insinuating that someone who states the truth is a liar? (false rumors and lies)

 

raildogg

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: raildogg
Damn...you get any further up Bush's ass and you'll be able to see out of his mouth.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.:laugh:

At least add something to discussion, or are you way above us lowly people that you can get away with these POS posts? :laugh:

What do you think? Think he should re-register under a new name so people don't associate him with his previous posts? ;)

Hey, some of us learn and move on. Guess some veterans of this forum still haven't learned.

(oh well)
Let me ask you something railldogg, does "learn and move on" equal insinuating that someone who states the truth is a liar? (false rumors and lies)

If you want to stick to this thread and talk about the current events, then I'll gladly do it. What truth are you speaking of?

One man's truth is another man's lies. My views on the Mid East differ from many here, does that make me a liar?